[nycbug-talk] Larry Ellison on "Cloud Computing"

[Miles Nordin]

    mt> actually bringing down the cost of hosting services in
    mt> general.

I was completely stunned by the cost of EC2 compared to dedicated
hosting.  (EC2 seems many times more expensive.)

same is true of gangusinternet and a couple other futuristic
pseudodedicated hosting companies i checked out---ludicrous prices
comared to hetzner.de.

so far the companies getting stamped by pundits ``cloud computing''
seem like very expensive ``control panel'' like cpanel or hsphere, but
for domU's instead of nonshell user accounts.  I think i don't fully
understand it w.r.t. its supposed revolutionary ``web-scale'' claims
because it seems useless for responding to load spikes without shared
access to a high-end load balancer.

In the end I think it'll be equivalent to Xen, and it'll become mostly
a way of choosing your operating system.  Rented hardware only works
well and quickly with the prebuilt image offered by the rented
hardware host, and installing stuff like Solaris and FreeBSD is just
an impossible pain in the ass now because even when you think it's
working you find some obscure stepping of some particular ethernet or
sata chip locks up once every two days and no one can fix it.  Also
people seem to have huge difficulty getting Xen hosts working for
themselves.  even BSD developers tend to use Mac OS X and then run
their *BSD OS inside a VM.  Even if you want just one box worth of
capacity, it's much easier to upload a domU to someone else who has
gotten the hardware working for you, even if it costs more for the
same performance.
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