[nycbug-talk] For and Against IPv6

[Trish Lynch]

Government paying private contractors is *quite* capitalistic. 

Socialism is where the company is owned by the state or run by the state, an important part of capitalism is charginbg the government for work done in the private sector.

-Trish
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Jesse Callaway" <bonsaime at gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:48:09 
To:"Marc Spitzer" <mspitzer at gmail.com>
Cc:NYCBUG List <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
Subject: Re: [nycbug-talk] For and Against IPv6


On 10/13/07, Marc Spitzer <mspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/13/07, Bjorn Nelson <o_sleep at belovedarctos.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 12, 2007, at 4:09 PM, csnyder wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/12/07, Marc Spitzer <mspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> And this makes the hosting and network transport companies money how?
> > >> And that is
> > >> Alex's main point how does it help me pay my rent as a business?  If
> > >> it does not then, generally speaking, I should not do it.
> > >
> > > Ah, but that is actually my point. The adoption of ipv6 may need to
> > > happen most for applications that are _not_ driven by commerce and
> > > that don't directly pay anybody's rent.
> >
> > i.e. Government Contract.  Any politicians on the list?
> >
>
> perfect more socialism in america, just what we need.
>
> marc
> --


Socialistic-seeming constraints are necessary to prop up the health of
our capitalistic national economy. Without road and utilities being
chartered by the gov't people would be living in the woods with no way
to get to work, and arguably with no reason to go.
Trash is collected "for free" (taxes pay) in NYC because it cannot
afford to be dirtier. Some communities understand that the all the
inhabitants would NEVER let trash sit on the curb if they could pay
someone to pick it up, and bank on that. It goes to show that it
really depends on the particulars of how necessary the guidelines and
money from government is to the ability of people to work, ie live.
We would literally die if the trash wasn't picked up in NY for a
considerable time. Will we die if we don't get ipv6? No. But it does
hamper the ability to securely provide SOAP services  and efficiently
provide streaming of voice and video. This means it's holding up porn
and gambling. That's a no-no in the economy, and the reality of
capitalism, especially that which is most backing the expansion of the
Internet.
Sorry, I just couldn't let that one go. It's a standard rant I have
pent up that I feed live chickens once a week.
Anyway, if my argument holds any water then ipv6 will be deployed in
the US when it has to be. It seems we've been near the breaking point
for a couple of years and may have to hang in there for a bit longer.


-jesse

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