From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 10:29:57 2018 From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Pat McEvoy) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:29:57 -0400 Subject: [talk] Using separate users for different programs In-Reply-To: <20180330200551.8D291E5092@mailuser.nyi.internal> References: <20180222201701.477C07E3C5@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180224051819.E48F67E12E@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180301175559.7B0A07E4AA@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180330200551.8D291E5092@mailuser.nyi.internal> Message-ID: > On Mar 30, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Thomas Levine <_ at thomaslevine.com> wrote: > > Thomas Levine writes: >> Thomas Levine writes: >>> Then I suppose I will write my own. >>> Maybe I'll report in a few months if I wind up using it. >>> https://thomaslevine.com/scm/subdo >> >> I surprisingly find myself using it after just a few days. I hav >> e >> already ported the most worrysome of the softwares that I use of >> ten, >> and the ports have all been very short. >> >> I see no future talks scheduled; would anyone like to hear about >> this >> in April? > > Since we still don't have an April meeting, I reiterate my proposal > to discuss my privilege separation methodology. > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk Re: meeting: I have some streaming stuff I would like to practice with so I am game. If we are doing our customary first Wednesday I would need to know by this evening so I have all the gear with me tomorrow. Hope everyone is well. P From matthewstory at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 11:37:17 2018 From: matthewstory at gmail.com (Matthew Story) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:37:17 -0400 Subject: [talk] Using separate users for different programs In-Reply-To: <20180224051819.E48F67E12E@mailuser.nyi.internal> References: <20180222201701.477C07E3C5@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180224051819.E48F67E12E@mailuser.nyi.internal> Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 12:18 AM, Thomas Levine <_ at thomaslevine.com> wrote: > Then I suppose I will write my own. > Maybe I'll report in a few months if I wind up using it. > https://thomaslevine.com/scm/subdo > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > Isn't it simpler to just install to a user-specific hier and then use the setuid bit on the binary and set the owner to the de-escalated owner? -- regards, matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From _ at thomaslevine.com Tue Apr 3 11:45:18 2018 From: _ at thomaslevine.com (Thomas Levine) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:45:18 +0000 Subject: [talk] Using separate users for different programs In-Reply-To: References: <20180222201701.477C07E3C5@mailuser.nyi.internal> <20180224051819.E48F67E12E@mailuser.nyi.internal> Message-ID: <20180403154519.3EE46E50A1@mailuser.nyi.internal> Perhaps I should note that this would be an awefully short presentation that would likely move quickly to discussion; I just presented it at LibrePlanet and managed to fill only like one or two of my allotted five minutes. The discussion is entirely the reason why I want to present it, as I still don't understand why I have not seen something like subdo before. Matthew Story writes: > Isn't it simpler to just install to a user-specific hier and the > n use the > setuid bit on the binary and set the owner to the de-escalated o > wner? I thought it should be, but apparently not. I really hope that I'm missing something though. From kmsujit at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 02:58:24 2018 From: kmsujit at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:28:24 +0530 Subject: [talk] IP Addressing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> I had a use case for discussion. If I was in a network of a ISP A and >> run Youtube with a video. How much time Will it take for the Same >> Youtube application switch, I have two ISPs Connection at home, when >> I move to an ISP B. It is taking unbelievable less time for me make any sense. > > Although agreed Youtube does Buffer Video and That might be reducing I think this could be because of the servers/infrastructure youtube has in place. I know for sure we can have IP's statically assigned with ISP core infrastructure. I know for sure that we can have DHCP for the Client end. Now what happens is the ISP can use the statically allocated IP for Youtube videos. This helps in two things QoS and Limiting Network Data in the