From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Jan  3 21:47:49 2023
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 21:47:49 -0500
Subject: [talk] upcoming BSDCons and more
Message-ID: <b50b6287-ec2d-5191-c4d1-9fb3be85c1ee@ceetonetechnology.com>

AsiaBSDCon and BSDCan CFPs are online.. both are happening in the first
half of the year, and I strongly recommend people looking into them.

Since these are potentially the first "post-COVID" cons, it's well worth
planning now to attend both/either. There's a lot of time to make up for
obviously, and online just doesn't do it.

I think the CFP is closed for AsiaBSDCon, but I believe the CFP for
BSDCan is still open.

Also, open a separate thread if anyone wants to propose a live,
in-person NYC*BUG meeting for the coming months. We don't (yet) have
space for it, but it's vital we start getting the wheel moving again.

I'm frankly fed-up with just chatting with people online... as I'm sure
many of you also are.

g



From viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com  Mon Jan  9 14:07:35 2023
From: viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com (Robert Menes)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 14:07:35 -0500
Subject: [talk] NetBSD/evbarm on Raspberry Pis
Message-ID: <CA+TaHT0onRXT7AN=DMnToDBzEVrWgQW8CeiFgsxW5Ch_TQA8MQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone!

I wanna give NetBSD another try on one of my spare Raspberry Pis, and I
have one using a PiTFT+ (a little 3.5" screen connected via the GPIO pins),
and a SmartyPi 2 case with a Pi 4 in it (with the display on the onboard
connector).

Has anyone used a connected screen on a Pi with NetBSD? I know external
displays via HDMI work, but a small, portable deck with the screen hooked
via the display connector or GPIO is way cleaner and easier to lug around.

Hope everyone is well, and hoping we can start doing in-person meets again,
even if it's just for food and drink.

--Robert
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From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Wed Jan 11 22:17:54 2023
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 22:17:54 -0500
Subject: [talk] IPv6, Fios...
Message-ID: <533F45B9-CDE9-4143-992D-7CC62CA16F3C@blackskyresearch.net>

Hey All,

After too many years, something cool happened today:

After an afternoon of diagnosing Verizon Fios home internet connectivity issues, (upstream DHCP lease sticking problems), I finally got around to wiping my home opnsense router configs, after years of upgrades/backups/cumulative-change...

Not only did I get a new IPv4 lease once things stabilized, (meh), but I got full IPv6 connectivity, (DHCP6, incidentally the latest OpnSense build, default config).

I'm exhasperated after the long-overdue cleanup, yet overjoyed, grinning ear to ear, watching the kame.net turtle finally *swimming* :)
https://www.kame.net/

Best,
.ike




From bcully at gmail.com  Thu Jan 12 09:15:05 2023
From: bcully at gmail.com (Brian Cully)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:15:05 -0500
Subject: [talk] IPv6, Fios...
Message-ID: <840BF574-3E08-4CF7-A29A-3936A55D32D8@gmail.com>

?
"Isaac (.ike) Levy" <ike at blackskyresearch.net> writes:

> Not only did I get a new IPv4 lease once things stabilized, (meh), but I got full IPv6 connectivity, (DHCP6, incidentally the latest OpnSense build, default config).

Has Cogent come around and finally started peering with Hurricane Electric? I had to turn off my HE tunnel (after almost 15 years) because IPv6 connectivity had become so bad as a result of their dispute. If nothing?s changed in the mean-time, you may end up finding v6 significantly worse than v4.

Enjoy your parade, though. ;)

-bjc



From nonesuch at longcount.org  Thu Jan 19 18:34:09 2023
From: nonesuch at longcount.org (Mark Saad)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:34:09 -0500
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All 
  George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug ! https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share a story about their first meeting. 

The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.

---
Mark Saad | nonesuch at longcount.org
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From edlinuxguru at gmail.com  Thu Jan 19 19:25:38 2023
From: edlinuxguru at gmail.com (Edward Capriolo)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 19:25:38 -0500
Subject: [talk] 
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 6:34 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:

> All
>   George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug !
> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share
> a story about their first meeting.
>
> The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It
> was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
>
> ---
> Mark Saad | nonesuch at longcount.org
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> https://lists.nycbug.org:8443/mailman/listinfo/talk


I think I went to a meeting with a guy who maintained the random number
generator. It could have been a different unix group.

