[nycbug-talk] thoughts, issues, and ideas.

[Bob Ippolito]

On Jan 24, 2005, at 10:06, steve wrote:

> and now i come to this list. the nycbug general list. on the homepage 
> of the nycbug there is not charter of organization, the closest i 
> could find to a charter is the following "This is like-minded people 
> getting together under a single interest." which to me means that 
> nycbug is a group of people that as the nylug group are involved with 
> the bsd variants in some way or another, and that this mailing list is 
> more for discussions and is very open. which is fine with me (but who 
> cares). and when i do try to bring up a technical question the 
> responses are negligible, for the php question i think i got 4 
> responses and one was that i should asks the folks over at nyphp 
> group. when i asked the apache question i also got 5 responses, yet 
> only two answered my question. the other three, one told me to go 
> elsewhere because they might better answer my question, the next one 
> told me that openbsd froze their apache at 1.3.29 for license reasons. 
> all i wanted was to start a discussion that would involve the members 
> of this group, and i was looking for personal opinions, you the people 
> of this group are technically astute, and most if not all have apache 
> running in some form, why cant we just have a technical discussion 
> where we point out what worked for us and what we recommend. i can 
> (just as well as you) read all about apache on various pages, but the 
> thing that makes this field, (meaning unix, bsd, and linux) different 
> is that we share what we learned the hard way with one another.

In general, seriously presented specific questions solicit serious 
answers.  For example, the questions you reference have extremely poor 
Subject headers, and the questions themselves have been vague and are 
rife with grammatical errors.  If you don't put a sufficient amount of 
effort into phrasing a question, how can you expect someone to put a 
decent amount of effort into a response?  From looking over those 
threads, it seems that the responses you received are more than 
deserving of the questions asked :)

>  i would like to propose that we create a separate mailing list called 
> bsdmanagers, and take the rules that are applied to the other purely 
> technical mailing lists, namely only technically bsd related question 
> are allowed. and if i ask a question about my php on bsd, i wont get 
> told to go to a different group to ask that question. i would like to 
> see the nycbug lists become world renowned for technical questions and 
> answers for anything that involves the bsd world. and if you dont know 
> or dont want ot answer then dont.

As has been said already, it is silly to split this list in two with 
only a handful of posts a day, most of which wouldn't end up on said 
new list.  It would be stillborn.

-bob