Business models Re: [BSDCert] code of ethics
christiaan.theron at virgin.net
Thu Sep 8 03:38:36 EDT 2005
Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> christiaan wrote:
>> Many lessons can be drawn from the LPI but is developing the business
>> plan of BSD certifcation along similar lines as the LPI really
>> feasible for the BSD?
> Very good question, and I agree that this kind of thing needs a higher
> priority than codes of ethics. In fact, I think that the outline in
> the roadmap that indicates that the business plan be done in parallel
> with the certification plan is a mistake. IMO at least some of the biz
> plan needs to be done before the cert plan is started because (like it
> or not) the business models chosen *will* affect the cert plan.
> FWIW, we didn't know when we started LPI that it would have any
> commercial demand. It was started on mutual agreement that something
> was a Really Good Idea and could at leasts sustain itself IFF there
> was significant community (read: volunteer or cheaper than market
> rates) support.
> There was also a financial incentive for many of the early sponsors
> that wasn't sheer philanthropy. I recall that just about every Unix
> vendor did their own expensive and money-losing exams. To this day
> there is no Unix certification but there is one for Solaris, one for
> AIX, one for HP-UX, one for OpenServer, etc. Their individual numbers
> have never themselves justified the cost but they exist because:
> 1) They help to sell training (which *is* a big moneymaker)
> 2) They add credibility and stability to the products
> It is notable that HP and IBM, two big Unix players, decided to join
> SuSE and Caldera in supporting LPI when making their corporate
> commitments to Linux in the late 90s (rather than making their own
> Linux certifications). It was FAR cheaper for them to join the LPI
> community than to each repeat the Unix mistake in rolling their own
> certs (though they could have easily done that). Now both HP and IBM
> (as well as many others) do well with their own LPI-targeted training
> initiatives. Having said that, not everyone in Linux space believes in
> the community model (ie., Red Hat).
> Obviously at least some of the LPI model can't apply to the BSD
> effort. It would be nice if companies like Apple or others who make
> money from use of BSD could see the corporate advantage of supporting
> this cert effort for the same reasons that IBM and HP did with LPI.
> IMO, if Apple wants to legitimately get into server space or crack the
> business market, it too will need a training/certification strategy.
> - Evan
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Given Evans experience, how many corporate sponsors are out there for
BSD certification? Maybe a fundamental question to the business model
is rather, what is a 'sponsor' ? Is a sponsor a corporate or the student
at college or the sysadmin or the novice at home?
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