[nycbug-talk] party +

Marc Spitzer mspitzer
Fri Dec 17 14:18:46 EST 2004


On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:21:10 -0500, Okan Demirmen <okan at demirmen.com> wrote:
> On Fri 2004.12.17 at 11:12 -0500, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2004, at 11:00 AM, Okan Demirmen wrote:
> >
> > >Second, I was talking to a few people about a few things that made
> > >people look at me like I was nuts (maybe I am/was). Unfortunately,
> > >I don't remember their names, so I thought I'd drop a link to one
> > >of the topics that got me odd looks - CLI (not command line interface),
> > >but common language infrastructure. To take it further (yes I said
> > >this), you can also see what Microsoft is going with their rendition,
> > >CLR.  I'll spare the details for this list, but drop at least a
> > >link in:
> > >
> > >http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-335.htm
> > >
> > >Then you can take this a step further into virtual environments and
> > >see where this may lead us one day. (Hello EMC?)
> >
> > The CLI isn't a very big step beyond where the JVM already is...  It's
> > been proven several times over that the JVM is at least nearly as
> > capable of providing a runtime for alternative languages (Jython,
> > Groovy, etc.).
> >
> > The CLI and JVM both have sandboxing features, but they're not really
> > the same sort of thing that is provided by the kernel.
> 
> I agree with you. I was simply talking about CLI, and I kept getting
> command line interface back. I should have chosen my words more
> carefully, especially when I may have been sluring.
> 
> Okan

as keeper of things wierd and nifty:

ucd pascal pcode

and the poplog project

both have done this for a long time befor  java was designated as the
toaster programming language, remember befor the web.

marc

ps ucd-pcode is a lot older than poplog




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