[talk] Suggest meeting topic: role of BSD in response to ransomware
James E Keenan
jkeenan at pobox.com
Tue Jul 11 10:55:37 EDT 2017
On 07/11/2017 10:49 AM, Jesse Callaway wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Okan Demirmen <okan at demirmen.com
> <mailto:okan at demirmen.com>> wrote:
> On Tue 2017.07.11 at 19:38 +0530, Sujit K M wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:01 PM, James E Keenan <jkeenan at pobox.com <mailto:jkeenan at pobox.com>> wrote:
> > > Here's a topic I wouldn't mind seeing discussed at a future NYCBUG meeting:
> > Are you suggesting that since FreeBSD is the defacto standard in
> > Networking Routers?
> I don't want to distract from the question James asked, but this
> above is incorrect; I typically refain from responding to these, but
> this is
> just wrong.
> > Or Are you suggesting the High Availability to Loads that it can support?
> > >
> > > Is there a role for the BSDs in response to massive ransomware attacks?
> > I have never understood these attacks. I find it solely because of
> > illiterate professionals.
> > It can always be avoided.
> It is because the frameworks allow for it.
> > > In the last few months ransomware attacks such as WannaCry
> > > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WannaCry_ransomware_attack>) have had a
> > > devastating effect on large organizations. Organizations
> affected include
> > > one of the largest law firms in the country and one of the
> world's largest
> > > advertising agency networks. Such organizations are,
> typically, "Windows
> > > shops."
> > >
> > > Suppose that you are a sysadmin or other, non-executive-level
> techie in such
> > > an organization. You've heard about FreeBSD and OpenBSD and
> you wonder,
> > > "Would using these OSes have helped us either resist a
> ransomware attack?
> > > Could they help us recover better from such an attack?"
> > I agree We are better equipped.
> > >
> > > I ask because I know such people. Their organizations have
> decades of
> > > investment in Windows, so, under normal circumstances, it's
> difficult for
> > > them to argue the case for other OSes. But these are not normal
> > > circumstances. Is there an "elevator pitch" we could provide
> them for
> > > exploring BSD?
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > > Jim Keenan
> > >
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> Most of these exploits are Windows. It's just the easiest target.
> There's certainly at least this body of "tools" one can point to, and by
> inference on the art of war the bad guys doing ransomware are using
> similar technology. So far all ransomware attacks I've heard of (ever)
> target Windows networked storage.
> I am certainly interested in how an office can use network storage
> without using Windows software, in a practical manner. Would be good to
> hear people's ideas on this. EG: How can you get a 20 person accounting
> firm to be more secure against such an attack while having to run
> Quickbooks and whatever their favorite tax software is, using shared
> document storage.
Thanks, Jesse, that's an example of the kind of response I was looking for.
Do the BSDs address problems that people outside the BSD world are
And how do we talk with them about that?
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