[nycbug-talk] Re: talk Digest, Vol 2, Issue 17

[Charles Sprickman]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, G. Rosamond wrote:

> we had talked about this. . .but that was before we past the 50
> subscriber mark.
>
> other people have feelings about this?

Yes, I'd like to see an announcement-only list.

Charles

> i agree it time for announce only list. . .
>
> g
>
> ->-----Original Message-----
> ->From: talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org
> ->[mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org] On Behalf Of Danny G
> ->Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:55 AM
> ->To: talk at lists.nycbug.org
> ->Subject: [nycbug-talk] Re: talk Digest, Vol 2, Issue 17
> ->
> ->
> ->Hi, I was wondering if there is an announcement only version
> ->of this email list. while I may be interested in other users
> ->messages, right now I'd like to only receive important
> ->announcements about NYCBUG.
> ->
> ->
> ->Thanks in advance
> ->
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> ->> Today's Topics:
> ->>
> ->>    1. Re: RE: bof (Marc Spitzer)
> ->>    2. Re: LinuxTag/Knoppix people coming... (Marc Spitzer)
> ->>    3. RE: [nylug-announce] NYC *BSD User Group Launch:
> ->>       http://www.NYCBUG.org/ (Hans Zaunere)
> ->>    4. RE: FW: Oracle Meeting Results (Hans Zaunere)
> ->>    5. RE: LinuxTag/Knoppix people coming... (Hans Zaunere)
> ->>    6. RE: flier - how many are you printing? (G. Rosamond)
> ->>    7. RE: LinuxTag/Knoppix people coming... (G. Rosamond)
> ->>    8. RE: FW: Oracle Meeting Results (G. Rosamond)
> ->>    9. computer book works on reade street (G. Rosamond)
> ->>   10. announcement. . . (G. Rosamond)
> ->>   11. fbsd 5.2 (G. Rosamond)
> ->>   12. a question. . . (G. Rosamond)
> ->>
> ->>
> ->>
> ->----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 1
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:02:27 -0500
> ->> From: Marc Spitzer <mspitze1 at optonline.net>
> ->> Subject: Re: [nycbug-talk] RE: bof
> ->> To: talk at lists.nycbug.org
> ->> Message-ID: <20040116150227.62917d43.mspitze1 at optonline.net>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> ->>
> ->> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:05:27 -0500
> ->> "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net> wrote:
> ->>
> ->> > ->Car pooling to head up to BSDCan?  If people want to take the
> ->> train,
> ->> > ->it's pretty scenery, and you can have a hack-a-thon on the way
> ->> > ->up/back.  But the drive is good too.  I did that last August.
> ->> Mostly
> ->> > ->Interstate type roads, but a side trip through Lake Placid is
> ->> > ->refreshing.
> ->> >
> ->> > at least a group discount. . .with amtrak. . .
> ->>
> ->> Amtrak has outlets in their seats ...
> ->>
> ->> marc
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 2
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:03:29 -0500
> ->> From: Marc Spitzer <mspitze1 at optonline.net>
> ->> Subject: Re: [nycbug-talk] LinuxTag/Knoppix people coming...
> ->> To: talk at lists.nycbug.org
> ->> Message-ID: <20040116150329.04a683b3.mspitze1 at optonline.net>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> ->>
> ->> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:31:32 -0500 (EST)
> ->> Wes Sonnenreich <wes at sagesecure.com> wrote:
> ->>
> ->> > LinuxTag people (including possibly Mr. Knopper of Knoppix fame)
> ->> will
> ->> > be coming to SageSecure offices on Monday the 19th at 6pmish.
> ->> They
> ->> > want to talk about community relations w/NYCBug... Anybody
> ->> besides
> ->> > George in on this?
> ->>
> ->> I think I can make it.
> ->>
> ->> marc
> ->>
> ->> >
> ->> > > Re,
> ->> > >
> ->> > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 07:23:37PM -0500, Wes Sonnenreich
> ->> wrote:
> ->> > >> Nils,
> ->> > >>
> ->> > >> Do you mean monday the 19th or monday the 26th? Either
> ->> afternoon
> ->> > >world> work, but the later on the 19th the better (I'm returning
> ->> from
> ->> > >a skiing> trip monday) perhaps around 5 or 6pm? The 26th is wide
> ->> > >open.
