[talk] despair with linux

Edward Capriolo edlinuxguru at gmail.com
Fri Mar 18 02:40:06 EDT 2016


systemd is a total $hitshow. IMHO it was a bad attempt to try and clone
solaris svc without really having the infrastructure in the os to make it
happen.


I don't know I am from the old days, you had init scripts and you wrote
things that did not crash every 8 hours thus needing some fancy system to
constantly restart it. Software searching a use case I guess.

I never had a problem with udev, someone explained it to me once and it
made sense in a crazy way. But yea its one of those things that only makes
sense for the moment someone is explaining it to you.

The think you have to realize is "its a throw away world" laptops with no
expandability. Servers OSes are not not for servers, you make an iso and
use it in the cloud forever! Why would you be trying to boot something
thats not booting, just spin up another instance in CLOUD!

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 2:11 AM, Raúl Cuza <raulcuza at gmail.com> wrote:

> I noticed he mentioned nothing about virtual machines. If all testing is
> being done on VMs with average up times in hours if not minutes, how will
> the issues he brings up get caught? I don't know that this is how the
> distos test, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
>
> Sent without help from A.I. | ' L ' |
>
> On Mar 17, 2016, at 20:29, Brian Coca <briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://linas.org/
>
> You can infer from the post that the trend of re-engineering base
> systems breeds more problems than it solves. Very similar experiences
> are why I moved away from Windows to Linux and BSD.
>
> My work has me dealing with many OSs, the most common sources of
> problems are OS X and systemd based distros, but they are also the
> most commonly deployed ....
>
> I just hope none of this ever spills over to the BSDs, Devuan and
> Gentoo are my last hopes for Linux.
>
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