At the time I didnt know how to set my ip/mask and gateway.

Since then I have figured 2 out of 3.

>
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From bonsaime at gmail.com  Fri Jan 20 00:32:40 2023
From: bonsaime at gmail.com (Jesse Callaway)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 21:32:40 -0800
Subject: [talk] 
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:34 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:

> All
>   George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug !
> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share
> a story about their first meeting.
>
> The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It
> was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
>
> ---
> Mark Saad | nonesuch at longcount.org
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> https://lists.nycbug.org:8443/mailman/listinfo/talk


> I forget what office building it was, maybe PWC, we had standing room only
in a small conference room. The presentation was about encrypting a whole
disk. The presenter had his laptop secured this way and we were all quite
impressed, but I had doubts that it was practical for daily use.

-jesse
-- 
-jesse
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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Fri Jan 20 11:29:33 2023
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:29:33 -0500
Subject: [talk] 
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References: <388809B2-6143-40CB-B974-69A0A9F7C67B@longcount.org>
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On 1/19/23 19:25, Edward Capriolo wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023, 6:34 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:
> 
>> All
>>   George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug !
>> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share
>> a story about their first meeting.
>>
>> The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It
>> was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
>>
>> ---
>> Mark Saad | nonesuch at longcount.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> talk mailing list
>> talk at lists.nycbug.org
>> https://lists.nycbug.org:8443/mailman/listinfo/talk
> 
> 
> I think I went to a meeting with a guy who maintained the random number
> generator. It could have been a different unix group.
> 
> At the time I didnt know how to set my ip/mask and gateway.
> 
> Since then I have figured 2 out of 3.

:)

It might have been this one?

https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10346

g



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Fri Jan 20 11:31:39 2023
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:31:39 -0500
Subject: [talk] 
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On 1/20/23 00:32, Jesse Callaway wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:34 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:
> 
>> All
>>   George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug !
>> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share
>> a story about their first meeting.
>>
>> The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It
>> was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
>>
>> ---
>> Mark Saad | nonesuch at longcount.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> talk mailing list
>> talk at lists.nycbug.org
>> https://lists.nycbug.org:8443/mailman/listinfo/talk
> 
> 
>> I forget what office building it was, maybe PWC, we had standing room only
> in a small conference room. The presentation was about encrypting a whole
> disk. The presenter had his laptop secured this way and we were all quite
> impressed, but I had doubts that it was practical for daily use.

Rolland on cgd...

https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00020

There was something about that meeting that I wish we could do more of...

Presentation + white paper.

We have tried to bridge the research/academia to the practical a few
times, and it was worthwhile.

g



From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Fri Jan 20 12:59:00 2023
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:59:00 -0500
Subject: [talk] 
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As usual, I'm a little late to the thread-

And after 19 years, BSD UNIX is *still* apparently dead,

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 11:31 AM, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
> 
> On 1/20/23 00:32, Jesse Callaway wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:34 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> All
>>>  George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug !
>>> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share
>>> a story about their first meeting.
>>> 
>>> The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It
>>> was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Mark Saad | nonesuch at longcount.org
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> talk mailing list
>>> talk at lists.nycbug.org
>>> https://lists.nycbug.org:8443/mailman/listinfo/talk
>> 
>> 
>>> I forget what office building it was, maybe PWC, we had standing room only
>> in a small conference room. The presentation was about encrypting a whole
>> disk. The presenter had his laptop secured this way and we were all quite
>> impressed, but I had doubts that it was practical for daily use.
> 
> Rolland on cgd...
> 
> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00020

I just saw the page says:
"Ike is in the process of getting the video online"

I certainly remember this meeting, but I do not remember making a video of this meeting.

> There was something about that meeting that I wish we could do more of...
> 
> Presentation + white paper.
> 
> We have tried to bridge the research/academia to the practical a few
> times, and it was worthwhile.

Agreed- a fellowship of practictioner and academic perspectives, raising glasses.

--
My First NYC*BUG meeting?