Infrastructure. On top of this Youtube can be using an Hong Kong based Server for a person in Asia. Now the IP is cached in an google.hk server and it naturally buffers its videos for this particular ISP and What the end user sees is an very fast video load time. From george at ceetonetechnology.com Mon Apr 9 13:05:40 2018 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 13:05:40 -0400 Subject: [talk] BSDCan registration is open Message-ID: <55c2b6d9-58d0-01a1-7a73-5e01564a0da6@ceetonetechnology.com> Dan says... > Hello, > > Registration for BSDCan 2018 is now open. You can register today at https://www.bsdcan.org/2018/registration.php > > As mentioned last week when the schedule ( http://www.bsdcan.org/2018/schedule/) was announced, we have a great > line up of talks, ranging from a new Unix shell to faster ZFS clone deletion, from RoCE as a performance accelerator to > SSH Key Management. There will be something for everyone, and chances are, you'll want to go to more talks than is > possible. Don't worry about such conflicts; there will be video and audio later. > > BSDCan, a BSD conference held in Ottawa, Canada, quickly established itself as the technical > conference for people working on and with 4.4BSD based operating systems and related projects. > The organizers have found a fantastic formula that appeals to a wide range of people from extreme > novices to advanced developers. > > When? > > ? Tutorials: 6-7 June 2018 (Wed/Thu) > ? Conference: 8-9 June 2018 (Fri/Sat) > > In keeping with the social aspect of the conference, BSDCan 2018 kicks off with the annual Goat BoF, > this year at The Red Lion, not far from the University of Ottawa campus. This low-key and social event > is now our lead-in to a great week of talks and tutorials Come along, meet Groff The BSD Goat (@groffthebsdgoat), > see your friends, make new friends, and have a drink and a meal. We will have the back room to ourselves, > but you are free to sit anywhere. > > Don't forget about the tutorials. We have a half-day tutorials on: > > * Ansible > * PF and networking tutorial with OpenBSD > * Writing TLS secured client and server programs using the libtls API from libressl > > We also have a full-day tutorial on BGP for non-experts. > > Don't forget about the tutorials, with a full-day talk on BGP, and half day talks on Ansible, PF and networking > tutorial with OpenBSD, & Writing TLS secured client and server programs using the libtls API from libressl. > > After the closing session (don't miss the auction), we will adjourn to the social event. Don't miss it! Be sure to sign up > when you register online. > > We have a great conference lined up. See you there. > > > Thanks to our sponsors > > iXsystems - https://www.ixsystems.com/ > Tarsnap - http://www.tarsnap.com/ > The FreeBSD Foundation - https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ > Verisign/vBSDCon - https://www.vbsdcon.com/ > Mellanox - http://www.mellanox.com/ > ScaleEngine - https://www.scaleengine.com/ > HardenedBSD - https://hardenedbsd.org/ > NetBSD - http://www.netbsd.org/ > > Follow us: > > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+BsdcanOrg > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=272755641371 > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bsdcan From jkeenan at pobox.com Tue Apr 10 09:27:10 2018 From: jkeenan at pobox.com (James E Keenan) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:27:10 -0400 Subject: [talk] Why am I no longer able to install FreeBSD packages? Message-ID: <1589153b-e635-590b-eff2-4faaf2fd4b5a@pobox.com> Background: Since October 2016 I have run FreeBSD-11.0 in a VMWare VM (currently, VMWare Workstation 14 Player). Broadly speaking, I've used this almost entirely for QA purposes for Perl 5. I've gotten comfortable installing packages, mainly via 'pkg' but sometimes via 'make install' in the ports tree. And since Brian Callahan's talk at NYCBUG in January I've had ports accepted in both FreeBSD and OpenBSD.* But in the last week, whenever I try to use 'pkg' to install libraries on FreeBSD, I am likely to get a message like this: ##### $ sudo pkg install shared-mime-info Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 6 MiB 3.2MB/s 00:02 Processing entries: 0% pkg: Newer FreeBSD version for package libxfce4util: - package: 1101001 - running kernel: 1100122 pkg: repository FreeBSD contains packages for wrong OS version: FreeBSD:11:amd64 Processing entries: 100% Unable to update repository FreeBSD Error updating repositories! ##### Now, I have the feeling that this is related to the age of my version of FreeBSD.