<div dir="auto">All I'll add (since I don't live in NYC anymore) is that I miss bring part of such a vibrant community. If you are on the fence, don't take this lightly - dive in! It's an amazing opportunity!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 7, 2018 5:24 PM, "George Rosamond" <<a href="mailto:george@ceetonetechnology.com">george@ceetonetechnology.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Raul Cuza:<br>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 12:46 PM, George Rosamond<br>
> <<a href="mailto:george@ceetonetechnology.com">george@ceetonetechnology.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I'm forking this from my previous email, to open up the discussion and<br>
>> generate some concrete ideas.<br>
>><br>
>> I'll repeat the basis:<br>
>><br>
>> after Brian C's OpenBSD porting meeting last night, it became clear that<br>
>> there's a decent critical mass of port maintainers in the NYC area from<br>
>> the BSD projects.<br>
>><br>
>> This specifically means people who port third-party applications to one<br>
>> BSD or another for inclusion in the respective ports and packages. It<br>
>> might include people who build and maintain large Mozilla ports, or<br>
>> simple shell-based utilities. There might even be those involved in the<br>
>> actual port-building infrastructure, ie, the Make environment that the<br>
>> ports systems dwell in.<br>
>><br>
>> Assembling a bunch of them wouldn't be trivial, as we'd need space,<br>
>> etc., but we could probably do this without a lot of extras past<br>
>> NYCBSDCons require. Think no heavy sponsors, no catered food (except<br>
>> maybe pizzas), no hotels.<br>
>><br>
>> There's some important issues to establish first:<br>
>><br>
>> * is the event aimed at current maintainers talking to other maintainers?<br>
>><br>
>> * if above is true, what topics would actually have them speaking the<br>
>> same tongue to make the event worthwhile?<br>
>><br>
>> * would prospective maintainers be included on some level?<br>
>><br>
>> * if above is true, would porting workshops (like last night) be part of<br>
>> the agenda?<br>
>><br>
>> Anyways, I hope this opens up some discussion on the topic, since this<br>
>> will be the basis to determine whether this sort of event is feasible in<br>
>> NYC.<br>
>><br>
>> g<br>
>><br>
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> At the risk of being asked to leave the ranch, I think learning to<br>
> make Homebrew ports should be included. For all its faults, OS X is a<br>
> BSD at its core.<br>
<br>
Off the ranch!<br>
<br>
I'd be -1 on that, personally.<br>
<br>
Maybe a better approach would be to gear the event towards tutorials.<br>
<br>
There is an instructor for each BSD port system, and two time slots.<br>
Users sign up for the BSD port system they intend to use, and in the<br>
first session it's an overview, then the second one is hands-on, with<br>
possible port submissions.<br>
<br>
Users would have to pick which BSD, and we could assess the number of<br>
'helpers' at each session. If, say, 20 users sign up for LoopyBSD, the<br>
2nd hands-on tutorial might require x people to be there.<br>
<br>
Something like BCallah's doc sprint, without the DDOS effect?<br>
<br>
Then we could have more general sessions preceding or following the two<br>
BSD-specific time slots.<br>
<br>
We could ultimately judge the results in (serious) ports submitted.<br>
<br>
Still toying with the idea, but we're not going to even consider it<br>
without more input.<br>
<br>
g<br>
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