From george at ceetonetechnology.com Mon May 2 14:16:35 2016 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:16:35 -0400 Subject: [talk] NYC*BUG Wednesday: Message-ID: <6e92fa30-7979-3174-13b8-08a959577edc@ceetonetechnology.com> May 4, Wednesday Urchin: Unix-style tests, Thomas Levine 18:45, Stone Creek Bar & Lounge: 140 E 27th St Abstract Urchin is a portable shell test harness based on the idea that a test case should be an ordinary Unix-style program. It's called "Urchin" because sea urchin shells are called "tests". I'll discuss how one uses Urchin, and I'll show examples of tests written in Urchin. Urchin is mostly (entirely?) used for running shell tests to test shell programs, so I'll also compare it with other approaches to testing shell programs. Speaker Bio Thomas Levine is a neodada artist with an interest in sleep. He enjoys writing intuitive and minimal user interfaces, like Urchin, that are thus easy to learn and easy to reverse-engineer. 2016-06-15 - Adventures in HardenedBSD, Shawn Webb 2016-07-06 - Meet the Smallest BSDs: RetroBSD and LiteBSD, Brian Callahan 2016-08-03 - BSD Installfest, n/a 2016-09-07 - Teaching FreeBSD, George Neville-Neil From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed May 4 10:30:33 2016 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 10:30:33 -0400 Subject: [talk] NYCBUG Tonight on Urchin: Unix-Style Tests Message-ID: Wednesday, May 4 Urchin: Unix-style tests, Thomas Levine 18:45, Stone Creek Bar & Lounge: 140 E 27th St Abstract Urchin is a portable shell test harness based on the idea that a test case should be an ordinary Unix-style program. It's called "Urchin" because sea urchin shells are called "tests." I'll discuss how one uses Urchin, and I'll show examples of tests written in Urchin. Urchin is mostly (entirely?) used for running shell tests to test shell programs, so I'll also compare it with other approaches to testing shell programs. Speaker Bio Thomas Levine is a neodada artist with an interest in sleep. He enjoys writing intuitive and minimal user interfaces, like Urchin, that are thus easy to learn and easy to reverse-engineer. From _ at thomaslevine.com Fri May 6 10:28:51 2016 From: _ at thomaslevine.com (Thomas Levine) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 14:28:51 +0000 Subject: [talk] Notes from this month's talk Message-ID: <20160506142851.GA13465@x220.home> Hi, Here are notes on Urchin and on testing shell programs. https://thomaslevine.com/!/unix-style-tests/ https://thomaslevine.com/!/shell-testing/ I built them into slides for the talk. https://thomaslevine.com/!/unix-style-tests/slides.html https://thomaslevine.com/!/shell-testing/slides.html Here's a picture of me standing in front of a BSD sign in Sofia, Bulgaria. https://thomaslevine.com/lib/2015-06-07-bsd.jpg I demonstrated Urchin on this silly test suite. http://tlevine.sdf.org/urchin/dir?ci=0ff4eca997aad383&name=example You can download Urchin here. http://tlevine.sdf.org/urchin/ Note that I mostly discussed the present unstable trunk version of Urchin; go here documentation of the present release. http://tlevine.sdf.org/urchin/artifact/c89ccfd84a2b3e85 http://tlevine.sdf.org/urchin/artifact/aaf84e84900065fb http://tlevine.sdf.org/urchin/wiki?name=v0.1.0 In case anyone plays with it enough to have commentary, I am presently considering whether the timeout feature (-T) is necessary and whether there's a better approach for testing on multiple operating systems (-r). Tom From _ at thomaslevine.com Fri May 6 10:35:54 2016 From: _ at thomaslevine.com (Thomas Levine) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 14:35:54 +0000 Subject: [talk] [membership@sdf.org: [SDF] Plan9 Boot Camp is BACK!] Message-ID: <20160506143554.GC13465@x220.home> This might interest some of you. To register, 1. If you don't have an SDF account, do this: http://sdf.org/?signup 2. Follow the directions below. ----- Forwarded message from membership at sdf.org ----- Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 16:08:49 GMT From: membership at sdf.org Subject: [SDF] Plan9 Boot Camp is BACK! The SDF Plan9 Boot Camp 2016 registration opens Today. The camp will be self guided and the SDF VoIP conference bridge (1088), com, bboard and irc can be used for group sessions. To register, please type 'plan9' at the shell. There is no cost to be involved in the boot camp and you will have access until September 2016. Donations are greatly appreciated via the paypal to paypal at freeshell.org as well as joining the VPS membership to support the project. The camp is limited to about 60 participants (first come, first served) and you will be notified via email with details about accessing your machine this coming weekend. What is Plan9? Plan9 is a research operating system from Bell Labs that implements ideas from UNIX and new ideas. In recent years, it has famously been run on the LANL supercomputer where it achieved impressive benchmarks. Plan9 can be accessed via a terminal, but it is designed to be used via windowing GUI. 