[nycbug-talk] Conference Topics Thread
nikolai at fetissov.org
Wed Jun 21 14:44:05 EDT 2006
> On 6/19/06, Peter Wright <pete at nomadlogic.org> wrote:
>> > Peter Wright writes:
>> >> I like that idea, although I personally would like to see specific
>> >> situations where perl, for example, was used as a tool to solve a
>> >> problem
>> >> (including anaylsis, which modules where used etc.).
>> > I think it highly depends on the target audience.
>> >> I think for the long term it's the process an admin goes through more
>> >> than
>> >> the specifics of the lang itself.
>> > This is why I thought of showing the basics on several, rather than
>> > Many admins may learn let's say perl and try to do everything with it.
>> > Just
>> > because it is the only tool they know off.
>> > By showing, mostly new, admins the different tools they can use
>> > they
>> > will better able to decide what they need to use for a particular
>> > As an example:
>> > Say an admin has some data he needs to get from a log file. If all he
>> > knows
>> > of is perl he may try and learn how to read a file from perl or do
>> > re-direction.. then will have to figure out how to parse, etc...
>> > the
>> > 'cut' utility may be all he needs. If he doesn't know it exists then
>> > will
>> > be stuck trying to use the only tool he does know.
>> > Without knowing target audience level it's kind of hard to tell which
>> > approach may be better. However I think covering examples in several
>> > approaches in a sort of recipies way, may perhaps help more people.
>> > basically can come out of the session with specific things to try.
>> yea i guess you are correct, i was assuming we would be addressing a
>> higher level audience. maybe not.
> Please don't leave out Junior Systems Admins, or Admins from windows
> where there's no 'cut' utility.
And please don't leave out poor VB developers
who never heard of BSD and don't know what
command line looks like :)
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