** I have spent hours doing internet searches on these message, have called 'pkg clear -a' repeatedly as per the results of those searches yet still experienced this problem. But I confess I do not understand FreeBSD's release cycle at all. So here are my questions: Questions: * What exactly is "wrong" about my OS? * Did that "wrong" status come into being on some specific date (e.g., April 1)? * What configuration files on my system do I need to examine to get data on this situation? * Can I change those configuration files to say, in effect, "Don't worry about 11.1 ports; continue to direct me to 11.0 ports"? * If not, is my FreeBSD-11.0 installation now basically hopeless when it comes to installing packages? * If that is the case, can I upgrade to 11.1 within the VM -- and what risks would that entail? Thank you very much. Jim Keenan Footnotes: ##### $ uname -mrs FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 amd64 ##### *Sadly, my OpenBSD VM crashed several weeks ago, so for now I'm focusing on FreeBSD. **Prior to Brian's talk in January, I had an OpenBSD-5.9 VM. I tried to obtain the ports tree for that and found that it had been removed from the Internet. I was told that OpenBSD only maintains the tree for two versions (then 6.1 and 6.2) at any point in time. Does something similar pertain for FreeBSD? From george at ceetonetechnology.com Tue Apr 10 09:38:50 2018 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:38:50 -0400 Subject: [talk] Why am I no longer able to install FreeBSD packages? In-Reply-To: <1589153b-e635-590b-eff2-4faaf2fd4b5a@pobox.com> References: <1589153b-e635-590b-eff2-4faaf2fd4b5a@pobox.com> Message-ID: <66d3b080-afb9-3fe4-f066-4d960453f61a@ceetonetechnology.com> On 04/10/18 09:27, James E Keenan wrote: > Background: > > Since October 2016 I have run FreeBSD-11.0 in a VMWare VM (currently, > VMWare Workstation 14 Player).? Broadly speaking, I've used this almost > entirely for QA purposes for Perl 5.? I've gotten comfortable installing > packages, mainly via 'pkg' but sometimes via 'make install' in the ports > tree.? And since Brian Callahan's talk at NYCBUG in January I've had > ports accepted in both FreeBSD and OpenBSD.* > > But in the last week, whenever I try to use 'pkg' to install libraries > on FreeBSD, I am likely to get a message like this: > > ##### > $ sudo pkg install shared-mime-info > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > Fetching meta.txz: 100%?? 944 B?? 0.9kB/s??? 00:01 > Fetching packagesite.txz:? 100%??? 6 MiB?? 3.2MB/s??? 00:02 > Processing entries:?? 0% > pkg: Newer FreeBSD version for package libxfce4util: > - package: 1101001 > - running kernel: 1100122 > pkg: repository FreeBSD contains packages for wrong OS version: > FreeBSD:11:amd64 > Processing entries: 100% > Unable to update repository FreeBSD > Error updating repositories! > ##### > > Now, I have the feeling that this is related to the age of my version of > FreeBSD.**? I have spent hours doing internet searches on these message, > have called 'pkg clear -a' repeatedly as per the results of those > searches yet still experienced this problem.? But I confess I do not > understand FreeBSD's release cycle at all.? So here are my questions: > > Questions: > > * What exactly is "wrong" about my OS? freebsd-update -r 11.1 Probably since 11.0 Release is done? https://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup > > * Did that "wrong" status come into being on some specific date (e.g., > April 1)? > > * What configuration files on my system do I need to examine to get data > on this situation? > > * Can I change those configuration files to say, in effect, "Don't worry > about 11.1 ports; continue to direct me to 11.0 ports"? > > * If not, is my FreeBSD-11.0 installation now basically hopeless when it > comes to installing packages? > > * If that is the case, can I upgrade to 11.1 within the VM -- and what > risks would that entail? > HTH g > Footnotes: > > ##### > $ uname -mrs > FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 amd64 > ##### > > *Sadly, my OpenBSD VM crashed several weeks ago, so for now I'm focusing > on FreeBSD. > > **Prior to Brian's talk in January, I had an OpenBSD-5.9 VM.? I tried to > obtain the ports tree for that and found that it had been removed from > the Internet.? I was told that OpenBSD only maintains the tree for two > versions (then 6.1 and 6.2) at any point in time.? Does something > similar pertain for FreeBSD? > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From shawn.webb at hardenedbsd.org Tue Apr 10 10:57:42 2018 From: shawn.webb at hardenedbsd.org (Shawn