[nycbug-talk] Never mind

Marc Spitzer mspitzer
Sat Aug 6 21:37:02 EDT 2005


On 8/6/05, Isaac Levy <ike at lesmuug.org> wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> On Aug 5, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> 
> > Other layouts anyone?
> >
> 
> Yeah, but throwing in .02$ on MacOSX mount point scheme- looking at
> the problem from a fundamental perspective:
> 
> --
> Basically, Apple threw out the slicing conventions alltogether- and
> simply focused on protecting various directory trees using
> permissions, (and now acl's etc...), which we do on other BSD's in
> the first place.
> 
> With that, seeing as a modern filesystem, (Journaled HFS+ on OSX),
> disk fragmentation is not an issue as it was in the past, so that
> aspect of the reasons for partitioning is now moot.
> 
> Secondarily, in the context of a widely mixed-use, mixed-context
> computer, (a User Desktop/Workstation), the applications run are
> quite varied in behavior, resource needs, etc... so problems like
> this browser issue are not really problems- (you have the whole disk
> to use, and lots of visual/graphical/ui indicators for how much file
> space you have on deck...)
> 
> So with that, there's also little risk, in many User/Desktop
> contexts, of resource-based attacks which can't be solved by a user
> easily- (deleting files when HD is too full...), so while I'll follow
> rigid partitioning schemes on a server connected to the www, it
> doesn't seem to be the same issue at all to me on my Laptop.
> 
> --
> What does everyone else think of this?  Does anyone run another *BSD
> as a desktop/laptop/workstation OS and simply live in one big /
> partition?  UFS has fairly sophisticated schemes for suppressing disk
> fragmentation, (actually, BSD OS really nailed this issue in the
> filesystem years ago), so what does everyone think?
> 
> Run wild withone big / (!?!?)
> 

its not a bad setup for a desk top, one bad point is / is a R/W files
ystem with lots of writes.   For servers it is less useful, I do not
want syslog spam to fill my database partition for example.

It depends on what you are doing

marc




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