> ->> > >
> ->> > > We fly to NYC tomorrow, thus I meant the 19th. Later is no
> ->> problem
> ->> > > at all. We stay at the Helmsley, Park Lane. Can you give me
> ->> > > directions?
> ->> > >
> ->> > > Regards,
> ->> > >
> ->> > > Nils Magnus
> ->> > > Program-Chair LinuxTag 2004 Free Conference Program
> ->> > >
> ->> > > LinuxTag 2004: Where .com meets .org - magnus at linuxtag.org
> ->> > >
> ->> > _______________________________________________
> ->> > talk mailing list
> ->> > talk at lists.nycbug.org
> ->http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 3
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:13:19 -0800
> ->> From: "Hans Zaunere" <hans at nyphp.com>
> ->> Subject: [nycbug-talk] RE: [nylug-announce] NYC *BSD User Group
> ->> 	Launch:	http://www.NYCBUG.org/
> ->> To: <jbacalle at nylug.org>
> ->> Cc: General discussion <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
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> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> ->>
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> Thanks John.
> ->>
> ->> H
> ->>
> ->> > -----Original Message-----
> ->> > From: nylug-announce-bounces at mail.nylug.org
> ->> > [mailto:nylug-announce-bounces at mail.nylug.org] On Behalf Of
> ->> > John Bajana-Bacalle
> ->> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 4:13 PM
> ->> > To: New York Linux Users Group Announce List
> ->> > Subject: [nylug-announce] NYC *BSD User Group Launch:
> ->> > http://www.NYCBUG.org/
> ->> >
> ->> > ----- Forwarded message from Hans Zaunere <hans at nyphp.com> -----
> ->> >
> ->> > From: "Hans Zaunere" <hans at nyphp.com>
> ->> > Subject: NYC *BSD User Group Launch: http://www.NYCBUG.org/
> ->> >
> ->> > We have founded a new *BSD User Group in New York City, the New
> ->> York
> ->> > City BSD Users Group (<http://www.NYCBUG.org/>, pronounced
> ->> > "nice-bug").
> ->> > It is our goal to make this B.U.G. a longtime success, and a
> ->> permanent
> ->> > bright fixture in the skyline of New York City Metro's I.T.
> ->> technical
> ->> > communities.
> ->> >
> ->> > There are two goals for this new user group.
> ->> >
> ->> > First, to provide a forum for the many BSD users in New York City
> ->> to
> ->> > discuss and debate topics of interest to the BSD community.
> ->> >
> ->> > Second, to provide a bridge to users interested in learning more
> ->> about
> ->> > or expanding their knowledge of the BSD family.
> ->> >
> ->> > -  Our kick-off event will be a free "birds-of-a-feather" session
> ->> at
> ->> >    LinuxWorld Conference & Expo, at the Jacob Javits Center
> ->> > on Thursday,
> ->> >    January 22nd, at 5:45pm, Room 1E15. We will have a presence at
> ->> >    various tables at the expo, including those of BSDMall and New
> ->> York
> ->> >    PHP.
> ->> >
> ->> > -  Our first monthly meeting will present on, "Secure by Default:
> ->> >    Learning from OpenBSD," will be held on Wednesday, February
> ->> 4th at
> ->> >    7:00pm in the offices of: SageSecure, 116 West 23rd Street and
> ->> 6th
> ->> >    Avenue, on the fifth floor.
> ->> >
> ->> >     Presented by Wes Sonnenreich, author of "Building Linux
> ->> > and OpenBSD
> ->> >     Firewalls" and "Network Security Illustrated." This talk will
> ->> deal
> ->> >     with crucial security concepts and best practices for today's
> ->> >     computing environments.
> ->> >
> ->> >    Subsequent monthly meetings will take place at 7:00pm on the
> ->> first
> ->> >    Wednesday of the month.
> ->> >
> ->> > Our website is located at <http://www.NYCBUG.org/>.
> ->> >
> ->> > o  NYCBUG will include a joint documentation project with New
> ->> York PHP
> ->> >    (<http://www.NYPHP.org/>) and OpenlySecure.org, focused on
> ->> > providing
> ->> >    original documentation to new and experienced BSD users alike.
