[nycbug-talk] Fwd: Adaptec AAC raid support
Mon Mar 21 13:49:46 EST 2005
On Mar 21, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Isaac Levy wrote:
> Wordup All,
> On Mar 18, 2005, at 6:56 PM, G. Rosamond wrote:
>> This is a thread well worth following. . .
> [snip OpenBSD Adapted RAID saga]
> For those of you who didn't follow this thread, OpenBSD 3.7 will ship
> without Adaptec RAID support, as made slashdot yesterday:
That is true. . .
> IMHO: Go Theo. Walking the walk aint' easy, glad someone's tough in
> Open Source.
It seems a bit more complicated than that though. . .
First, it is clear that the Adaptec debate has built more walls between
OpenBSD and FreeBSD. That is why I would hold off on cheering for
either Scott Long of FreeBSD and Theo of OpenBSD. Negative divisions,
as opposed to different focuses and directions, is *not* good by any
Second, the argument is a lot more complex, IMHO, than for or against
open source. For those out of the loop on this one, and out of the
loop seems like a good place to be sometimes, this brutal and often
personal argument was cross posted between OBSD-misc and FreeBSD
To the extent that we matter, I would strongly NYCBUG's efforts need to
work to keep the BSD projects on the same page. This is not competing
'distros', or open source v closed. But if one thing could be said
about it, it's clear that FreeBSD and OpenBSD both have different
approaches with vendors who do not provide the needed documentation.
Scott Long of FreeBSD's argument was that we should work with the
vendors, and just aim towards getting the hardware, such as the Adaptec
RAID cards, up and operational, even if it means that we use closed
binary drivers and utilities. Theo of OpenBSD, on the other hand,
feels strongly that vendors not providing the necessary documentation,
NOT source, after repeated queries are a huge problem.
I'm not coming down on either side, but I also think that anything that
builds walls between the projects is VERY BAD. When you have four
groups of talented developers not approaching the politics of hardware
porting on the same page, and they don't have the public presence or
corporate backing of Linux, I think it's a big step backward for all.
> With that stated, as the dust is settling with this issue- and myself
> being a bit outside of the daily-use OpenBSD camp, what is everyone
> going to use for RAID on OpenBSD? (I'm particularly interested in
> sata hardware raid...?!?)
They are pushing all the other cards. . . most recently, the card
mentioned repeatedly was the LSI/AMI MegaRAID.
If anyone's interested in the argument, they should go back to the
archives of either list.
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