Winter 2003(?) I remember I had just met my first other BSD person in real life- George, at the final NYC Linuxworld expo.  (I went just to ask Eric S Raymond to sign my copy of his book.)

So to me, the first NYC*BUG meeting, wasn't a NYC*BUG meeting at all- it was a collection of all the wild/diverse Linux/UNIX user groups that existed in NYC at the time.  It was this thing George and some others had corralled together in the vaccum of LinuxWorld moving to Boston.

User goups came togehter to form a sort of "Open Source Council", and IT WAS QUITE THE HOT MESS of a meeting.  A dozen user groups that couldn't agree on *anything*, all with comparable expressive ability to snipe at each other.  Not even a basic name to refer to what we were doing could be agreed on, nobody could agree on using the words "free" or "open".  I remember vicious debate about these words, some yelling even.
I went to that meeting representing LESMUUG, (Lower East Side Mac UNIX Users Group), and I remember someone from the "GNU-bees" who would not even shake my hand because "That's not free software". In retrospect, it was an amazing experience.  After 2 or 3 omore of these meetings, this fizzled out...

A few folks left there resolved to just go focus on the BSD thing, and I guess my first *real* NYC*BUG meeting was also my first real introduction to OpenBSD,
https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00021

--
I remember thinking to myself back then, "Wow, real BSD people operate at a level of rigor I'll never be able to keep up with".
NYC*BUG changed all of that for me by making an environment where everyone got to see how *all* the sausage was made.  A group where deep respect for dumb questions or wacky ideas never supplanted rigor.  Just because someone didn't know how to mount an ms-dos formatted usb stick on any *NIX, didn't mean they may not have deep knowledge to share of relevant TCP stack kernel internals.  Or, vice-versa.

Somewhere in there, NYC*BUG holiday parties became the best fulfillment of that original "Open Source Groups Council" intent- (while organizing the holiday parties nearly killed everyone involved).

In this sort of enviornment, it wasn't long before I found myself being pushed to present and share, and somewhere in the last 20 years, we all became one of these "BSD people" without ever realizing how or when or even why.

And with that, BSD appears more alive than ever :)

Best,
.ike





From pete at nomadlogic.org  Fri Jan 20 13:44:17 2023
From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 10:44:17 -0800
Subject: [talk] 
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On 1/19/23 15:34, Mark Saad wrote:
> All
> ? George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug ! 
> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 
> <https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022>?. Anyone want to 
> share a story about their first meeting.
>

I clearly remember the LinuxWorld meeting - well clearly remember 
attending it but not much else lol.

the one that really stood out to me in the "early" days was the 
consulting meeting at TekServe:
https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00018

at some point there was discussion about how much money people are able 
to make as consultants and i was *gobsmacked* - i think i even elbowed 
jesse in disbelief - when i saw that people were actually making a 
living doing this stuff.

and while all the meetings I was able to attend where awesome, my 
fondest memories usually were the discussions afterwards over drinks 
talking story.

-pete


-- 
Pete Wright
pete at nomadlogic.org
@nomadlogicLA



From bob at redivi.com  Fri Jan 20 13:56:18 2023
From: bob at redivi.com (Bob Ippolito)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 10:56:18 -0800
Subject: [talk] 
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:35 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:

> All
>   George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug !
> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share
> a story about their first meeting.
>
> The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It
> was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
>

My memory of those meetings is not so clear, the fun we had after most of
them certainly contributed to that :) I definitely went to the one with Ike
that we both presented at! :)
https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00017

The nycbug/lesmuug days were wonderful. While I have mostly forgotten the
meetings I'll never forget the people or our adventures (e.g. BSDCan)! One
of these days hopefully I'll be able to drop by another one if I happen to
be in town again.

-bob
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From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Fri Jan 20 14:12:03 2023
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 14:12:03 -0500
Subject: [talk] 
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Hi Bob!

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Bob Ippolito <bob at redivi.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:35 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:
> All 
>   George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug ! https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share a story about their first meeting. 
> 
> The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
> 
> My memory of those meetings is not so clear, the fun we had after most of them certainly contributed to that :) I definitely went to the one with Ike that we both presented at! :) https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00017
> 
> The nycbug/lesmuug days were wonderful. While I have mostly forgotten the meetings I'll never forget the people or our adventures (e.g. BSDCan)! One of these days hopefully I'll be able to drop by another one if I happen to be in town again.
> 
> -bob

When you're back in town- remind me that I still have a firewire cable you loaned me once in a pinch, been in my backback this whole time.

