From lists Fri Apr 1 08:12:51 2005 From: lists (michael) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:12:51 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] Fw: Que and Sams Open Source User Group Newsletter Message-ID: <20050401081251.475453db@delinux.abwatley.com> Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:46:29 -0500 Subject: Que and Sams Open Source User Group Newsletter Welcome to the Que and Sams Open Source User Group Newsletter Welcome to the Que and Sams User Group Newsletter, we will bring you up to date on our new publications and special promotions each month. This newsletter is designed to draw Que and Sams Publishing closer to our user groups and user groups closer to us. The program offers benefits to groups that include book discounts, review and library copies, event support, and access to the authors and experts that make our books indispensable tools for technology professionals and enthusiasts. Become a member of our exclusive team of Reader Reviewers! 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With list brokers now cutting deals with e-commerce sites and internet marketing firms for data that includes home addresses, phone numbers, and corresponding IP addresses, you may be opting in for more than you bargained for when you shop online. Brian is the author of"Spam Kings." http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2005/03/17/optin.html ***SafariU Revolutionizes the Textbook With SafariU, educators and trainers can create and publish their own textbooks, selecting exactly the book chapters, sections, or articles they want from a wealth of information resources. SafariU costs nothing to use and offers students more focused course content at less cost. Visit SafariU to view a video demo and sign up for access: http://safariu.oreilly.com --------------------- Open Source --------------------- ***Automating Windows (DNS) with Perl Perl is a fantastic tool for system administrators--even on Windows. Though the shiny GUI is astonishingly useless (or at least too mouse-friendly) for all but the simplest changes, there's plenty to automate under the shell. Thomas Herchenroeder explains how he wrapped dnscmd with Perl to make changes easily. http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2005/03/24/perl_dns.html ***make for Nonprogrammers If you're a typical FreeBSD user, you may never have compiled C source code on your own. Yet if you've ever issued a make command, it's compiled code for you. How does it do that? What does it do, anyway? And what else can it do? Dru Lavigne answers all of these questions. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/03/24/FreeBSD_Basics.html ***Closed Source PHP A look at the many different options PHP Developers have for protecting their source code from prying eyes when creating commercial PHP Applications. http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=238739 --------------------- Mac --------------------- ***Movies Made Easy in iPhoto 5 One of the best features in the current crop of consumer digital still cameras is their ability to capture high-quality video. iPhoto 5 is in step with this evolution and provides a great environment for taking those snippets and creating real movies. Derrick Story shows you how. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/03/22/iphoto_movies.html ***Exploring the Mac OS X Firewall Like so many tools built in to Mac OS X, the firewall just works. But what's really going on inside it? Peter Hickman explains why the firewall works so well, and then takes you inside and shows you how to fiddle with things. In the end, he returns you safely to the default settings. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/03/15/firewall.html ***Owen Linzmeyer ("Apple Confidential 2.0") on MacRadio Listen to No Starch's author Owen on the Mac Night Owl Radio on the March 24 show. http://www.macradio.com/thursday/nightowl/index.php --------------------- Windows/.NET --------------------- ***Five More Annoying PC Annoyances After his first "PC Annoyances" was released, Steve Bass was surprised by the barrage of email he received with yet more annoyances to fix. That led to the just-released second edition of "PC Annoyances," where he added 150 more fixes to irritating PC quirks. And if that's not enough, he offers five more here. http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2005/03/28/pcannoyances.html ***Microsoft, Blogging, and Transparency Author James Avery recently wrote about his experiences publishing his latest book and how Microsoft bloggers helped him immensely. To James, the benefits of increased transparency through the use of blogs cannot be understated. James is the author of "Visual Studio Hacks." http://dotavery.com/blog/archive/2005/03/28/2767.aspx ***Miguel de Icaza Explains How to "Get" Mono It's perhaps the most controversial project in the open source world, but this mostly stems from misunderstanding: Mono, the open source development platform based upon Microsoft's .NET framework. Immediate reactions from many dubious Linux developers have ranged from confusion over its connection with .NET to wondering what the benefits of developing under it are. Throughout the course of its four years of intense development, sponsored by Novell, Mono founder Miguel de Icaza has had to frequently clarify the .NET issue and sell the community on it. In this new interview, Howard Wen asks Miguel to explain himself one more time. http://www.ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2005/03/21/interviewmiguel.html --------------------- Java --------------------- ***Flexible Event Delivery with Executors Event-handling is critical to any GUI application, and many developers know the hazards of making a method call to unknown or poorly behaved code from the event-dispatch thread. J2SE 5.0's concurrency utilities offer more fine-grained control over how code executes. Andrew Thompson applies that to offer better ways to handle events. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2005/03/23/executors.html ***Java Component Development: A Conceptual Framework In general terms, a component is one or more classes with an external API that satisfy some requirement. But how do you build components that are really practical--that handle configuration changes or third-party integration well? Palash Ghosh has some ideas about the concepts behind components. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2005/03/23/components.html --------------------- Digital Media --------------------- ***HDTV on Your Mac Even though the Mac is a little late to the HDTV party, you can roll your own setup for not too much time or money. Erica Sadun shows you how. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/03/29/hdtv.html ***Resurrect Your Old PC for Music--with Linux Dig that clunker out of the closet! This step-by-step guide explains how to upgrade even a 486-based PC to an efficient, Linux-powered music machine. Total cost? About ten cents for a blank CD. http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/03/23/linuxmusic.html --------------------- Web --------------------- ***Ajax: New for 2005 Ajax is a term coined for an approach that utilizes the Document Object Model, JavaScript, and XMLHTTPRequest to allow web developers to create applications that don't require constant page-refreshes to be used. http://www.sitepoint.com/blog-post-view.php?id=238333 ================================================ >From Your Peers =============================================== Don't forget to check out the O'Reilly UG wiki to see what user groups across the globe are up to: http://wiki.oreillynet.com/usergroups/index.cgi Until next time -- --- -- --- From george Fri Apr 1 11:27:23 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:27:23 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood Message-ID: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> http://www.nyphp.org/ From jpb Fri Apr 1 11:36:31 2005 From: jpb (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:36:31 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> Message-ID: <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> * George R. [2005-04-01 11:27]: > http://www.nyphp.org/ > Hmmm... unfortunate. Does this mean people are just too stressed out to participate? Jim B. From george Fri Apr 1 11:38:00 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:38:00 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Message-ID: On Apr 1, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > * George R. [2005-04-01 11:27]: >> http://www.nyphp.org/ >> > > Hmmm... unfortunate. Does this mean people are just > too stressed out to participate? > They never really were anything anyway. . . I mean, come on, you know all www servers are moving to embedded Windows CE boxes anyway. . . that's the bigger trend. g From krook Fri Apr 1 11:38:48 2005 From: krook (Daniel Krook) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:38:48 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> Message-ID: > http://www.nyphp.org/ This is truly unfortunate. As I understand it, Hans is working closely with the NY .Net Users Group to find a home for all the spare Opteron-based hardware. Daniel Krook, Advisory IT Specialist Application Development, Production Services - Tools, ibm.com Personal: http://info.krook.org/ BluePages: http://w3.ibm.com/bluepages?searchcnum=9A9796897 From lists Fri Apr 1 11:42:15 2005 From: lists (Hans Zaunere) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:42:15 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0MKz5u-1DHPDs1MkR-0004Xn@mrelay.perfora.net> > > http://www.nyphp.org/ > > This is truly unfortunate. As I understand it, Hans is working closely > with the NY .Net Users Group to find a home for all the spare > Opteron-based hardware. Absolutely - there really is much better potential with commercial software - open source is just a trend. H From bob Fri Apr 1 11:43:51 2005 From: bob (Bob Ippolito) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:43:51 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Message-ID: On Apr 1, 2005, at 11:38, George R. wrote: > > On Apr 1, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> * George R. [2005-04-01 11:27]: >>> http://www.nyphp.org/ >>> >> >> Hmmm... unfortunate. Does this mean people are just >> too stressed out to participate? >> > > They never really were anything anyway. . . I mean, come on, you know > all www servers are moving to embedded Windows CE boxes anyway. . . > that's the bigger trend. Windows is