> ->> >
> ->> > o  NYCBUG also provides community mailing lists to assist in
> ->> > discussion
> ->> >    and learning about the BSD world. Interested users, please
> ->> join the
> ->> >    mailing list(s) at <http://www.NYCBUG.org/mailinglist.html>.
> ->> >
> ->> > NYCBUG is open to all interested individuals, including, but
> ->> > not limited
> ->> > to, users of FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, DragonFlyBSD,
> ->> > OpenDarwin, Darwin
> ->> > and Mac OSX.
> ->> >
> ->> > Since the origins of the Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD)
> ->> Unix in
> ->> > the 1970's, BSD has been a consistent force among the backroom
> ->> servers
> ->> > of the world, powering internet service providers, hosting firms,
> ->> and
> ->> > web sites such as Yahoo! and 2600.com. NYCBUG works to assist
> ->> current
> ->> > users, those interested in learning more about this fundamental
> ->> > operating system family and various other BSD projects, and to
> ->> > provide a channel for community interaction.
> ->> >
> ->> > We look forward to supporting the BSD community in a variety
> ->> > of ways in
> ->> > the coming months and years. Please join us in making NYCBUG
> ->> > a success.
> ->> > E pluribus unum.
> ->> >
> ->> > We kindly endorse the distribution of this announcement among
> ->> your
> ->> > colleagues, and potential *BSD users. Thank you.
> ->> >
> ->> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> ->> > _______________________________________________
> ->> > nylug-announce mailing list
> ->> > nylug-announce at mail.nylug.org
> ->> > http://www.nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/nylug-announce
> ->> >
> ->> >
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 4
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:46:58 -0800
> ->> From: "Hans Zaunere" <hans at nyphp.com>
> ->> Subject: RE: [nycbug-talk] FW: Oracle Meeting Results
> ->> To: "General discussion" <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
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> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> > > >> i think this is very good news.
> ->> > > >>
> ->> > > >> "not officially supported" but in development is a
> ->big step in
> ->> > > >> the right direction.
> ->> > > >
> ->> > > > This is exciting news - maybe this is a petition topic?
> ->> > > >
> ->> > > > H
> ->> > >
> ->> > > Good idea for BOF and BSDcan petition, but probably won't
> ->> interest
> ->> > > many regular linuxexpo goers.
> ->> >
> ->> > I think this could be very useful, I think many, if not, all of
> ->> its
> ->> > competitors will follow it to freebsd.  If Oracle does it it
> ->> *must* be
> ->> > a good idea after all.
> ->>
> ->> Following up on this...
> ->>
> ->> Just got off the phone with an OTN (Oracle Technical Network)
> ->> organizer for LinuxWorld.  They'll be having an installfest, and
> ->> although focused on Linux, I pinged him about the BSDs.
> ->We've got the
> ->> go ahead if anyone wants to demo or share experiences on installing
> ->> and using Oracle on a BSD  :)
> ->>
> ->> H
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 5
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:53:12 -0800
> ->> From: "Hans Zaunere" <hans at nyphp.com>
> ->> Subject: RE: [nycbug-talk] LinuxTag/Knoppix people coming...
> ->> To: "Marc Spitzer" <mspitze1 at optonline.net>, <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
> -><41EE526EC2D3C74286415780D3BA9F8752AA0E at ehost011-1.exch011.int
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> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:31:32 -0500 (EST)
> ->> > Wes Sonnenreich <wes at sagesecure.com> wrote:
> ->> >
> ->> > > LinuxTag people (including possibly Mr. Knopper of Knoppix
> ->> fame) will
> ->> > > be coming to SageSecure offices on Monday the 19th at 6pmish.
> ->> They
> ->> > > want to talk about community relations w/NYCBug... Anybody
> ->> besides
> ->> > > George in on this?
> ->> >
> ->> > I think I can make it.
> ->>
> ->> I'll plan on attending, too.
> ->>
> ->> H
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 6
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:12:57 -0500
> ->> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> ->> Subject: RE: [nycbug-talk] flier - how many are you printing?
