<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>On Oct 5, 2015, at 09:15, Isaac (.ike) Levy <<a href="mailto:ike@blackskyresearch.net">ike@blackskyresearch.net</a>> wrote:</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Hi Patrick,</span><br><span></span><br><span>This week should be a fun one:</span><br><span></span><br><span>true(1) and false(1),</span><br><span>The Classical Code Reading Group of Stockholm, NYC*BUG Mix Tape Edition</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.nycbug.org/index.cgi?action=view&id=10635">http://www.nycbug.org/index.cgi?action=view&id=10635</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Best,</span><br><span>.ike</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 1, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Patrick McEvoy <<a href="mailto:mcevoy.pat@gmail.com">mcevoy.pat@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do we have anything for this? Wanted to send out a tweet on it along</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with start the drum beat for Bourne.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>P</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>talk mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:talk@lists.nycbug.org">talk@lists.nycbug.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk">http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>talk mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:talk@lists.nycbug.org">talk@lists.nycbug.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk">http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk</a></span><br></div></blockquote><br><div>Tonight was a lot of fun. Thank you everyone who took part. If nothing else it is a reminder that you can learn a lot of what to expect from your operating system by looking at the code, irrespective of whether you know what `#ifndef` means or not. </div><div><br></div><div>It was very interesting to see how build practices imposed a lot of bloat into the two simple programs we looked at. </div><div><br></div><div>I offer the Darwin version, lifted from NetBSD, as a balanced way to write `true` in c:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/shell_cmds/shell_cmds-118/true/">http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/shell_cmds/shell_cmds-118/true/</a></div><div><br></div><div>The code itself is simple and thus easy to audit, but the folder it resides in still retains the standard structure the project as a whole needs to simplify the build, test, and documentation-creation processes. It is written in C, so it doesn't have the shell overhead a nameless OS choose to do.</div><div><br></div><div>Speaking of which, anyone feel like running the numbers to compare the differences in speed of the various versions of `true`? If you have a super-cluster handy, you could distribute the job to 10,000 cores to get a good statistical measurement. </div><div><br></div><div>Raúl</div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sent without help from A.I. | ' L ' | </span></div></body></html>