cheaper anyway, once you factor in the costs of a know it all group of *BSD or Linux admins! -bob From lists Fri Apr 1 11:38:32 2005 From: lists (michael) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:38:32 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Message-ID: <20050401113832.40a8f713@delinux.abwatley.com> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:38:00 -0500 "George R." wrote: > > On Apr 1, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > > * George R. [2005-04-01 11:27]: > >> http://www.nyphp.org/ > >> > > > > Hmmm... unfortunate. Does this mean people are just > > too stressed out to participate? > > > > They never really were anything anyway. . . I mean, come on, you know > all www servers are moving to embedded Windows CE boxes anyway. . . > that's the bigger trend. > > g Seriously, PHP was just a kiddy scripting language anyway... and a security nightmare on top of that. Michael -- --- From spork Fri Apr 1 11:45:36 2005 From: spork (Charles Sprickman) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:45:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Daniel Krook wrote: >> http://www.nyphp.org/ > > This is truly unfortunate. As I understand it, Hans is working closely > with the NY .Net Users Group to find a home for all the spare > Opteron-based hardware. The rumor I heard via a well-established MS mole is that Redmond has a hand in this. But don't fret, soon the site will be back and all the urls will end in ".aspx". C > > > Daniel Krook, Advisory IT Specialist > Application Development, Production Services - Tools, ibm.com > > Personal: http://info.krook.org/ > BluePages: http://w3.ibm.com/bluepages?searchcnum=9A9796897 > > _______________________________________________ > % NYC*BUG talk mailing list > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > %Be sure to check out our Jobs and NYCBUG-announce lists > %We meet the first Wednesday of the month > From jbaltz Fri Apr 1 11:45:00 2005 From: jbaltz (Jerry B. Altzman) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:45:00 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <0MKz5u-1DHPDs1MkR-0004Xn@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKz5u-1DHPDs1MkR-0004Xn@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <424D7A8C.6020801@omnipod.com> On 4/1/2005 11:42 AM, Hans Zaunere wrote: >>This is truly unfortunate. As I understand it, Hans is working closely >>with the NY .Net Users Group to find a home for all the spare >>Opteron-based hardware. > Absolutely - there really is much better potential with commercial software - open source is just a trend. Have I ever mentioned how much I hate 1 April? > H //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman jbaltz at omnipod.com +1 646 230 8750 Thank you for contributing to the heat death of the universe. From bob Fri Apr 1 11:49:24 2005 From: bob (Bob Ippolito) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:49:24 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <20050401113832.40a8f713@delinux.abwatley.com> References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20050401113832.40a8f713@delinux.abwatley.com> Message-ID: On Apr 1, 2005, at 11:38, michael wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:38:00 -0500 > "George R." wrote: > >> >> On Apr 1, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >> >>> * George R. [2005-04-01 11:27]: >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/ >>>> >>> >>> Hmmm... unfortunate. Does this mean people are just >>> too stressed out to participate? >>> >> >> They never really were anything anyway. . . I mean, come on, you know >> all www servers are moving to embedded Windows CE boxes anyway. . . >> that's the bigger trend. > > > Seriously, PHP was just a kiddy scripting language anyway... and a > security nightmare on top of that. Wait a second... you do know it's April 1st, right? :) -bob From ike Fri Apr 1 11:50:31 2005 From: ike (Isaac Levy) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:50:31 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <424D7A8C.6020801@omnipod.com> References: <0MKz5u-1DHPDs1MkR-0004Xn@mrelay.perfora.net> <424D7A8C.6020801@omnipod.com> Message-ID: <879427ed4ef826008298f049290f6ddf@lesmuug.org> On Apr 1, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: > Have I ever mentioned how much I hate 1 April? Geez yall'- this really got me upset this morning. Almost made me give up Python because I felt the P's had no hope. Whew. /me sends email to /dev/null for the rest of today... Rocket- .ike From jbaltz Fri Apr 1 11:54:52 2005 From: jbaltz (Jerry B. Altzman) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:54:52 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <879427ed4ef826008298f049290f6ddf@lesmuug.org> References: <0MKz5u-1DHPDs1MkR-0004Xn@mrelay.perfora.net> <424D7A8C.6020801@omnipod.com> <879427ed4ef826008298f049290f6ddf@lesmuug.org> Message-ID: <424D7CDC.6030204@omnipod.com> On 4/1/2005 11:50 AM, Isaac Levy wrote: > Geez yall'- this really got me upset this morning. Almost made me give > up Python because I felt the P's had no hope. Whew. Think of how bad it *COULD* have been: > Cisco Systems and Kraft Foods shocked investors today with an unlikely mega-acquisition that will see Cisco buy Kraft's Nabisco unit for $15bn. Perhaps