<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 28, 2019, at 12:14 AM, Sujit K M <<a href="mailto:kmsujit@gmail.com" class="">kmsujit@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">With that, I think a number of questions from the questionnaire deserve discussion:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">7. The FreeBSD Project produces software. I view FreeBSD's software as…<br class="">- a building block for commercial appliances (customizable kernel plus packages)<br class="">- a competitive advantage in my workplace<br class="">- a complete and self-contained operating system<br class="">- a consumable piece of released or shrink-wrapped software (a release)<br class="">- a suite of userland packages (e.g. ports)<br class="">- a toolkit that builds an end-to-end, customized distribution (e.g. make world + poudriere)<br class="">- an embeddable kernel (e.g. PS4)<br class="">- an opinionated "operating system as a service" that I consume<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">OK- I’ve heard this “operating system as a service” vocabulary before. What the heck does it mean? I’m honestly clueless here.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I have never heard or seen ads for FreeBSD for Amazon/Google Cloud.<br class="">How do they recruit their developers.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Colin Percival on AWS:</div><a href="http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2018-02-12-FreeBSD-EC2-history.html" class="">http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2018-02-12-FreeBSD-EC2-history.html</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Google itself on Google Cloud</div><div><a href="https://googlecloudplatform.uservoice.com/forums/302595-compute-engine/suggestions/18618931-freebsd" class="">https://googlecloudplatform.uservoice.com/forums/302595-compute-engine/suggestions/18618931-freebsd</a></div><div><a href="https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-10" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow noopener" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration-skip: objects; color: rgb(102, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-10</a><br style="box-sizing: border-box; caret-color: rgb(20, 20, 20); color: rgb(20, 20, 20); font-family: "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><a href="https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-11" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow noopener" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration-skip: objects; color: rgb(102, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-11</a></div><div><a href="https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-12" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow noopener" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration-skip: objects; color: rgb(102, 0, 0); font-family: "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-12</a></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Namespace/cgroup support<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Immutable Server Images<br class="">Docker Support<br class="">Kubernetes Support<br class="">Virtualization Support<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Would have loved a more organized/separate question set about contemporary virtualization stuff, e.g.:<br class="">- running docker containers (where namespace/cgroup is important)<br class="">- kubernetes (choking back vomit, but yeah important to address for work)<br class="">- immutable server images (this sort of facility exists in FreeBSD, what here are we talking about? A docker implement?)<br class="">- Differentiation of Hypervisor virtualization, (bhyve, et al), vs process try (jail, docker, k8s, et al)<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Docker??Kubernetes?? It is Linux/Mac/Windows Based, like it is<br class="">dependent on kernel for these OS's.<br class="">Even Solaris doesn't support Docker/Kubernetes as such. My question is<br class="">what are the current alternatives for<br class="">these if Google/Amazon support Cloud for FreeBSD.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>While k8s doesn’t run on FreeBSD (though jails are quite similar), Docker does: <a href="https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker" class="">https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""></body></html>