> ->> To: <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
> -><!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAPGTn3jE8jEyddW
> ->Jf/oR4JcKAAAAQAAAAVmFYPU8vyk+RgX1nXQW/oAEAAAAA at sddi.net>
> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> ->>
> ->> that number makes sense jan.  but considering we'll have a presence
> ->> at
> ->> bsdmall & nyphp, plus the bof, i think we should increase slightly.
> ->>
> ->> not that i have any f'g idea. . .
> ->>
> ->> g
> ->>
> ->> ->LinuxWorld is fairly large.  Last year, we (NetBSD) started
> ->> ->out with 150 flyers, which were gone by noon the first day.
> ->> ->Then we printed some more and eventually handed out a total
> ->> ->of about 450 until we ran out again.  Had we had more the
> ->> ->last day, we probably could have given out another 100.
> ->>
> ->> ->So, if you have a booth, I'd say the ballpark is ~500.
> ->>
> ->> ->I now have about 150 of our flyers (see
> ->> ->http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/advocacy/), ->which I'll be happy
> ->> ->to drop off anywhere possible (since we don't have a booth this
> ->> year).
> ->>
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 7
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:14:59 -0500
> ->> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> ->> Subject: RE: [nycbug-talk] LinuxTag/Knoppix people coming...
> ->> To: "'Hans Zaunere'" <hans at nyphp.com>,	"'Marc Spitzer'"
> ->> 	<mspitze1 at optonline.net>, <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
> -><!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAPGTn3jE8jEyddW
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> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> ->>
> ->> guess i should try out knoppix *before* the meeting  . . .
> ->>
> ->> still a bit confused of the concrete goal of this meeting, to be
> ->> honest.
> ->>
> ->> g
> ->>
> ->> ->-----Original Message-----
> ->> ->From: talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org
> ->> ->[mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org] On Behalf Of Hans Zaunere
> ->> ->Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 5:53 PM
> ->> ->To: Marc Spitzer; talk at lists.nycbug.org
> ->> ->Subject: RE: [nycbug-talk] LinuxTag/Knoppix people coming...
> ->> ->
> ->> ->
> ->> ->
> ->> ->> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:31:32 -0500 (EST)
> ->> ->> Wes Sonnenreich <wes at sagesecure.com> wrote:
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->> > LinuxTag people (including possibly Mr. Knopper of Knoppix
> ->> fame)
> ->> ->> > will be coming to SageSecure offices on Monday the 19th
> ->> ->at 6pmish.
> ->> ->> > They want to talk about community relations w/NYCBug...
> ->> Anybody
> ->> ->> > besides George in on this?
> ->> ->>
> ->> ->> I think I can make it.
> ->> ->
> ->> ->I'll plan on attending, too.
> ->> ->
> ->> ->H
> ->> ->
> ->> ->_______________________________________________
> ->> ->talk mailing list
> ->> ->talk at lists.nycbug.org
> ->> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> ->> ->
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 8
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:14:59 -0500
> ->> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> ->> Subject: RE: [nycbug-talk] FW: Oracle Meeting Results
> ->> To: "'Hans Zaunere'" <hans at nyphp.com>,	"'General discussion'"
> ->> 	<talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
> -><!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAPGTn3jE8jEyddW
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> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> ->>
> ->> nice work fence post. . .
> ->>
> ->> i'd be interested also.
> ->>
> ->> g
> ->>
> ->> ->Just got off the phone with an OTN (Oracle Technical Network)
> ->> ->organizer for LinuxWorld.  They'll be having an installfest,
> ->> ->and although focused on Linux, I pinged him about the BSDs.
> ->> ->We've got the go ahead if anyone wants to demo or share
> ->> ->experiences on installing and using Oracle on a BSD  :)
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 9
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:23:07 -0500
> ->> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> ->> Subject: [nycbug-talk] computer book works on reade street
> ->> To: <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
> -><!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAPGTn3jE8jEyddW
> ->Jf/oR4JcKAAAAQAAAA///IR/N2Y0irDB/AItqtXQEAAAAA at sddi.net>
> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> ->>
> ->> for those who don't know this store, it's between broadway and
> ->> church
> ->> street by city hall.
> ->>
> ->> they have an enormous selection of technical books, heavily
> ->> discounted.