'drawterm' is the client you'll want to get and is available for most desktop environments. More details can be found here: http://sdf.org/?tutorials/VPS_Plan9 This year we will focus on: * installation from an ISO * system configuration * networked file sharing through 9p * clustering * communal computing * application development Type 'plan9' today to reserve your slot in the SDF Plan9 Boot Camp 2016 ----- End forwarded message ----- From pete at nomadlogic.org Sun May 8 10:44:00 2016 From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 07:44:00 -0700 Subject: [talk] [membership@sdf.org: [SDF] Plan9 Boot Camp is BACK!] In-Reply-To: <20160506143554.GC13465@x220.home> References: <20160506143554.GC13465@x220.home> Message-ID: <2a71da33-5e25-79c1-8852-01c30b7962f5@nomadlogic.org> On 05/ 6/16 07:35 AM, Thomas Levine wrote: > This might interest some of you. To register, > > 1. If you don't have an SDF account, do this: http://sdf.org/?signup > 2. Follow the directions below. > hey that's great - i've been using my sdf account for years now (decades? yikes) but missed this announcement. imho - a service like SDF, or any shell service that you don't manage yourself, is a key tool for any sysadmin as it gives you another vector to test/troubleshoot network connectivity, externally facing services etc. thanks! -pete -- Pete Wright pete at nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA From george at ceetonetechnology.com Sun May 8 18:33:19 2016 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 18:33:19 -0400 Subject: [talk] [membership@sdf.org: [SDF] Plan9 Boot Camp is BACK!] In-Reply-To: <2a71da33-5e25-79c1-8852-01c30b7962f5@nomadlogic.org> References: <20160506143554.GC13465@x220.home> <2a71da33-5e25-79c1-8852-01c30b7962f5@nomadlogic.org> Message-ID: On 05/08/16 10:44, Pete Wright wrote: > > > On 05/ 6/16 07:35 AM, Thomas Levine wrote: >> This might interest some of you. To register, >> >> 1. If you don't have an SDF account, do this: http://sdf.org/?signup >> 2. Follow the directions below. >> > > hey that's great - i've been using my sdf account for years now > (decades? yikes) but missed this announcement. SDF never gets the deserved credit. So many free shell services come and go. > > imho - a service like SDF, or any shell service that you don't manage > yourself, is a key tool for any sysadmin as it gives you another vector > to test/troubleshoot network connectivity, externally facing services etc. Agree strongly. I think it's particularly vital as the 'second site' for small shops, and it can scale easily for larger shops. If the provider is reliable, then it's useful for remote monitoring, etc. g From _ at thomaslevine.com Mon May 9 19:15:29 2016 From: _ at thomaslevine.com (Thomas Levine) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 23:15:29 +0000 Subject: [talk] [membership@sdf.org: [SDF] Plan9 Boot Camp is BACK!] In-Reply-To: References: <20160506143554.GC13465@x220.home> <2a71da33-5e25-79c1-8852-01c30b7962f5@nomadlogic.org> Message-ID: <20160509231529.GB40328@x220> Some people created new SDF accounts and found that the plan9 command to give unexpected results. It seems like you need a higher level of membership than a new unvalidated account in order to do that. I am at Patron Lifetime Membership Level (ARPA), and that was apparently enough. The bootcamp registration has apparently at capacity, but they'll supposedly run another in September. On 08 May 18:33, George Rosamond wrote: > On 05/08/16 10:44, Pete Wright wrote: > > > > > > On 05/ 6/16 07:35 AM, Thomas Levine wrote: > >> This might interest some of you. To register, > >> > >> 1. If you don't have an SDF account, do this: http://sdf.org/?signup > >> 2. Follow the directions below. > >> > > > > hey that's great - i've been using my sdf account for years now > > (decades? yikes) but missed this announcement. > > SDF never gets the deserved credit. So many free shell services come > and go. > > > > > imho - a service like SDF, or any shell service that you don't manage > > yourself, is a key tool for any sysadmin as it gives you another vector > > to test/troubleshoot network connectivity, externally facing services etc. > > Agree strongly. > > I think it's particularly vital as the 'second site' for small shops, > and it can scale easily for larger shops. > > If the provider is reliable, then it's useful for remote monitoring, etc. > > g > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From mark.saad at ymail.com Wed May 11 18:49:49 2016 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 18:49:49 -0400 Subject: [talk] Pf rule Message-ID: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> All Does anyone know how to create a rule that acts as a simple port forward . For example inbound traffic on 10.10.5.10:80 and I want to send it to 10.10.5.10:9090 . I suspect pf will not let me do this but I am unsure. --- Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com From skreuzer at exit2shell.com Wed May 11 19:13:01 2016 From: skreuzer at exit2shell.com (Steven Kreuzer) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 19:13:01 -0400 Subject: [talk] Pf rule In-Reply-To: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> References: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> Message-ID: > On May 11, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mark Saad wrote: > > All > Does anyone know how to