Rocket-
.ike




From arielsanchezmora at gmail.com  Fri Jan 20 23:54:30 2023
From: arielsanchezmora at gmail.com (Ariel Sanchez Mora)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 23:54:30 -0500
Subject: [talk] 
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Honestly I came very late and very green - but I'll never forget a few
things:

1) that's the guy that wrote the bash shell! right there!! I think I even
brought my wife XD
2) there was no sponsor! everyone grabbed a beer/burger and we all stayed a
while and grabbed a drink and paid our own or someone else's. Coming mostly
from sponsored user groups, that was refreshing more than anything else
3) this was a real _user_ group where everyone that came was interested in
hearing, learning and sharing with each other

I've been very happy being at least on the mailing list, even if I moved
out of NYC a while ago. To many more years!

best,

Ariel Sanchez Mora

"The best way out is always through."*?Robert Frost*


On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:12 PM Isaac (.ike) Levy <ike at blackskyresearch.net>
wrote:

> Hi Bob!
>
> > On Jan 20, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Bob Ippolito <bob at redivi.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:35 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org>
> wrote:
> > All
> >   George reminded me it?s been 19 years of nyc bug !
> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share
> a story about their first meeting.
> >
> > The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It
> was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
> >
> > My memory of those meetings is not so clear, the fun we had after most
> of them certainly contributed to that :) I definitely went to the one with
> Ike that we both presented at! :)
> https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00017
> >
> > The nycbug/lesmuug days were wonderful. While I have mostly forgotten
> the meetings I'll never forget the people or our adventures (e.g. BSDCan)!
> One of these days hopefully I'll be able to drop by another one if I happen
> to be in town again.
> >
> > -bob
>
> When you're back in town- remind me that I still have a firewire cable you
> loaned me once in a pinch, been in my backback this whole time.
>
> Rocket-
> .ike
>
>
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From me at jtm.cx  Sat Jan 21 12:19:42 2023
From: me at jtm.cx (John Murphy)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 12:19:42 -0500
Subject: [talk] NetBSD/evbarm on Raspberry Pis
In-Reply-To: <CA+TaHT0onRXT7AN=DMnToDBzEVrWgQW8CeiFgsxW5Ch_TQA8MQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+TaHT0onRXT7AN=DMnToDBzEVrWgQW8CeiFgsxW5Ch_TQA8MQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20230121121942.224b30bb@x1c>

> Has anyone used a connected screen on a Pi with NetBSD? I know
> external displays via HDMI work, but a small, portable deck with the
> screen hooked via the display connector or GPIO is way cleaner and
> easier to lug around.

I'm guessing you're using something like the PiTFT from adafruit[1],
in which case I think adafruit maintains a custom linux framebuffer
driver[2] for it. I don't know if a similar driver exists for NetBSD,
but, if not, porting the linux fb driver to NetBSD seems like a fun
project.

[1]:https://www.adafruit.com/product/2423
[2]:https://github.com/adafruit/Raspberry-Pi-Installer-Scripts/tree/main/st7789_module



From viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com  Sun Jan 22 09:06:18 2023
From: viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com (Robert Menes)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:06:18 -0500
Subject: [talk] NetBSD/evbarm on Raspberry Pis
In-Reply-To: <20230121121942.224b30bb@x1c>
References: <CA+TaHT0onRXT7AN=DMnToDBzEVrWgQW8CeiFgsxW5Ch_TQA8MQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CA+TaHT1yarzyEMXbcG8nE5ODK6-83ffDdawByNivdP7nnLP36w@mail.gmail.com>

I was trying both a PiTFT+ and the official Raspberry Pi 7" display. I
don't know if either or work; the 7" display hooks to the display connector
on the board but IIRC you still have to activate that within Linux.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023, 12:20 John Murphy <me at jtm.cx> wrote:

> > Has anyone used a connected screen on a Pi with NetBSD? I know
> > external displays via HDMI work, but a small, portable deck with the
> > screen hooked via the display connector or GPIO is way cleaner and
> > easier to lug around.
>
> I'm guessing you're using something like the PiTFT from adafruit[1],
> in which case I think adafruit maintains a custom linux framebuffer
> driver[2] for it. I don't know if a similar driver exists for NetBSD,
> but, if not, porting the linux fb driver to NetBSD seems like a fun
> project.
>
> [1]:https://www.adafruit.com/product/2423
> [2]:
> https://github.com/adafruit/Raspberry-Pi-Installer-Scripts/tree/main/st7789_module
>
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From assaf at eml.cc  Sun Jan 22 22:35:36 2023
From: assaf at eml.cc (assaf rutenberg)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:35:36 -0500
Subject: [talk] Risc V board
Message-ID: <7ea7b7d8-b47d-41e2-998b-81291dca34d5@app.fastmail.com>

Hey all, 
I have a nrw VisionFive 2 - open source quad-core RISC-V dev board by StarFive. Apparently, I was an early supporter on Indigogo or something. Anyhow, I have no use for it and thought someone on list might enjoy tinkering with it. Let ne know and I'll send it to you. I'm not looking for money, just thought someone might want to play with it. Thanks. 

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From viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com  Sun Jan 22 23:07:56 2023
From: viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com (Robert Menes)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:07:56 -0500
Subject: [talk] Risc V board
In-Reply-To: <7ea7b7d8-b47d-41e2-998b-81291dca34d5@app.fastmail.com>
References: <7ea7b7d8-b47d-41e2-998b-81291dca34d5@app.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+TaHT1ofyCmEBMChByWJ7SwZQn7uWATYc3PvrH4BQ3HXGdCow@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Assaf,

I've been curious about the RISC-V platform and have been wanting a board
to play around with. The Haiku OS (https://www.haiku-os.org) has a WIP
RISC-V port going on, and I think OpenBSD has a port available. It would be
interesting to see what the platform offers.

Contact me off list and we can make logistic arrangements.

--Robert

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 23:01 assaf rutenberg <assaf at eml.cc> wrote:

> Hey all,
> I have a nrw VisionFive 2 - open source quad-core RISC-V dev board by
> StarFive. Apparently, I was an early supporter on Indigogo or something.
> Anyhow, I have no use for it and thought someone on list might enjoy
> tinkering with it. Let ne know and I'll send it to you. I'm not looking for
> money, just thought someone might want to play with it. Thanks.
>
> Assaf
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> https://lists.nycbug.org:8443/mailman/listinfo/talk
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From viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com  Mon Jan 23 14:43:32 2023
From: viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com (Robert Menes)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 14:43:32 -0500
Subject: [talk] We got a spammer on the list
Message-ID: <CA+TaHT07Tmv9+H+ojRH5s7dQEK34cU88TkH2uHotioqS-UbUww@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

Someone wanna show that Dr. Henry Garrett guy his permanent place in our
spam filters?

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From okan at demirmen.com  Wed Jan 25 09:50:14 2023
From: okan at demirmen.com (Okan Demirmen)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 09:50:14 -0500
Subject: [talk] I can???t believe it???s been 19 years !
In-Reply-To: <C013B575-E56A-485C-A36B-C7E47B93645C@blackskyresearch.net>
References: <388809B2-6143-40CB-B974-69A0A9F7C67B@longcount.org>
 <CACwMPm9Wp=UJnSuGfVzq7y5G+21Ku8PvX9e9dcqLDFcqg_h+6A@mail.gmail.com>
 <C013B575-E56A-485C-A36B-C7E47B93645C@blackskyresearch.net>
Message-ID: <Y9FBpssh4Dee4WRj@carbon.khaoz.org>

On Fri 2023.01.20 at 14:12 -0500, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote:
> Hi Bob!
> 
> > On Jan 20, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Bob Ippolito <bob at redivi.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:35 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:
> > All 
> >   George reminded me it???s been 19 years of nyc bug ! https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share a story about their first meeting. 
> > 
> > The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
> > 
> > My memory of those meetings is not so clear, the fun we had after most of them certainly contributed to that :) I definitely went to the one with Ike that we both presented at! :) https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00017
> > 
> > The nycbug/lesmuug days were wonderful. While I have mostly forgotten the meetings I'll never forget the people or our adventures (e.g. BSDCan)! One of these days hopefully I'll be able to drop by another one if I happen to be in town again.
> > 
> > -bob
> 
> When you're back in town- remind me that I still have a firewire cable you loaned me once in a pinch, been in my backback this whole time.

Isn't firewire dead?

or was that (^^^) comment to refer to something else that's dead....

> Rocket-
> .ike



From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Wed Jan 25 11:15:14 2023
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 11:15:14 -0500
Subject: [talk] I can???t believe it???s been 19 years !
In-Reply-To: <Y9FBpssh4Dee4WRj@carbon.khaoz.org>
References: <388809B2-6143-40CB-B974-69A0A9F7C67B@longcount.org>
 <CACwMPm9Wp=UJnSuGfVzq7y5G+21Ku8PvX9e9dcqLDFcqg_h+6A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <B952CBC4-AAC7-4909-A519-FD3C6285E377@blackskyresearch.net>


> On Jan 25, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Okan Demirmen <okan at demirmen.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri 2023.01.20 at 14:12 -0500, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote:
>> Hi Bob!
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Bob Ippolito <bob at redivi.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:35 PM Mark Saad <nonesuch at longcount.org> wrote:
>>> All 
>>>  George reminded me it???s been 19 years of nyc bug ! https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00022 . Anyone want to share a story about their first meeting. 
>>> 
>>> The first meeting I went to was with FreeBSD with zfs Ike and yarema. It was good to meet other people as crazy as me to run zfs in production.
>>> 
>>> My memory of those meetings is not so clear, the fun we had after most of them certainly contributed to that :) I definitely went to the one with Ike that we both presented at! :) https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=00017
>>> 
>>> The nycbug/lesmuug days were wonderful. While I have mostly forgotten the meetings I'll never forget the people or our adventures (e.g. BSDCan)! One of these days hopefully I'll be able to drop by another one if I happen to be in town again.
>>> 
>>> -bob
>> 
>> When you're back in town- remind me that I still have a firewire cable you loaned me once in a pinch, been in my backback this whole time.
> 
> Isn't firewire dead?

I'm pretty sure the cable still works.

> 
> or was that (^^^) comment to refer to something else that's dead....

Yeah, UNIX!

Best,
.ike



> 
>> Rocket-
>> .ike




From spork at bway.net  Wed Jan 25 14:26:03 2023
From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:26:03 -0500
Subject: [talk] I can???t believe it???s been 19 years !
In-Reply-To: <B952CBC4-AAC7-4909-A519-FD3C6285E377@blackskyresearch.net>
References: <388809B2-6143-40CB-B974-69A0A9F7C67B@longcount.org>
 <CACwMPm9Wp=UJnSuGfVzq7y5G+21Ku8PvX9e9dcqLDFcqg_h+6A@mail.gmail.com>
 <C013B575-E56A-485C-A36B-C7E47B93645C@blackskyresearch.net>
 <Y9FBpssh4Dee4WRj@carbon.khaoz.org>
 <B952CBC4-AAC7-4909-A519-FD3C6285E377@blackskyresearch.net>
Message-ID: <CE20808B-E04D-4587-AFE4-9A47BA6DCE79@bway.net>


> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:15 AM, Isaac (.ike) Levy <ike at blackskyresearch.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Okan Demirmen <okan at demirmen.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri 2023.01.20 at 14:12 -0500, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you're back in town- remind me that I still have a firewire cable you loaned me once in a pinch, been in my backback this whole time.
>> 
>> Isn't firewire dead?
> 
> I'm pretty sure the cable still works.

Total tangent, but I'll just note that if anyone does have any firewire needs, I have a few firewire cards, tons of cables, multiple enclosures/bridgeboards... so any vintage hardware people needing that stuff, this is your notice I've got some. Even if I keep a few things around for any firewire emergencies, I have plenty.

Charles

> 
>> 
>> or was that (^^^) comment to refer to something else that's dead....
> 
> Yeah, UNIX!
> 
> Best,
> .ike
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> Rocket-
>>> .ike
> 
> 
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