[nycbug-talk] a clarification about the csup/CVS announcement

Brett Wynkoop nycbug at wynn.com
Fri Jan 11 16:36:36 EST 2013


On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:11:54 -0500
Glen Barber <gjb at FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:06:37PM -0500, Brett Wynkoop wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:23:30 -0800
> > Pete Wright <pete at nomadlogic.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > i'm a little confused as to how can't have enough space to install
> > > the svn package but still have enough space to manually build
> > > kernel+world.
> > > 
> > > i've seen a lot of people bring this argument up on various
> > > freebsd threads and i'm just not getting it...
> > > 
> > > having said that - if someone where able to port csup over to svn
> > > i would be a very happy person, but i really don't expect that to
> > > happen.
> > > 
> > > -pete
> > > 
> > 
> > Here we go:
> > 
> > wynkoop at beaglebone:~ % uname -a
> > FreeBSD beaglebone 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #10: Sat Jan  5
> > 07:03:04 EST 2013
> > root at beaglebone:/sys/arm/compile/BEAGLEBONE-DEBUG  arm
> > wynkoop at beaglebone:~ % 
> > 
> > wynkoop at beaglebone:~ % df -h
> > Filesystem        Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > /dev/mmcsd0s2a    7.2G    3.4G    3.3G    51%    /
> > devfs             1.0k    1.0k      0B   100%    /dev
> > wynkoop at beaglebone:~ % 
> > 
> > That is the state just after make buildworld and before make make
> > buildkernel.  Many of the guys working on ARM stuff have 4Gb
> > disks.  I went large with 8Gb.
> > 
> 
> Technically, you should 'buildworld' before 'buildkernel' so the
> kernel toolchain exists.  Otherwise, kernel build can fail for
> strange reasons.
>

And that is exactly what I said I did.  Please re-read the above.  I
have given you the state of my machine AFTER buildworld, but before
BUILDKERNEL.  

The point is that someone with only 4GB of space has just enough room
to rebuild world and rebuild kernel, but not enough room for ports as
well.

Now to try and figure out how to keep pulling kernel and world sources
from the server after CVS is shutdown.  I have just looked at
www.freebsd.org and while they talk about cvs for ports going away and
point everyone at portsnap I see no reference to cvs for kernel and
world going away and no instructions on what to do in that case.  If
cvs is really going away for kernel and core maybe one of the core team
should see to it that the proper notes make it onto the site so as to
now leave people in a lurch.

Thanks!

-Brett
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