Webb) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 10:57:42 -0400 Subject: [talk] Why am I no longer able to install FreeBSD packages? In-Reply-To: <1589153b-e635-590b-eff2-4faaf2fd4b5a@pobox.com> References: <1589153b-e635-590b-eff2-4faaf2fd4b5a@pobox.com> Message-ID: <20180410145742.tfn5yqkhdsskteq4@mutt-hbsd> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 09:27:10AM -0400, James E Keenan wrote: > Background: > > Since October 2016 I have run FreeBSD-11.0 in a VMWare VM (currently, VMWare > Workstation 14 Player). Broadly speaking, I've used this almost entirely > for QA purposes for Perl 5. I've gotten comfortable installing packages, > mainly via 'pkg' but sometimes via 'make install' in the ports tree. And > since Brian Callahan's talk at NYCBUG in January I've had ports accepted in > both FreeBSD and OpenBSD.* > > But in the last week, whenever I try to use 'pkg' to install libraries on > FreeBSD, I am likely to get a message like this: > > ##### > $ sudo pkg install shared-mime-info > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 > Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 6 MiB 3.2MB/s 00:02 > Processing entries: 0% > pkg: Newer FreeBSD version for package libxfce4util: > - package: 1101001 > - running kernel: 1100122 > pkg: repository FreeBSD contains packages for wrong OS version: > FreeBSD:11:amd64 > Processing entries: 100% > Unable to update repository FreeBSD > Error updating repositories! > ##### > > Now, I have the feeling that this is related to the age of my version of > FreeBSD.** I have spent hours doing internet searches on these message, > have called 'pkg clear -a' repeatedly as per the results of those searches > yet still experienced this problem. But I confess I do not understand > FreeBSD's release cycle at all. So here are my questions: > > Questions: > > * What exactly is "wrong" about my OS? > > * Did that "wrong" status come into being on some specific date (e.g., April > 1)? > > * What configuration files on my system do I need to examine to get data on > this situation? > > * Can I change those configuration files to say, in effect, "Don't worry > about 11.1 ports; continue to direct me to 11.0 ports"? > > * If not, is my FreeBSD-11.0 installation now basically hopeless when it > comes to installing packages? > > * If that is the case, can I upgrade to 11.1 within the VM -- and what risks > would that entail? Hey Jim, We've been hit with this pretty hard in HardenedBSD. FreeBSD introduced a new feature in pkg(8) that places a guard when your system's KBI is older than the KBI of the package build. FreeBSD now wants to enforce updating the base OS prior to updating installed packages. `uname -K` will tell you what version the kernel is at. So, these are the steps you'll need to take to update: 1. Update base (either via src compile or freebsd-update, whichever you prefer) 2. reboot 3. pkg clean -y 4. pkg update -f 5. pkg upgrade With HardenedBSD being more of a "rolling release" type of experience, we hit this feature a lot. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks, -- Shawn Webb Cofounder and Security Engineer HardenedBSD Tor-ified Signal: +1 443-546-8752 Tor+XMPP+OTR: lattera at is.a.hacker.sx GPG Key ID: 0x6A84658F52456EEE GPG Key Fingerprint: 2ABA B6BD EF6A F486 BE89 3D9E 6A84 658F 5245 6EEE -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jkeenan at pobox.com Tue Apr 10 11:05:25 2018 From: jkeenan at pobox.com (James E Keenan) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 11:05:25 -0400 Subject: [talk] Why am I no longer able to install FreeBSD packages? In-Reply-To: <20180410145742.tfn5yqkhdsskteq4@mutt-hbsd> References: <1589153b-e635-590b-eff2-4faaf2fd4b5a@pobox.com> <20180410145742.tfn5yqkhdsskteq4@mutt-hbsd> Message-ID: On 04/10/2018 10:57 AM, Shawn Webb wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 09:27:10AM -0400, James E Keenan wrote: >> Background: >> >> Since October 2016 I have run FreeBSD-11.0 in a VMWare VM (currently, VMWare >> Workstation 14 Player). Broadly speaking, I've used this almost entirely >> for QA purposes for Perl 5. I've gotten comfortable installing packages, >> mainly via 'pkg' but sometimes via 'make install' in the ports tree. And >> since Brian Callahan's talk at NYCBUG in January I've had ports accepted in >> both FreeBSD and OpenBSD.