[nycbug-talk] [Fwd: Re: Announcement: New York *BSDusergroupformed]

Okan Demirmen okan
Thu Jan 15 00:09:47 EST 2004

On Wed 2004.01.14 at 23:51 -0500, Rodrick R. Brown wrote:
> Marc, please read what I wrote and Aron got the point I was trying to make
> not sure why you didn't :-) "SOLARIS WAS BSD" you can't take that away from
> it period so all the extra stuff about your background isnt necessary :) 

I think we are all stuck in symantecs (OS vs OS vs Name of Company).
SunOS was a BSD core, not Solaris (Two different OS's). Solaris has
BSD elements left over. SUN is the name of the company, and if we
want history, formally known as Stanford University Network.

I'm lost on the purpose of this thread, for the OP was caught up
in symantecs himself: BSD or not BSD.

and my $0.02


> Just my 2cents. 
> - RB 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org]
> On Behalf Of Marc Spitzer
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:38 PM
> To: talk at lists.nycbug.org
> Subject: Re: [nycbug-talk] [Fwd: Re: Announcement: New York
> *BSDusergroupformed]
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:38:14 -0500
> Aron Roberts <aron at slam.cc> wrote:
> > Yeah but I think you are missing his point about original SunOS....
> I am aware of the history, I worked on hpux 9.X wich was also bsd based
> and apollo domain(what HP bought to get into the workstation market) boxes
> in college.  But with that said if you talk Sun today you are talking
> Solaris and it is that simple.  And the only reason that unix
> converged the way it did in the 80's and 90's was that for cheap money
> you could buy the basis of your OS cutting a year off of the development
> time.  And even current Unix is still not where VAX/VMS was back in 1990.
> And in many ways it could have been done much better, root is
> a design flaw and /etc/passwd with the passwords world readable was also
> just not a good idea.  
> marc
> > 
> > if it were not for some stupid BBS in Seattle I was on where I had to 
> > learn SunOS 4.x.x_x (blah blah) I don't think I would have ever turned
> > into a UNIX geek. And it was all BSD before they went to "Solaris"
> > So yes the product is dead... but it doesn't remove the history of
> > what you used "back in the day"
> > 
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