[talk] 2015-10-07 NYCBUG- meeting TBA?

[Isaac (.ike) Levy]

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:40 PM, Raúl Cuza <raulcuza at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Tonight was a lot of fun. Thank you everyone who took part. If nothing else it is a reminder that you can learn a lot of what to expect from your operating system by looking at the code, irrespective of whether you know what `#ifndef` means or not. 

Absolutely.

I'm really excited that George Brocklehurst will be continuing the Meetup in NYC!

> 
> It was very interesting to see how build practices imposed a lot of bloat into the two simple programs we looked at. 

Inspired by Wietse Venema's comments, I'll offer this up:

https://github.com/dotike/honest

Ha!  Everyone, submit patches!!!

Best,
.ike

> 
> I offer the Darwin version, lifted from NetBSD, as a balanced way to write `true` in c:
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> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/shell_cmds/shell_cmds-118/true/

I dig how they have a true.sh in there too, perhaps is that there for build tools to use, before the binary is compiled?

> 
> The code itself is simple and thus easy to audit, but the folder it resides in still retains the standard structure the project as a whole needs to simplify the build, test, and documentation-creation processes. It is written in C, so it doesn't have the shell overhead a nameless OS choose to do.
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> Speaking of which, anyone feel like running the numbers to compare the differences in speed of the various versions of `true`? If you have a super-cluster handy, you could distribute the job to 10,000 cores to get a good statistical measurement. 
> 
> Raúl
> 

I'd like to see that too...  The truth is out there...  (haha)

Rocket-
.ike