* >> >> But in the last week, whenever I try to use 'pkg' to install libraries on >> FreeBSD, I am likely to get a message like this: >> >> ##### >> $ sudo pkg install shared-mime-info >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 6 MiB 3.2MB/s 00:02 >> Processing entries: 0% >> pkg: Newer FreeBSD version for package libxfce4util: >> - package: 1101001 >> - running kernel: 1100122 >> pkg: repository FreeBSD contains packages for wrong OS version: >> FreeBSD:11:amd64 >> Processing entries: 100% >> Unable to update repository FreeBSD >> Error updating repositories! >> ##### >> >> Now, I have the feeling that this is related to the age of my version of >> FreeBSD.** I have spent hours doing internet searches on these message, >> have called 'pkg clear -a' repeatedly as per the results of those searches >> yet still experienced this problem. But I confess I do not understand >> FreeBSD's release cycle at all. So here are my questions: >> >> Questions: >> >> * What exactly is "wrong" about my OS? >> >> * Did that "wrong" status come into being on some specific date (e.g., April >> 1)? >> >> * What configuration files on my system do I need to examine to get data on >> this situation? >> >> * Can I change those configuration files to say, in effect, "Don't worry >> about 11.1 ports; continue to direct me to 11.0 ports"? >> >> * If not, is my FreeBSD-11.0 installation now basically hopeless when it >> comes to installing packages? >> >> * If that is the case, can I upgrade to 11.1 within the VM -- and what risks >> would that entail? > > Hey Jim, > > We've been hit with this pretty hard in HardenedBSD. FreeBSD > introduced a new feature in pkg(8) that places a guard when your > system's KBI is older than the KBI of the package build. FreeBSD now > wants to enforce updating the base OS prior to updating installed > packages. > > `uname -K` will tell you what version the kernel is at. > > So, these are the steps you'll need to take to update: > > 1. Update base (either via src compile or freebsd-update, whichever > you prefer) > 2. reboot Thanks for the response, Shawn. Per George's earlier response, I ventured where I had never gone before: 'sudo freebsd-update -r 11.1 upgrade'. It appears to have completed successfully, though I found the "rebuild all 3rd-party software (e.g., ports)' instruction confusing, as I couldn't recall what I had built specifically through ports/. For the next couple of hours, I'll be making sure that the applications I typically run in this VM are performing as expected. Then I'll get back to work on the ports tree pursuant to your following instructions. > 3. pkg clean -y > 4. pkg update -f > 5. pkg upgrade > > With HardenedBSD being more of a "rolling release" type of experience, > we hit this feature a lot. > > Let me know if you have any other questions. > > Thanks, > From jkeenan at pobox.com Tue Apr 10 13:55:20 2018 From: jkeenan at pobox.com (James E Keenan) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:55:20 -0400 Subject: [talk] Why am I no longer able to install FreeBSD packages? In-Reply-To: <20180410145742.tfn5yqkhdsskteq4@mutt-hbsd> References: <1589153b-e635-590b-eff2-4faaf2fd4b5a@pobox.com> <20180410145742.tfn5yqkhdsskteq4@mutt-hbsd> Message-ID: On 04/10/2018 10:57 AM, Shawn Webb wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 09:27:10AM -0400, James E Keenan wrote: >> Background: >> >> Since October 2016 I have run FreeBSD-11.0 in a VMWare VM (currently, VMWare >> Workstation 14 Player). Broadly speaking, I've used this almost entirely >> for QA purposes for Perl 5. I've gotten comfortable installing packages, >> mainly via 'pkg' but sometimes via 'make install' in the ports tree. And >> since Brian Callahan's talk at NYCBUG in January I've had ports accepted in >> both FreeBSD and OpenBSD.* >> >> But in the last week, whenever I try to use 'pkg' to install libraries on >> FreeBSD, I am likely to get a message like this: >> >> ##### >> $ sudo pkg install shared-mime-info >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> Fetching meta.txz: 100% 944 B 0.9kB/s 00:01 >> Fetching packagesite.txz: 100% 6 MiB 3.2MB/s 00:02 >> Processing entries: 0% >> pkg: Newer FreeBSD version for package libxfce4util: >> - package: 1101001 >> - running kernel: 1100122 >> pkg: repository FreeBSD contains packages for wrong OS version: >> FreeBSD:11:amd64 >> Processing entries: 100% >> Unable to update repository FreeBSD >> Error updating repositories! >> ##### >> >> Now, I have the feeling that this is related to the age of my version of >> FreeBSD.