<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:24 PM, George Rosamond <<a href="mailto:george@ceetonetechnology.com" class="">george@ceetonetechnology.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">There was a conference call yesterday regarding the Intel chip security<br class="">issues. Ike of NYC*BUG and Ed Maste of FreeBSD among others.<br class=""><br class="">Here's the audio if anyone's interested:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fkNfl1RTGiEFZ8PzjW_GTu3F1VK6WFp_/view" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fkNfl1RTGiEFZ8PzjW_GTu3F1VK6WFp_/view</a><br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://www.gotostage.com/channel/92a6c9fc676543d68250ef5376dcfd90/recording/f80d33a2702145cab2178bbb1e8ea98e/watch?login=corporate&tos=true" class="">https://www.gotostage.com/channel/92a6c9fc676543d68250ef5376dcfd90/recording/f80d33a2702145cab2178bbb1e8ea98e/watch?login=corporate&tos=true</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Without having listened to it yet, I’ll tell you one thing that really pisses me off about</div><div>this… It’s like a flashback to the ‘oughts - Linux guys get a TON of advance notice </div><div>- FreeBSD gets, what, a week or a few days?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>In the old days I was also pissed about the *BSD red-headed stepchild treatment</div><div>by vendors, but with FreeBSD specifically and the Foundation being a legit entity</div><div>that can sign NDAs and the like, I don’t know what the excuse is today for not</div><div>giving FreeBSD (or other *BSDs) more advance notice. Really disappointing.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Charles</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">For most people on the list, the value is purely about Ike shooting from<br class="">the hip at the state of things. If his comments horrify or even shock<br class="">you, unsubs to talk@ are encouraged!<br class=""><br class="">g<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">5822 F82D 665B 5C6A 915B FAD4 B014 1CEE 545A A6C6<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">talk mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:talk@lists.nycbug.org" class="">talk@lists.nycbug.org</a><br class="">http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>