[BSDCert] code of ethics

[Mike Jackson]

My only point was: *If* the certification carries with it a code of ethics, 
the issuing body better be willing to back it up with action if it is 
violated, or else it loses all credibility.

If there was a code of ethics and a governing body, you'd basically be 
creating a guild with hefty entrance requirements - not a bad idea, but it 
certainly goes beyond "mere" certification.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pablo Sánchez" <phackwer at gmail.com>
To: "Mike Jackson" <mjackson at barking-dog.net>
Cc: "Evan Leibovitch" <evan at telly.org>; <bsdcert at lists.nycbug.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 14:05
Subject: Re: [BSDCert] code of ethics


So, we are basically thinking about creating a court mechanism? A Ethics
Commitee? And who would oversse their activities?

People, I think this is going too far, we don't need this kind of control.
Is there any ethics for other certifications?

PS: sorry for the wrong order on the replies. Gmail.com
<http://Gmail.com>is messing with my replies, sending it to only one
person... :-/ Bloody
Google :D

On 9/7/05, Mike Jackson <mjackson at barking-dog.net> wrote:
>
> >> Several years ago, one of my staff members was caught plagiarizing a
> >> review. The evidence was plain as day, and he confessed to doing it. He
> >> (and I) happened to be part of a film critics society. After I
> terminated
> >> the staff member, I presented them with the evidence. They did nothing;
> >> they wanted to see a pattern of behavior, and one obvious act of
> >> plagiarism wasn't enough for them. I wound up resigning; I didn't want
> to
> >> be part of a group that didn't hold its members to a high enough
> >> standard.
> >
> >
> > It's not uncommon for enforcement systems to allow lesser penalties for
> a
> > first offense. While I agree that "doing nothing" is unacceptable, zero
> > tolerance on a first offense tends is not usual.
> >
> > Allowing leniency for a single error of judgment does not necessarily
> > render the whole process invalid, providing it's accounted for in the
> > enforcement policy. Not having this set in policy allows for
> inconsistent
> > and unfair outcomes, which present their own problems of acceptability.
>
> But it really depends on the nature of the "crime." In professional
> writing,
> I would consider plagiarism of the magnitude at which this offense
> occurred
> (an entire paragraph appropriated, only slightly modified, and from a
> MAJOR
> source that would've sued my site into oblivion had they caught it instead
> of an ordinary reader) to be worthy of being stripped of any professional
> memberships or certifications. In system administration, I'd consider it
> akin to that backdoor example I gave. I wouldn't consider than an error in
> judgment - one time or many, that's conduct unbecoming a professional, and
> any body that recognizes professionals shouldn't condone it, because if
> anyone outside their circle knew they allowed it, their credibility would
> go
> right out the window.
>
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