even more surprising, former RJR Nabisco and IBM CEO Lou Gerstner has come out of retirement to head the new firm tentatively called NaCisco. ref: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/01/cisco_buys_nabisco/ shabbat shalom y'all. > .ike //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman jbaltz at omnipod.com +1 646 230 8750 Thank you for contributing to the heat death of the universe. From jpb Fri Apr 1 12:10:24 2005 From: jpb (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:10:24 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Message-ID: <20050401171024.GB56087@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> * George R. [2005-04-01 11:38]: > > On Apr 1, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > >* George R. [2005-04-01 11:27]: > >>http://www.nyphp.org/ > >> > > > >Hmmm... unfortunate. Does this mean people are just > >too stressed out to participate? > > > > They never really were anything anyway. . . I mean, come on, you know > all www servers are moving to embedded Windows CE boxes anyway. . . > that's the bigger trend. > > g > Hans, Please don't close nyphp. Is there anywhere I can donate money? Please let me know, Jim B. From george Fri Apr 1 13:26:34 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:26:34 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] Fwd: [SA14792] PHP Multiple Vulnerabilities Message-ID: It seems like other's have jumped on your joke, Bob. . . Begin forwarded message: > From: Secunia Security Advisories > Date: April 1, 2005 7:51:15 AM EST > To: george at sddi.net > Subject: [SA14792] PHP Multiple Vulnerabilities > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Want a new IT Security job? > > Vacant positions at Secunia: > http://secunia.com/secunia_vacancies/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > TITLE: > PHP Multiple Vulnerabilities > > SECUNIA ADVISORY ID: > SA14792 > > VERIFY ADVISORY: > http://secunia.com/advisories/14792/ > > CRITICAL: > Moderately critical > > IMPACT: > Unknown, DoS > > WHERE: > From remote > > SOFTWARE: > PHP 5.0.x > http://secunia.com/product/3919/ > PHP 4.3.x > http://secunia.com/product/922/ > PHP 4.2.x > http://secunia.com/product/105/ > > DESCRIPTION: > Multiple vulnerabilities have been reported in PHP, where some have > an unknown impact and others can be exploited by malicious people to > cause a DoS (Denial of Service). > > 1) Errors within the "php_handle_iff()" and "php_handle_jpeg()" > functions called by the "getimagesize()" PHP function can be > exploited to cause infinite loops and consume all available CPU > resources via a specially crafted image. > > This has been reported in versions 4.2.2, 4.3.9, 4.3.10, and 5.0.3. > Other versions may also be affected. > > 2) Multiple unspecified security issues exist in the exif and fbsql > extensions and in the "unserialize()" and "swf_definepoly()" PHP > functions. > > Other bugs have also been reported where some may be security > related. > > SOLUTION: > Update to version 4.3.11 or 5.0.4. > http://www.php.net/downloads.php > > PROVIDED AND/OR DISCOVERED BY: > 1) Discovered by anonymous person and reported via iDEFENSE. > 2) Reported by vendor. > > ORIGINAL ADVISORY: > The PHP Group: > http://www.php.net/release_4_3_11.php > > iDEFENSE: > http://www.idefense.com/application/poi/display? > id=222&type=vulnerabilities > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > About: > This Advisory was delivered by Secunia as a free service to help > everybody keeping their systems up to date against the latest > vulnerabilities. > > Subscribe: > http://secunia.com/secunia_security_advisories/ > > Definitions: (Criticality, Where etc.) > http://secunia.com/about_secunia_advisories/ > > > Please Note: > Secunia recommends that you verify all advisories you receive by > clicking the link. > Secunia NEVER sends attached files with advisories. > Secunia does not advise people to install third party patches, only > use those supplied by the vendor. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Unsubscribe: Secunia Security Advisories > http://secunia.com/sec_adv_unsubscribe/?email=george%40sddi.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From george Fri Apr 1 13:56:28 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:56:28 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] other April Fools jokes .. Message-ID: <525a1c348267951a94a98b151fb269e2@sddi.net> This seems like a good roundup for the day: http://news.com.com/2061-10786-5650217.html?tag=xtra.ml This is a new RFC which seems appropriate for the times we are living in: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc4041.txt g From nomadlogic Fri Apr 1 21:16:25 2005 From: nomadlogic (pete wright) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:16:25 -0800 Subject: [nycbug-talk] favourite april fools joke of the day Message-ID: <57d710000504011816163f5532@mail.gmail.com> they have discovered water on mars: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050401.html -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From george Fri Apr 1 22:36:18 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 22:36:18 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] iPod on FBSD Message-ID: Anyone try this yet? http://www.osxhax.com/archives/000009.html George From steve Sat Apr 2 01:52:58 2005 From: steve (steverieger) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:52:58 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] Auto add bad ip's Message-ID: Somebody this past week asked (not on this list) if its possible to automatically add bad ips to the /etc/hosts.deny file, this here adds the bad ips to the actual firewall, feel free to modify as needed, !