> ->> as a side note, they do not seem to be carrying wes' recent
> ->> project,
> ->> network security illustrated.
> ->>
> ->> since 9/11 in particular, they are hurting for business.  i spoke
> ->> to the
> ->> main man there (david) and find that they are no longer open on
> ->> sunday.
> ->> they've lost the critical member of the staff who is technically
> ->> proficient.
> ->>
> ->> first, i want to encourage all to use their store.  cheaper than
> ->> amazon
> ->> and b&n by far.
> ->>
> ->> mention nycbug when you're there.
> ->>
> ->> also, considering they are only selling online through amazon, and
> ->> they
> ->> are solely devoted to tech books, they have a problem.  maybe a
> ->> group of
> ->> www design, dev and sysadmin-types in nycbug could help them out. .
> ->> .
> ->>
> ->> currently, they have an issue keeping their pos database and online
> ->> database synced.  although this is second-hand from david who's
> ->> non-technical, it sounds like whatever firm that is helping them is
> ->> f'g
> ->> them .  . .saying they have to export the data daily to keep it
> ->> synced.
> ->> . .woah.  so 1985.
> ->>
> ->> anyway, they are an important institution in nyc for all technical
> ->> users, particularly us.
> ->>
> ->> they will have a presence at linuxexpo.  stop by, buy some books
> ->> from
> ->> them.  introduce yourself.
> ->>
> ->> how do people feel about possibly assisting them in redesigning
> ->> their
> ->> pos and ecommerce database?
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> maybe a few people would like to volunteer and help them out. . .
> ->> g
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 10
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:26:36 -0500
> ->> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> ->> Subject: [nycbug-talk] announcement. . .
> ->> To: <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
> -><!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAPGTn3jE8jEyddW
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> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> ->>
> ->> i don't mean to keep beating this dead horse, but i'm a bit
> ->> confused by
> ->> the announcements not getting posted on bsdforums, bsdvault, etc.
> ->>
> ->> i know they've been sent, but how come they weren't posted?
> ->>
> ->> also, marc, get your sh*t together.  it takes two minutes to hit
> ->> usenet/deja and attack them.  if you remember, that's where i first
> ->> contacted *you* about getting a bsd user group started in nyc.  i
> ->> think
> ->> a few others are also from there too.
> ->>
> ->> g
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 11
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:36:15 -0500
> ->> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> ->> Subject: [nycbug-talk] fbsd 5.2
> ->> To: <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
> ->>
> -><!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAPGTn3jE8jEyddW
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> ->>
> ->> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> ->>
> ->> some recent experiences. . .
> ->>
> ->> 1.  the install process adds a couple of more questions, including
> ->> whether you want to allow ssh logins.
> ->>
> ->> 2.  seems that everytime you go into sysinstall, a whole set of
> ->> comments
> ->> are added to the rc.conf, which i think is a pain in the ass.  so
> ->> you're
> ->> having a problem using the ports, and decide to use sysinstall's
> ->> packages.  boom, three or so lines of code clogging up your
> ->> rc.conf.
> ->>
> ->> 3.  also, for some reason, when i enable linux compatibility *each*
> ->> time
> ->> during the install process, it bombs out and i need to do it
> ->> manually
> ->> later on.
> ->>
> ->> comments?  common experiences?
> ->>
> ->> g
> ->>
> ->>
> ->> ------------------------------
> ->>
> ->> Message: 12
> ->> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:07:15 -0500
> ->> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> ->> Subject: [nycbug-talk] a question. . .
> ->> To: "'Jeremy Sohn'" <jeremy at wasabisystems.com>
> ->> Cc: talk at lists.nycbug.org
> ->> Message-ID:
> ->>
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> ->>
> ->> glad you can make the bof.  we'd be honored to have wasabi present.
> ->>
> ->> are you going to have a table at linuxexpo?  if so, could you
> ->> donate
> ->> 8.5" x 11" of table space for our fliers?  it would be appreciated.
> ->>
> ->> also, is there a possibility of wasabi doing a meeting for nycbug
> ->> on
> ->> netbsd & embedded systems?
> ->>
> ->> thanks again for your followup.
> ->>
> ->> g
> ->>
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