[CDBUG-talk] Re: A question to start things. . .
swygue
swygue at gmail.com
Thu Dec 23 20:35:27 EST 2004
Hey George!
Now there are two people from Brooklyn, we met some time back at
Marc's install party, then I fell off the radar.
It's good to be taking part in one of my favorite things, FreeBSD.
Reading the intro's so far I am the one with the least credentials. I
share Jonathan Franks ambition to learn some type of programming
language mostly python and that it in larrge part due to my
involvement with FreeBSD. I used think that learning how to prgram
was not necessary, at that time Windows was my world.
I was first introduced to Linux (Redhat 7x) shortly after I left the
Navy and started community college. I wasn't impress and as I contined
using Redhat it became to graphical for me, reminded me of Windows.
Dru Lavigne and Greg Lehey open my eyes to FreeBSD at the time Greg
book was too complicated for me to follow. Dru's articles at Onlamp
gave me the quick fixes I needed. Thanks Dru, you are my IT idol.
Enough of that, I am a Windows Administrator I have experince with NT,
2000, XP, 2003. I am very interested in FreeBSD and wish to see it
as a true desktop OS . I have it installed on my Dell 700m laptop and
two computers at home. Since I recently lost my job, I am wishing my
future employer or client uses FreeBSD or Linux/Unix.
swygue
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> 1. Welcome (G. Rosamond)
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> 3. Welcome everyone (Jonathan Franks)
> 4. Re: Welcome everyone (G. Rosamond)
> 5. A question to start things. . . (G. Rosamond)
> 6. RE: A question to start things. . . (Jonathan Franks)
> 7. Re: A question to start things. . . (Craig Dooley)
> 8. Welcome (G. Rosamond)
> 9. RE: Re: A question to start things. . . (Jonathan Franks)
> 10. Anyone there? (Steve Moon)
> 11. Re: A question to start things. . . (Garance A Drosihn)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:31:10 -0500
> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> Subject: [Cdbug-talk] Welcome
> To: cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org
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> The first message. . .
>
> and so it begins. . .
>
> George
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:34:31 -0500
> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> Subject: [CDBUG-talk] test
> To: cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:14:44 -0500
> From: "Jonathan Franks" <jfranks214 at taconic.net>
> Subject: [CDBUG-talk] Welcome everyone
> To: "cdbug list" <cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org>
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> **Ahem**
> Okay here goes...
>
> Thanks, George, for so quickly supporting this effort. I also want to extend my thanks to NYC*BUG as a whole for being so receptive, and willing to assist me in this adventure.
>
> Okay then, I just wanted say that I'm very excited about the birth of CD*BUG. I've started sending out birth announcements, as it were, and I'm looking forward to hearing from interested people.
>
> The CD*BUG is pretty new right now (a matter of hours) so we have a lot of work to do. I'm going to just kind of run with this and see where it ends up, but should anyone wish to help out in any way please let me know.
>
> Over the next few days I'll be strategizing. I'll try to find an appropriate meeting place (suggestions welcome), and come up with some initial tasks. Right now, however, the first order of business is spreading the word.
>
> Thanks, everyone, see you soon.
>
> Jonathan
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:16:35 -0500
> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> Subject: Re: [CDBUG-talk] Welcome everyone
> To: "Jonathan Franks" <jfranks214 at taconic.net>
> Cc: cdbug list <cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org>
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> On Dec 17, 2004, at 10:14 AM, Jonathan Franks wrote:
>
> > **Ahem**
> > Okay here goes...
> >
> > Thanks, George, for so quickly supporting this effort. I also want to
> > extend my thanks to NYC*BUG as a whole for being so receptive, and
> > willing to assist me in this adventure.
>
> Of course. . . I subscribed you to the list so you should have no more
> problems.
>
> >
> > Okay then, I just wanted say that I'm very excited about the birth of
> > CD*BUG. I've started sending out birth announcements, as it were, and
> > I'm looking forward to hearing from interested people.
> >
>
> Hit usenet/deja also. . . you know, google groups.
>
> >
> > The CD*BUG is pretty new right now (a matter of hours) so we have a
> > lot of work to do. I'm going to just kind of run with this and see
> > where it ends up, but should anyone wish to help out in any way please
> > let me know.
> >
> > Over the next few days I'll be strategizing. I'll try to find an
> > appropriate meeting place (suggestions welcome), and come up with some
> > initial tasks. Right now, however, the first order of business is
> > spreading the word.
>
> Get a good core of people on the list, and if it works, then plan a
> meeting. But let the list create your critical mass.
>
> g
>
> >
> > Thanks, everyone, see you soon.
> >
> > Jonathan
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:36:48 -0500
> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> Subject: [CDBUG-talk] A question to start things. . .
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> There are now 4 people subscribed to the list. . . I'm in Brooklyn, so
> I seem to be the alien outsider.
>
> I have a question:
>
> Does anyone use a BSD in a work environment? University?
>
> Why don't we get some blood flowing on this list by starting with
> everyone's backgrounds in technology.
>
> g
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:36:59 -0500
> From: "Jonathan Franks" <jfranks214 at taconic.net>
> Subject: RE: [CDBUG-talk] A question to start things. . .
> To: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>, "cdbug list"
> <cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdbug-talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org
> [mailto:cdbug-talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org]On Behalf Of G. Rosamond
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:37 PM
> To: cdbug list
> Subject: [CDBUG-talk] A question to start things. . .
>
> There are now 4 people subscribed to the list. . . I'm in Brooklyn, so
> I seem to be the alien outsider.
>
> I have a question:
>
> Does anyone use a BSD in a work environment? University?
>
> Why don't we get some blood flowing on this list by starting with
> everyone's backgrounds in technology.
>
> g
>
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> Okay,
>
> A little about me then? I'm a network engineer currently working at a rural
> school district in Columbia County. I've been an IT pro for a little over 6
> years now. I've done IT work for several companies of various sizes in that
> time. Most recently I did two years contracting for GE Power Systems in
> Schenectady, NY, most of which was spent administering the IBM Mainframe
> systems, though I also worked on the MS side as needed.
>
> I have several FreeBSD boxes running at the School, one of which is a
> **very** secure intranet web server that will house an inventory management
> system that I am just beginning to develop. I also have three FreeBSD boxes
> running at home, one workstation and two providing various network services.
> I had a fourth in place as a firewall, but lightening took that one away
> from me along with my main system and my switch. (ugh)
>
> I began using Linux a few years ago, but it never really grabbed me, then I
> came across the BSD's and just decided "this is for me". Since then I've
> been using FreeBSD exclusively. (Although at this time I'm actually writing
> this on a Windows XP box that I have to keep around for the others in the
> household) In the time since I first used it I've become something of an
> evangelist for BSD.
>
> So as you may surmise from the above, I am by no means a BSD expert. I
> haven't stopped learning since I began using BSD, though. (That's one of the
> things that draws me to it, actually)
>
> I've recently started making a serious attempt to learn to program,
> beginning with Python. (Though I'm making a side foray in to PHP right now
> as well).
>
> I guess that's it in a nutshell...
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:18:41 -0500
> From: Craig Dooley <xlnxminusx at gmail.com>
> Subject: [CDBUG-talk] Re: A question to start things. . .
> To: cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org
> Message-ID: <8c8d5db70412220918188ee2d1 at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> I'm a 22 year old who's been using computers since I was 8. I started
> with a 386 SX 20 and dos, mostly for games. I started programming in
> 11th grade, using linux around August 1999, and started using FreeBSD
> in November 1999 (3.3 was I think the first release I've used). I
> went to SUNY Albany for Computer science and applied math, and
> graduated in May.
>
> I'm now working for the State of New York using DragonFly on Laptop.
> I've been using dragonfly ever since the fork was officially annouced,
> and am listed on their team page, even though i was quiet for a while.
> I now have more time and have been contributing again.
>
> My laptop is my only DragonFly machine anymore as the rest have had
> hardware failures, but I have an iMac G5 also. I would like to get at
> least a masters if not a PhD, and am interested in OS design and
> emulation/virtualization.
>
> -Craig
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Craig Dooley <xlnxminusx at gmail.com>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:04:48 -0500
> From: "G. Rosamond" <george at sddi.net>
> Subject: [CDBUG-talk] Welcome
> To: cdbug list <cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org>
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> To those who've joined the list recently, tell us a bit about yourself.
>
> CDBUG is just starting up, and it would be good for everyone to get
> familiar with each other.
>
> I'm in NYCBUG in NYC, and we're helping Jonathan in getting things
> started. . .
>
> The list is young, but I'm sure things will work out well.
>
> g
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:44:11 -0500
> From: "Jonathan Franks" <jfranks214 at taconic.net>
> Subject: RE: [CDBUG-talk] Re: A question to start things. . .
> To: "Craig Dooley" <xlnxminusx at gmail.com>,
> <cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> Message-ID: <CMEFKEKJMMFCMKFIMHIIKEJACBAA.jfranks214 at taconic.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> >
> >From: cdbug-talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org
> >[mailto:cdbug-talk-bounces at lists.nycbug.org]On Behalf Of Craig Dooley
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:19 PM
> >To: cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org
> >Subject: [CDBUG-talk] Re: A question to start things. . .
> >
> >
> >I'm a 22 year old who's been using computers since I was 8. I started
> >with a 386 SX 20 and dos, mostly for games. I started programming in
> >11th grade, using linux around August 1999, and started using FreeBSD
> >in November 1999 (3.3 was I think the first release I've used). I
> >went to SUNY Albany for Computer science and applied math, and
> >graduated in May.
> >
> >I'm now working for the State of New York using DragonFly on Laptop.
> >I've been using dragonfly ever since the fork was officially annouced,
> >and am listed on their team page, even though i was quiet for a while.
> > I now have more time and have been contributing again.
> >
> >My laptop is my only DragonFly machine anymore as the rest have had
> >hardware failures, but I have an iMac G5 also. I would like to get at
> >least a masters if not a PhD, and am interested in OS design and
> >emulation/virtualization.
> >
> >-Craig
> >--
> >
>
> Welcome Craig. I haven't had an opportunity to try DrgonFly yet, but I'm
> itching to do so. I actually have a laptop that's just kind of sitting there
> waiting to be loaded with something. Hmm... why not.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:24:11 -0500
> From: Steve Moon <steve.moon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [CDBUG-talk] Anyone there?
> To: cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org
> Message-ID: <be7c9f2d041223112451e8e11d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Any meetings scheduled yet?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:44:46 -0500
> From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih at rpi.edu>
> Subject: Re: [CDBUG-talk] A question to start things. . .
> To: cdbug list <cdbug-talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> Message-ID: <p0620078fbdf0d9120638@[128.113.24.47]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>
> At 3:36 PM -0500 12/17/04, G. Rosamond wrote:
> >There are now 4 people subscribed to the list. [...]
> >
> >I have a question:
> > Does anyone use a BSD in a work environment? University?
> >
> >Why don't we get some blood flowing on this list by starting
> >with everyone's backgrounds in technology.
>
> I wanted to wait a little before saying anything, so there would
> be more than three other people on the mailing list... :-)
>
> Well, my name is Garance Drosehn. It happens that if you go back in
> my family tree, the last name was originally spelled Drosihn, so I
> have some email accounts that use the alternate spelling for the name.
>
> I am also gad at FreeBSD.org, which is to say I am one of the committers
> to the FreeBSD base system. I started dabbling with FreeBSD sometime
> around 1995, though initially I would just pick up the source for
> some specific modules, and compile those on other OS's. I think that
> the first release which I actually installed somewhere was 2.2.5. I
> became a committer in October 2000. I was mainly brought in to work
> on lpr/lpd, but I have worked on other areas. Biggest contributions
> (outside of lpr) are probably to 'newsyslog' and 'ps'. I also put
> together the switch to 64-bit time_t on the FreeBSD/sparc64 port.
> I've also donated money to a few FreeBSD-related projects.
>
> I have dabbled with OpenBSD for almost as long, but I don't use it
> as much. The main thing which pulled me into the FreeBSD camp over
> OpenBSD was that I am a big fan of SMP machines, and OpenBSD did not
> have the SMP support that I wanted (back when I was deciding on what
> to use the most). I have bought all the CD's over the years, and a
> few T-Shirts, and have also contributed money to the project. Most
> recently I contributed to buying a new Mac G5, to make it easier to
> work on improved SMP support for OpenBSD/ppc.
>
> Once every year or two I also buy a set of NetBSD CD's, and will
> install the i386 version on some machine. That is usually just to
> test application-level changes. I don't use NetBSD enough to be of
> any help when it comes to answering questions about it.
>
> Recently DragonflyBSD branched off from FreeBSD. I am interested
> in seeing how Matt & company do with their goals. I have tried to
> install Dragonfly a few times, but I happen to run into bad luck
> with those installs, so I don't actually have it running anywhere.
> I don't really have any more spare time anyway, so I don't know how
> much I could contribute to that project unless I dropped out of the
> FreeBSD project. And right now I'm still interested in the multiple
> hardware platforms that FreeBSD runs on. I like having i386, amd64,
> sparc64, and PowerPC. In some sense I like the goals of NetBSD, to
> "run on everything", but I personally lose interest after the
>
> Going back a bit farther in my history, I was also the "NeXT
> support person" for NeXTSTEP and NeXTstations at RPI. Well, RPI
> was also an 'academic hub reseller', which meant we also sold NeXT's
> to nearby colleges. I still have both a greyscale NeXTstation and a
> color NeXTstation. (For those who don't know, NeXTSTEP was built on
> top of a BSD unix). I don't use them much though. Someday I'll clean
> off the disks and given them to someone working in NetBSD land.
>
> I could go on, but this already makes me sound much more impressive
> than I really am. I haven't *done* all that much, but I am interested
> in many open-source projects, and I like the BSD operating systems.
>
> I work in the computer center at RPI (a college in Troy NY). The
> computer center does not do much with any of the BSD's, but recently
> we have been moving more services from AIX or Solaris to Linux boxes.
> The computer center is charged with "general computing support for
> all academic departments on campus". RPI also has a computer-science
> department, with their own computing empire. The computer science
> department does a lot with FreeBSD for various purposes.
>
> --
> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad at gilead.netel.rpi.edu
> Senior Systems Programmer or gad at freebsd.org
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih at rpi.edu
>
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