[nycbug-talk] Fwd: weird verizon problem

George Georgalis george
Fri Dec 17 14:50:25 EST 2004


On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:47:47PM -0500, Bjorn Nelson wrote:
>All,
>
>I remember we had a discussion about what local isp's people could 
>recommend and I suggested acedsl.  I am having a problem now, although 
>it's not with them.  It's with anyone on verizon dsl or earthlink dsl's 
>network connecting to my webserver at home which is on acedsl.  The 
>weird thing is, it works through a proxy (using any of the ones that 
>work at multiproxy.org).  It also works fine from other places.  The 
>other weird thing is sometimes it loads a partial page and sometimes it 
>doesn't.  We tried lowering the default MTU setting on the person that 
>was trying to connect from verizon to a setting that wouldn't fragment, 
>but no go.
>
>The benchmark I have been using is my World of Warcraft guild page but 
>the image isn't able to load for him:
> http://www.proteanorder.org
>
>I am curious to see if this problem is limited to verizon and 
>earthlink.  I am using 384k up dsl and 13ms average seek time 
>harddrive.  The image is about 200k.

no problems from pilosoft network, you can probably save a lot of
bandwidth on that picture, but for testing there shouldn't be a problem
that I know of.

$ curl -I http://www.proteanorder.org/img/death.png
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:19:12 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.50 (FreeBSD) mod_perl/1.99_14 Perl/v5.8.4 DAV/2 PHP/4.3.9
Last-Modified: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 23:16:27 GMT
ETag: "5c897-314ab-53fc48c0"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 201899
MS-Author-Via: DAV
Content-Type: image/png

have you tried serving from a another lightweight server like boa
(me not sure if it builds on BSD)

don't know what you can do about M$ clients, but use mtr vs traceroute
whenever possible it's ported to bsd.  http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/

some hops will just drop direct icmp packets, but route them and
everything else fine, traceroute cannot get over that. mtr will show you
the rest of the route.

(disregard these Sent numbers that's a local config)
                                                  Packets               Pings
 Host                                           Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. ???
 2. 216.66.12.241                                0.0%    15    9.8  10.8   8.7  23.3   3.6
 3. 66.250.55.54                                 0.0%    14    9.8  10.4   9.8  13.4   0.9
 4. 66.230.128.230                               0.0%    13   10.0  11.7   9.0  32.9   6.4
 5. so-5-2-0.cr1.lga1.us.above.net               0.0%    12   11.3  14.4  10.2  30.3   7.4
 6. pos0-0.er1a.lga1.us.above.net                9.1%    11   10.3  10.3   9.5  11.0   0.5
 7. 64.125.180.78.acecape.com                    0.0%     9   10.9  10.8   9.6  11.4   0.6
 8. r1-ge1.acecape.com                           0.0%     7   16.8  12.2  10.8  16.8   2.1
 9. mail.belovedarctos.com           


There is something funny going on at hop 8 and 9 from dsl.net...
                                             Packets               Pings
 Host                                           Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. gw.cyberhenge.net                            0.0%    59    1.2   1.2   1.1   1.9   0.1
 2. dslam.cyberhenge.net                         0.0%    59    4.1  14.5   4.0 232.0  39.1
 3. ar02-chi02-h4-0.dsl.net                      0.0%    59   69.6  69.8  69.3  71.8   0.4
 4. 172.16.4.42                                  0.0%    59   70.2  70.3  69.4  72.0   0.4
 5. cr01-nyc02-g0-2-0-100.dsl.net                0.0%    59   69.9  70.1  69.5  71.6   0.5
 6. ge-5-1-121.ipcolo1.NewYork1.Level3.net       0.0%    58   70.0  70.0  69.4  71.9   0.5
 7. ae-1-54.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net             0.0%    58   69.8  70.8  69.7  98.5   3.9
 8. ge-0-3-0.bbr2.Washington1.Level3.net         1.7%    58   75.0  76.6  74.6 147.9   9.8
    as-1-0.bbr2.Washington1.Level3.net
 9. so-6-0-0.edge2.Washington1.Level3.net        0.0%    58  113.0  77.3  75.0 132.7   8.9
    so-7-0-0.edge2.Washington1.Level3.net
10. abovenet-level3-oc48.Washington1.Level3.net  0.0%    58   75.4  76.8  75.1 101.7   4.3
11. so-4-0-0.mpr2.iad2.us.above.net              0.0%    58   81.2  77.5  76.6  81.3   1.2
12. so-4-0-0.mpr1.iad1.us.above.net              0.0%    58   77.5  79.0  76.6 125.1   7.1
13. so-2-0-0.cr1.lga1.us.above.net               0.0%    58   80.8  82.3  80.8  94.3   2.9
14. 64.125.27.142.available.above.net            0.0%    58   81.6  82.9  80.8 131.3   6.9
15. pos0-0.er1a.lga1.us.above.net                0.0%    58   80.3  80.5  79.6  82.8   0.7
16. 64.125.180.78.acecape.com                    0.0%    58   80.4  80.8  80.1  91.4   1.5
17. r1-ge1.acecape.com                           0.0%    58   81.4  85.2  80.4 212.3  17.5
18. mail.belovedarctos.com                       0.0%    58  107.1 107.1 105.5 111.0   1.1

...who knows.

// George


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