I don't want to just rebroadcast postings from Daemon News, but this article is particularly relevant. . . http://www.acmqueue.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=170 PHK and Robert Watson are two critical FBSD developers. We are considering having a meeting on jails, and the last NYLUG meeting was on UML by Sunny, who's on this list. . . g