I am working on an irc box for us...to use, I need a volunteer who's familiar with hybrid7...that wouldn't mind aiding in setting this thing up with chanbots et cettera...right now it's on my devbox @ irc.upan.org once things are rolling I'll shift it to a nice jailed server and we can CNAME it to irc.nycbug.org... -- Cheers, Mikel King