** I have spent hours doing internet searches on these message, >> have called 'pkg clear -a' repeatedly as per the results of those searches >> yet still experienced this problem. But I confess I do not understand >> FreeBSD's release cycle at all. So here are my questions: >> >> Questions: >> >> * What exactly is "wrong" about my OS? >> >> * Did that "wrong" status come into being on some specific date (e.g., April >> 1)? >> >> * What configuration files on my system do I need to examine to get data on >> this situation? >> >> * Can I change those configuration files to say, in effect, "Don't worry >> about 11.1 ports; continue to direct me to 11.0 ports"? >> >> * If not, is my FreeBSD-11.0 installation now basically hopeless when it >> comes to installing packages? >> >> * If that is the case, can I upgrade to 11.1 within the VM -- and what risks >> would that entail? > > Hey Jim, > > We've been hit with this pretty hard in HardenedBSD. FreeBSD > introduced a new feature in pkg(8) that places a guard when your > system's KBI is older than the KBI of the package build. FreeBSD now > wants to enforce updating the base OS prior to updating installed > packages. > > `uname -K` will tell you what version the kernel is at. > > So, these are the steps you'll need to take to update: > > 1. Update base (either via src compile or freebsd-update, whichever > you prefer) > 2. reboot > 3. pkg clean -y > 4. pkg update -f > 5. pkg upgrade > Wow! Watching 'pkg upgrade' do its thing is truly impressive. (Not least of which is watching my own ports getting installed!) Thanks. jimk From jkeenan at pobox.com Tue Apr 24 09:35:16 2018 From: jkeenan at pobox.com (James E Keenan) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:35:16 -0400 Subject: [talk] Social meeting on Wed May 2? Message-ID: Since it appears that we will not be having a technical meeting on the first Wednesday in May, I propose that, as we have done a couple of times in the last year, to have a social meeting: Suspenders 108 Greenwich St (north of Rector St; south of WTC) #1, R, W to Rector St; #4, 5 to Wall ST Wednesday, May 2, 6:30 pm or so. Thank you very much. Jim Keenan From george at ceetonetechnology.com Tue Apr 24 09:43:00 2018 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:43:00 +0000 Subject: [talk] Social meeting on Wed May 2? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55ac40d1-bb19-f6e4-71d2-9acf9f45936f@ceetonetechnology.com> James E Keenan: > Since it appears that we will not be having a technical meeting on the > first Wednesday in May, I propose that, as we have done a couple of > times in the last year, to have a social meeting: > > Suspenders > 108 Greenwich St > (north of Rector St; south of WTC) > #1, R, W to Rector St; #4, 5 to Wall ST > > Wednesday, May 2, 6:30 pm or so. I can hit announce@ about this.. but not sure if I can personally make it. g From viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 11:27:33 2018 From: viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com (Robert Menes) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:27:33 -0400 Subject: [talk] Social meeting on Wed May 2? In-Reply-To: <55ac40d1-bb19-f6e4-71d2-9acf9f45936f@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <55ac40d1-bb19-f6e4-71d2-9acf9f45936f@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: I might be able to do this. Don't mind a beer or two. On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:43 AM, George Rosamond < george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote: > > > James E Keenan: > > Since it appears that we will not be having a technical meeting on the > > first Wednesday in May, I propose that, as we have done a couple of > > times in the last year, to have a social meeting: > > > > Suspenders > > 108 Greenwich St > > (north of Rector St; south of WTC) > > #1, R, W to Rector St; #4, 5 to Wall ST > > > > Wednesday, May 2, 6:30 pm or so. > > I can hit announce@ about this.. but not sure if I can personally make it. > > g > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > -- Nobody's ever lost in life...they're merely taking the scenic route. ============================== Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. 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URL: From wcblawoffices at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 12:55:33 2018 From: wcblawoffices at gmail.com (William Brown) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:55:33 -0400 Subject: [talk] talk Digest, Vol 171, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, Please register for an account at TraderBrokerage.com. http://traderbrokerage.com/register.html Thank you, Bill - manager w: shmanagement.org On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > Send talk mailing list submissions to > talk at lists.nycbug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-request at lists.nycbug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-owner at lists.nycbug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Social meeting on Wed May 2? (James E Keenan) > 2. 