/bin/bash # check for hack attempts and email alerts if seen searchdate=`date +'%b %e'` searchtime=`date +'%r'` tail -n 100 /var/log/secure > /tmp/output.txt grep "Failed password" /tmp/output.txt > /tmp/faillogin if [ $? = 0 ] then awk '{print $11}' /tmp/faillogin > /tmp/awkip.txt for i in `cat /tmp/awkip.txt` do iptables -A INPUT -s $i/32 -j DROP done mail someone at somewhere.com -s "Failed login via SSH on $searchdate at $searchtime" < /tmp/faillogin Fi I also saw someplace that one can configure swatch to do this, but I have no further info. From chsnyder Sat Apr 2 11:56:01 2005 From: chsnyder (csnyder) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:56:01 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <20050401171024.GB56087@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20050401171024.GB56087@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Message-ID: On Apr 1, 2005 12:10 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > Is there anywhere I can donate money? On behalf of the NYPHP board, I suggest donating a round of beer after our next meeting. :-D -- Chris Snyder http://chxo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.nycbug.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20050402/a85e8a1f/attachment.html From jeff.knight Sat Apr 2 13:16:00 2005 From: jeff.knight (Jeff Knight) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:16:00 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <20050401171024.GB56087@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20050401171024.GB56087@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Message-ID: <2ca9ba9105040210163c9f2e94@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 1, 2005 12:10 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > Is there anywhere I can donate money? >From the its funny because its true department... over the next couple of months, nyphp will be making calls for more and more volunteers to handle various things that need to be done within the organization. We are not so much in need of money as time, for people to stand up and say, yes, I'll insure that this or that gets taken care of. These requests will be made on this list and at the meetings, so stay tuned for announcements with specific ways that all of you can help. From george Sat Apr 2 13:40:15 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:40:15 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <2ca9ba9105040210163c9f2e94@mail.gmail.com> References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20050401171024.GB56087@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <2ca9ba9105040210163c9f2e94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8f3ba68fd413163dbab3f2a3e698b5ba@sddi.net> On Apr 2, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Jeff Knight wrote: > On Apr 1, 2005 12:10 PM, Jim Brown > wrote: > >> Is there anywhere I can donate money? > >> From the its funny because its true department... over the next couple > of months, nyphp will be making calls for more and more volunteers to > handle various things that need to be done within the organization. We > are not so much in need of money as time, for people to stand up and > say, yes, I'll insure that this or that gets taken care of. These > requests will be made on this list and at the meetings, so stay tuned > for announcements with specific ways that all of you can help. > wrong list. ;-) Seriously, I'll talk to King Hansel about this, and maybe we could get on the same page on this. Besides LESMUUG, New York PHP is our sister group in the NYC scene. But in terms of activities and roles in their respective communities, no group is more similar or a better model for us than NY PHP. That's the reason why Hans has been involved in NYCBUG since the beginning, that Jeff designed our awesome logo, etc. And most recently that the NYTCHP holiday party was organized by NYPHP and NYCBUG, and that the event and both organizations in general are filled with many people with impressive resumes, skills and experience. As a tangent from yesterday's thread (if anyone didn't pickup that it was Apr 1, my sarcastic apologies), we need to recognize that NYCBUG has a larger importance in the NYC user group scene. Frankly, when we started up, there was some chuckles in the NYC BSD scene, where it was like, 'oh no, another Linux-like group'. I'm quite confident we have dispelled that notion. O'Reilly & Associates, for examples, has been continually excited by our activities and meetings, as they are with NYPHP. Sure, NYCBUG members have a wide variety of backgrounds, from committers and authors to hobbyists, and lots in between, but we have maintained a high level of technical content in our meetings and list. Recently, a heavy-duty BSDer from .br, who is on this list (:-'), mentioned how much he enjoys our list, in that the discussions are useful