create a rule that acts as a simple port forward . For example inbound traffic on 10.10.5.10:80 and I want to send it to 10.10.5.10:9090 . I suspect pf will not let me do this but I am unsure. pf supports traffic redirection with 'rdr'. Check out http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html for all the details but an example rule which will redirect all IPs in the redirect table that connect to port 22 on igb0 to port 2222 looks something like this rdr pass inet proto tcp from to igb0 port 22 -> port 2222 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.saad at ymail.com Wed May 11 21:07:46 2016 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 01:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [talk] Pf rule In-Reply-To: References: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> Message-ID: <963637585.932228.1463015266921.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Steven? That doesn't work, I get a pf rule set error on reload. This is on 10.3-STABLE and I suspect that FreeBSD, fork doesn't support the new rule form. Anyone know what version pf is branched off for FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE ? Is it 4.6 ? ?-- Mark Saad mark.saad at ymail.com On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:13 PM, Steven Kreuzer wrote: On May 11, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mark Saad wrote: All ?Does anyone know how to create a rule that acts as a simple port forward . For example inbound ?traffic on 10.10.5.10:80 and I want to send it to 10.10.5.10:9090 . I suspect pf will not let me do this but I am unsure. pf supports traffic redirection with 'rdr'. Check out?http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html?for all the details but ?an example rule which will redirect all IPs in the redirect table that connect to port 22 on igb0 to port 2222 looks something like this rdr pass inet proto tcp from to igb0 port 22 -> port 2222 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmb at pfsense.com Wed May 11 21:46:53 2016 From: cmb at pfsense.com (Chris Buechler) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 20:46:53 -0500 Subject: [talk] Pf rule In-Reply-To: <963637585.932228.1463015266921.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> <963637585.932228.1463015266921.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Mark Saad wrote: > Steven > That doesn't work, I get a pf rule set error on reload. This is on > 10.3-STABLE and I suspect that FreeBSD, fork doesn't support the new rule > form. In that case you want: rdr on igb0 proto tcp from any to 10.10.5.10 port 80 -> 10.10.5.10 port 9090 Make that 'rdr pass' instead if you don't want a separate pass rule required to allow the traffic. From mark.saad at ymail.com Fri May 13 20:41:14 2016 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 20:41:14 -0400 Subject: [talk] Pf rule In-Reply-To: References: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> <963637585.932228.1463015266921.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Chris That worked great , better question I have a jail hosting box; And I want to forward / nat jail hosing up 80 to jail up 8080 ? I was doing a nat and a rdr as two rules but is there a simple way ? --- Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com > On May 11, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Chris Buechler wrote: > >> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Mark Saad wrote: >> Steven >> That doesn't work, I get a pf rule set error on reload. This is on >> 10.3-STABLE and I suspect that FreeBSD, fork doesn't support the new rule >> form. > > In that case you want: > > rdr on igb0 proto tcp from any to 10.10.5.10 port 80 -> 10.10.5.10 port 9090 > > Make that 'rdr pass' instead if you don't want a separate pass rule > required to allow the traffic. From cmb at pfsense.com Mon May 16 01:27:56 2016 From: cmb at pfsense.com (Chris Buechler) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 00:27:56 -0500 Subject: [talk] Pf rule In-Reply-To: References: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> <963637585.932228.1463015266921.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Mark Saad wrote: > Chris > That worked great , better question I have a jail hosting box; And I want to forward / nat jail hosing up 80 to jail up 8080 ? > > I was doing a nat and a rdr as two rules but is there a simple way ? > You'll need both for that purpose. rdr translates the destination of traffic, 'nat on ..' translates the source of traffic. So if you want to do both, you need one of each. From kmsujit at gmail.com Wed May 18 00:59:10 2016 From: kmsujit at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 10:29:10 +0530 Subject: [talk] DVD's Message-ID: Hi All, I am facing a tricky situation with my DVD Drive's on my PC/Laptop and also my pluggable DVD Drive. It doesnot Recognize my DVD's. It there any reason for this? These are latest DVD's one is FreeBSD DVD/Cent OS DVD and Microsoft Windows 7 DVD. I have never used ad DVD before. Used only CD's. I cannot share any logs as this is during the installation process. Can share screen shots for FreeBSD. Regards, Sujit K M From kmsujit at gmail.com Wed May 18 02:25:49 2016 From: kmsujit at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 11:55:49 +0530 Subject: [talk] Pf rule In-Reply-To: References: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> <963637585.932228.1463015266921.