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(Robert Menes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:35:16 -0400 > From: James E Keenan > To: talk at lists.nycbug.org > Subject: [talk] Social meeting on Wed May 2? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Since it appears that we will not be having a technical meeting on the > first Wednesday in May, I propose that, as we have done a couple of > times in the last year, to have a social meeting: > > Suspenders > 108 Greenwich St > (north of Rector St; south of WTC) > #1, R, W to Rector St; #4, 5 to Wall ST > > Wednesday, May 2, 6:30 pm or so. > > Thank you very much. > Jim Keenan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:43:00 +0000 > From: George Rosamond > To: talk at lists.nycbug.org > Subject: Re: [talk] Social meeting on Wed May 2? > Message-ID: > <55ac40d1-bb19-f6e4-71d2-9acf9f45936f at ceetonetechnology.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > James E Keenan: > > Since it appears that we will not be having a technical meeting on the > > first Wednesday in May, I propose that, as we have done a couple of > > times in the last year, to have a social meeting: > > > > Suspenders > > 108 Greenwich St > > (north of Rector St; south of WTC) > > #1, R, W to Rector St; #4, 5 to Wall ST > > > > Wednesday, May 2, 6:30 pm or so. > > I can hit announce@ about this.. but not sure if I can personally make it. > > g > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:27:33 -0400 > From: Robert Menes > To: George Rosamond > Cc: NYCBUG > Subject: Re: [talk] Social meeting on Wed May 2? > Message-ID: > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I might be able to do this. Don't mind a beer or two. > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:43 AM, George Rosamond < > george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote: > > > > > > > James E Keenan: > > > Since it appears that we will not be having a technical meeting on the > > > first Wednesday in May, I propose that, as we have done a couple of > > > times in the last year, to have a social meeting: > > > > > > Suspenders > > > 108 Greenwich St > > > (north of Rector St; south of WTC) > > > #1, R, W to Rector St; #4, 5 to Wall ST > > > > > > Wednesday, May 2, 6:30 pm or so. > > > > I can hit announce@ about this.. but not sure if I can personally make > it. > > > > g > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk mailing list > > talk at lists.nycbug.org > > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > > > -- > Nobody's ever lost in life...they're merely taking the scenic route. > ============================== > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > ============================== > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1.2 > GCS/S/M/MU d- s+: a38 C++(+++) UL++++>$ P++ L+++ E+ W+ N+ o+ K++ w--- O- > M !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP(+) t+ 5++ X++ R tv b+++ DI+++ D++(---) G++ e+ h- > r++ y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: 20180424/05d5f8f2/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > ------------------------------ > > End of talk Digest, Vol 171, Issue 5 > ************************************ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 13:38:28 2018 From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Pat McEvoy) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:38:28 -0400 Subject: [talk] Social meeting on Wed May 2? In-Reply-To: References: <55ac40d1-bb19-f6e4-71d2-9acf9f45936f@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: > On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Robert Menes wrote: > > I might be able to do this. Don't mind a beer or two. > >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:43 AM, George Rosamond wrote: >> >> >> James E Keenan: >> > Since it appears that we will not be having a technical meeting on the >> > first Wednesday in May, I propose that, as we have done a couple of >> > times in the last year, to have a social meeting: >> > >> > Suspenders >> > 108 Greenwich St >> > (north of Rector St; south of WTC) >> > #1, R, W to Rector St; #4, 5 to Wall ST >> > >> > Wednesday, May 2, 6:30 pm or so. >> >> I can hit announce@ about this.. but not sure if I can personally make it. >> >> g >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk at liststalk.nycbug.org >> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > -- > I?ll should be there. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: