[nycbug-talk] BSD on a desktop

[Kliment Andreev]

Scott Robbins wrote:

>On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 03:33:19PM -0400, Okan Demirmen wrote:
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>>On Sat 2004.07.31 at 15:14 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
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>>>><shameless spam>
>>>>Some friends of mine and I are working on a series of QND (as in
>>>>quick-n-dirty) guides--we threw in one about screen.
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>>>http://qnd-guides.org/qnd-screen.html
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>>i know this is getting OT, but i'd like to throw my $.02 out here.
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>IMHO very apt, however (sigh, if this were a Deb list, there's a pun
>there.)
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>>other words, i say learn to use the standard utils, existant in all
>>OS's / shells, first, then find the nice "addon" tools later.
>>(*bsd/sunos/solaris/hpux/aix/linux/etc......) far too many times
>>have i seen admins expect to use tools that simply do not exist on
>>stock/custom builds that are not their own - and then even in dire
>>times....
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>An embarrassing but perhaps educational story.  
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>I first got into IT as a profession via the MCSE route though the *nix
>clones interested me a great deal.  I got my first job, and had to edit
>some files on an AIX box.  Thinking I was an elite Linuxer or whatever,
>I went to fire up pico--oops, no pico on the AIX box.  (Yeah, I know,
>but remember I was ignorant then.)
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>I learned vi in a hurry, and when I see posts like Okan's, I think of
>how true they are.  
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>I like screen but wouldn't want to be hired somewhere, go to do some
>remote things and not know of -nohup.  
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>Thank you Okan, for reminding us of this.
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