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Mark, Am I missing something aren't firewall given a GUI to set these, web based I suppose. > I was doing a nat and a rdr as two rules but is there a simple way ? https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Adding_Rules_With_easyrule http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/other/security/security-howto/31406-build-your-own-ids-firewall-with-pfsense Regards, Sujt K M From bonsaime at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:04:57 2016 From: bonsaime at gmail.com (Jesse Callaway) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 13:04:57 -0700 Subject: [talk] DVD's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Sujit K M wrote: > Hi All, > > I am facing a tricky situation with my DVD Drive's on my > PC/Laptop and also my pluggable DVD Drive. It doesnot > Recognize my DVD's. > > It there any reason for this? These are latest DVD's one > is FreeBSD DVD/Cent OS DVD and Microsoft Windows 7 > DVD. I have never used ad DVD before. Used only CD's. > > I cannot share any logs as this is during the installation > process. Can share screen shots for FreeBSD. > > Regards, > Sujit K M > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk I'm going to guess that the dvd driver isn't loading up. Check the hardware compatibility list. -- -jesse From fire at firecrow.com Wed May 18 17:30:59 2016 From: fire at firecrow.com (fire at firecrow.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:30:59 -0400 Subject: [talk] DVD's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2016-05-18 4:04 pm, Jesse Callaway wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Sujit K M wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I am facing a tricky situation with my DVD Drive's on my >> PC/Laptop and also my pluggable DVD Drive. It doesnot >> Recognize my DVD's. >> >> It there any reason for this? These are latest DVD's one >> is FreeBSD DVD/Cent OS DVD and Microsoft Windows 7 >> DVD. I have never used ad DVD before. Used only CD's. >> >> I cannot share any logs as this is during the installation >> process. Can share screen shots for FreeBSD. >> >> Regards, >> Sujit K M >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk at lists.nycbug.org >> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > I'm going to guess that the dvd driver isn't loading up. Check the > hardware compatibility list. It's a long shot but have you entered into your system setup menu? for my asus laptop of 6 years, i press F2 as the machine initially comes up, it's different for each manufacturer. once in the setup menu you should be able to see weather or not there are options for your drive, weather your drive has been detected at all, and also what "boot" options are there at the motherboard level. ~fire fire at firecrow.com From mark.saad at ymail.com Wed May 18 17:51:42 2016 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:51:42 -0400 Subject: [talk] DVD's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On May 18, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Sujit K M wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am facing a tricky situation with my DVD Drive's on my > PC/Laptop and also my pluggable DVD Drive. It doesnot > Recognize my DVD's. > > It there any reason for this? These are latest DVD's one > is FreeBSD DVD/Cent OS DVD and Microsoft Windows 7 > DVD. I have never used ad DVD before. Used only CD's. > > I cannot share any logs as this is during the installation > process. Can share screen shots for FreeBSD. > > Regards, > Sujit K M > Is this the laptop that had the flaky wireless ? If so its time for a new box . --- Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From mark.saad at ymail.com Wed May 18 18:44:11 2016 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 18:44:11 -0400 Subject: [talk] Pf rule In-Reply-To: References: <0C352AB6-79DD-4B53-8FF5-13E3E66EFE1E@ymail.com> <963637585.932228.1463015266921.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <534330B3-0E58-4CE1-8ED4-42F00A9CC2A3@ymail.com> Sujit I was asking about pf in general ; not pfsense . --- Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com > On May 18, 2016, at 2:25 AM, Sujit K M wrote: > > Hey Mark, > > Am I missing something aren't firewall given a GUI to set these, web > based I suppose. > >> I was doing a nat and a rdr as two rules but is there a simple way ? > https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Adding_Rules_With_easyrule > http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/other/security/security-howto/31406-build-your-own-ids-firewall-with-pfsense > > Regards, > Sujt K M From kmsujit at gmail.com Thu May 19 05:20:05 2016 From: kmsujit at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 14:50:05 +0530 Subject: [talk] DVD's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> I'm going to guess that the dvd driver isn't loading up. Check the >> hardware compatibility list. Yes this is the problem only Windows 7 Seems to be complaining about a missing CD-DVD Driver. FreeBSD just core dumps after a failure with CD-DVD Drive. > > It's a long shot but have you entered into your system setup menu? > > for my asus laptop of 6 years, i press F2 as the machine initially comes up, > it's different for each manufacturer. once in the setup menu you should be I could use F2. > able to see weather or not there are options for your drive, weather your > drive has been detected at all, and also what "boot" options are there at > the motherboard level. The Drive is listed as a CD ROM with the correct Device Name i.e the CD-DVD-RW. In the diagnostic I can run test but all pass. From kmsujit at gmail.com Thu May 19 05:22:00 2016 From: kmsujit at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 14:52:00 +0530 Subject: [talk] DVD's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:21 AM, Mark Saad wrote: > > >> On May 18, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Sujit K M wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I am facing a tricky situation with my DVD Drive's on my >> PC/Laptop and also my pluggable DVD Drive. It doesnot >> Recognize my DVD's. >> >> It there any reason for this? These are latest DVD's one >> is FreeBSD DVD/Cent OS DVD and Microsoft Windows 7 >> DVD. I have never used ad DVD before. Used only CD's. >> >> I cannot share any logs as this is during the installation >> process. Can share screen shots for FreeBSD. >> >> Regards, >> Sujit K M > > Is this the laptop that had the flaky wireless ? If so its time for a new box . This is a one year old Dell Inspiron 15. I thought this will be quite sleek. > --- > Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com > >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk at lists.nycbug.org >> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > From mark.saad at ymail.com Thu May 19 09:24:53 2016 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:24:53 -0400 Subject: [talk] DVD's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > On May 19, 2016, at 5:22 AM, Sujit K M wrote: > >> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:21 AM, Mark Saad wrote: >> >> >>> On May 18, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Sujit K M wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am facing a tricky situation with my DVD Drive's on my >>> PC/Laptop and also my pluggable DVD Drive. It doesnot >>> Recognize my DVD's. >>> >>> It there any reason for this? These are latest DVD's one >>> is FreeBSD DVD/Cent OS DVD and Microsoft Windows 7 >>> DVD. I have never used ad DVD before. Used only CD's. >>> >>> I cannot share any logs as this is during the installation >>> process. Can share screen shots for FreeBSD. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sujit K M >> >> Is this the laptop that had the flaky wireless ? If so its time for a new box . > > This is a one year old Dell Inspiron 15. I thought this will be quite sleek. > >> --- >> Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com Did it come pre-installed with Windows 10 ? Also for FreeBSD did you use the uefi or plain bios version . I'de bet this laptop has some some new super dooper dell controller goodness . Also try a stable or head snapshot of FreeBSD and see how it works ? Last try another os like dragonflybsd, openbsd , Linux and see how it works . As for DVDs vs cd . To the system dvd drives look and work like cd drives with options to read denser media using a better laser ; sort of the same for blueray too . --- Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk at lists.nycbug.org >>> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >> From kmsujit at gmail.com Thu May 19 10:48:22 2016 From: kmsujit at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 20:18:22 +0530 Subject: [talk] DVD's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Mark Saad wrote: > > > > > On May 19, 2016, at 5:22 AM, Sujit K M wrote: > > > >> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:21 AM, Mark Saad wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On May 18, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Sujit K M wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I am facing a tricky situation with my DVD Drive's on my > >>> PC/Laptop and also my pluggable DVD Drive. It doesnot > >>> Recognize my DVD's. > >>> > >>> It there any reason for this? These are latest DVD's one > >>> is FreeBSD DVD/Cent OS DVD and Microsoft Windows 7 > >>> DVD. I have never used ad DVD before. Used only CD's. > >>> > >>> I cannot share any logs as this is during the installation > >>> process. Can share screen shots for FreeBSD. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Sujit K M > >> > >> Is this the laptop that had the flaky wireless ? If so its time for a new box . > > > > This is a one year old Dell Inspiron 15. I thought this will be quite sleek. > > > >> --- > >> Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com > > Did it come pre-installed with Windows 10 ? Also for FreeBSD did you use the uefi or plain bios version . I'de bet this laptop has some some new super dooper dell controller goodness . Also try a stable or head snapshot of FreeBSD and see how it works ? Last try another os like dragonflybsd, openbsd , Linux and see how it works . Actually It is not a problem with FreeBSD or Linux but with DVD Drive, installable media. I had installed Centos/Freebsd using CD. I did try uefi, but was configured initially with plain(legacy drive), but that doesn't work as it requires pxe setup. Also it was preinstalled with ubuntu 14.04. I can still install using CD, just did about a fortnight ago. > > As for DVDs vs cd . To the system dvd drives look and work like cd drives with options to read denser media using a better laser ; sort of the same for blueray too . I feel it is more a problem with DVD's, I feel it just can't be an issue with DVD Drive. I have tried multiple DVD-CD-RW drives, including an pluggable drive So now it leaves me with identifying an program to actually read the DVD on my Windows Machine, by the way on an already installed operating system it doesn't identify the DVD, be it windows or freebsd or suse. and then try and burn a DVD. or download a DVD image for FreeBSD and then burn the DVD. I will doing this over the weekend. Will let you know. > > --- > Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com > > >> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> talk mailing list > >>> talk at lists.nycbug.org > >>> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > >> > From kmsujit at gmail.com Thu May 19 12:44:59 2016 From: kmsujit at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 22:14:59 +0530 Subject: [talk] DVD's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mark, > download a DVD image for FreeBSD and then burn the DVD. I will doing > this over the weekend. Will let you know. DVD Drive Seems to now correctly recognizing the FreeBSD and Centos DVD. The trick might have been running the diagnostics test on the boot prompt. Though not some thing that can be said with 100% authority.Did succeed in Installing FreeBSD, But doesn't come in my boot menu. Centos DVD got picked up correctly but had some installer issues, could not complete the install. The problem I noticed before with the issue was, --- The installer had issues with reading the DVD after starting the install. -- Windows said No compatible DVD/CD Driver. -- FreeBSD had a coredump as it was not able to read the DVD after installation process started. --- The DVD gave repeated noise while starting the boot sequence, a repeated recursive sound. Regards, Sujit K M From pete at nomadlogic.org Mon May 23 22:54:51 2016 From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 19:54:51 -0700 Subject: [talk] FreeBSD Intel KMS/DRM Support Message-ID: Hey all, So Matt Macy on freebsd-x11@ recently posted this call for testing: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2016-May/017560.html I've been trying to help-out when I can, but it sounds like he'd benefit from having more people testing out his code. He even went as far as building a USB image to test out on your laptop. So if you have an i195 enabled desktop or laptop give it a spin :) Cheers, -pete -- Pete Wright pete at nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA From viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com Tue May 24 09:58:26 2016 From: viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com (Robert Menes) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:58:26 -0400 Subject: [talk] Debian k/FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey all, For the August installfest, can someone spare me a 2.5" IDE drive or an extra CF card for my ThinkPad? I want to install and kick around Debian k/FreeBSD on it: https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD Cheers! --Robert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mark.saad at ymail.com Mon May 30 13:50:40 2016 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:50:40 -0400 Subject: [talk] Upcoming meeting 6/15 Message-ID: All Just a heads up; no meeting this Wednesday. The next meeting will be with Shawn Webb on 6/15. 2016-06-15 - Adventures in HardenedBSD, Shawn Webb 18:45, Stone Creek Bar & Lounge: 140 E 27th St Notice: Not the usual first Wednesday Abstract This last year has been an amazing one for HardenedBSD. We're now around 1.5 years old (though our codebase has existed for longer) and we're starting to get noticed. This presentation talks about the cool things we're doing in exploit mitigation development and OPNSense integration. You'll hear where we've come from, what we're doing now, and where we'll be headed in the next year. Included will be discussions of ASLR, W^X, PIE + RELRO, and a few other lower-level tidbits in exploit mitigation development. Media Speaker Bio Shawn is a security engineer for G2, Inc. He is also the cofounder of HardenedBSD and one of its lead engineers. He was introduced into the security industry as a teenager, falling in love with both offensive and defensive security. Shawn has written tools like libhijack, which aims to make runtime process infection dead simple on Linux and FreeBSD. Now he works primarily on the defensive end, implementing exploit mitigation technologies in HardenedBSD. --- Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: