[nycbug-talk] Re: backup server?

George Georgalis george
Mon Nov 8 09:16:32 EST 2004

On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 11:39:03PM -0500, a nice bug wrote:
>George Georgalis:
>> On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 03:21:42PM -0800, pete wright wrote:
>> >hey ya'll thought i'd post this as a rfc type thing.  i've prolly gone 
>> >for too long w/o a home backup solution, which is kinda bad expecially 
>> >considering i try to help out on the bacula lists when i have time.  so 
>> >i'm asking around what you all have going on.  i'm kinda cheep when it 
>> >comes to electricity ($$ wise and environmentally) so i've been leaning 
>> >to getting an older intel type system or possibly an older sun.  (think 
>> >those consume less power than my current dual athlon workstation and 
>> >dual G4 mac workstation).
>> Haven't we discussed this before? Older doesn't necessarily mean less
>> power. The via epia series M10000 has one interface, CL10000 has
>> two. Those are 1Ghz and use 17 watts, the slower models don't even
>> require a fan on the cpu (there's a lot more to deciding than the
>> number of interfaces). They where designed for low power/heat embedded
>> applications. I like the idotpc.com silent cube (8x8x12") case. Throw
>> in a $26 sata controller (ebay yesterday, after shipping) and a 5 year
>> warranty seagate 14 watt, 200Gb $130 sata drive (monarchcomputer.com).
>> and there you go. Don't forget power cable adapter, shentech.com.
>Do you have FreeBSD 5 running on the CL10000? Any issues - was
>everything on the board supported? Thanks for any comment - I was
>looking at these boards but don't find much FreeBSD info about them
>and you're the first person I've seen mention them specifically.
>Sorry to drift slightly OT..  

I cannot say for certain, but I would expect so the cpu is i386
compatible, and the components have pretty well established drivers, at
least under linux. This is the pci bus of an M10000 with an sata card:

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3123
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 80)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 80)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 80)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3104 (rev 82)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3177
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Ethernet Controller (rev 74)
00:14.0 RAID bus controller: CMD Technology Inc: Unknown device 3112 (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3122 (rev 03)

I do have a CL10000 on hand but I'm having a problem with it so I cannot
check for sure. It reads the ide disk okay (checked whole disk with
a knoppix boot) but it's having a problem reading certain tracks of
the atapi cdrom (and hence /bin/csh of the DragonFly install). Pretty
strange. I've not positively determined it's not the cdrom drive itself.
But even if this board has failed, I'd replace it with the same, it's
been abused having two drives in a cheap, hot, case. And that case was
in a virtually enclosed cabinet...

I think that was the first one I got, maybe a year ago. Presently I
have 4 (3xCL10000, 1xM10000) in production, three have been in place ~6
mos the fourth is a new install.

// George

George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE
http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org

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