technically and the tone is right. We need to keep that as our modus operandi, and look forward to becoming more and more of a benefactor to the BSD projects. So, with that, I'll mention that Okan (now in DC) is leading an effort to get BSD cvsup mirrors up for each project, administered by NYCBUG, and hosted by New York Internet. We'll probably start with NetBSD. Brad S. has revised our BSD Tracker to provide a resource for those looking for BSD services in and around NYC. We host the BSD Certification lists, and a few of us are on the admin group for that effort. And we continue our fundraising efforts with the tshirt sales for the OpenBSD hackathon. There's other things that need to be taken on, other project ideas that could increase our positive impact the BSD community. Certainly raising funds for Dan Langille's stolen laptop and dmesgd can be included in this from the past. On that note, I want to give another push for BSDCan (.org). . . last year, the 5 or 6 of us who attended got to know each other well, and it helped move NYCBUG forward enormously. If you haven't registered yet, do it now. Worry about getting off time from work in the weeks before. And there's a list for this year's BSDCan at lists.nycbug.org for those needing to work out transportation and housing, or if you have any other questions or issues. George From jeff.knight Sat Apr 2 13:50:56 2005 From: jeff.knight (Jeff Knight) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:50:56 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] there goes the neighborhood In-Reply-To: <8f3ba68fd413163dbab3f2a3e698b5ba@sddi.net> References: <3eaf5b0ae5f8c98104fb8df8f90c8938@sddi.net> <20050401163631.GA56024@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20050401171024.GB56087@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <2ca9ba9105040210163c9f2e94@mail.gmail.com> <8f3ba68fd413163dbab3f2a3e698b5ba@sddi.net> Message-ID: <2ca9ba9105040210504a6d2887@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 2, 2005 1:40 PM, George R. wrote: > wrong list. Not really, considering NYPHP's recent difficulties, we're moving all traffic on to this one... but seriously, I saw a message from someone asking to donate money to nyphp, and just assumed it was on the nyphp list, thus making an ass out of at least myself. Blame that damned convenient reply button yet again! From steve Tue Apr 5 12:33:55 2005 From: steve (steve Rieger) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:33:55 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] mysql cluster Message-ID: <6a520146207cc33374514875705571dc@n2sw.com> hi all, from what me understands we have a few mysql dudes and or dudets here. now for the questions am thinking about setting up a mysql cluster, as prescribed in the docs at mysql.com. does the mgmt server need to be the same os as the two sql servers, and which ip address do i give out as the mysql host, also does this cluster thingy make sure that the data is replicated betwix both servers. thanx all for listening -- Steve Rieger (212) 804-1131 (Work) (646) 335-8915 (Cell) chozrim (aim) From george Tue Apr 5 12:51:25 2005 From: george (George Georgalis) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:51:25 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes Message-ID: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> Is there a way to send out some static routes in dhcp along with a default gw? // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org From nomadlogic Tue Apr 5 13:22:18 2005 From: nomadlogic (pete wright) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:22:18 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> References: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <57d710000504051022197c4a41@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 5, 2005 9:51 AM, George Georgalis wrote: > Is there a way to send out some static routes in dhcp along with a > default gw? check out dhcpd-options(5) there is a section on: option static-route in there HTH -pete > > // George > > -- > George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE > http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org > _______________________________________________ > % NYC*BUG talk mailing list > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > %Be sure to check out our Jobs and NYCBUG-announce lists > %We meet the first Wednesday of the month > -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From jpb Tue Apr 5 13:27:42 2005 From: jpb (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:27:42 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> References: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <20050405172742.GB74354@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> * George Georgalis [2005-04-05 12:51]: > Is there a way to send out some static routes in dhcp along with a > default gw? > > // George > See RFC 1533 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1533.html The gateway option is code 3, static routes is code 33. Best Regards, Jim B. From steve Tue Apr 5 15:15:00 2005 From: steve (steve Rieger) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:15:00 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui Message-ID: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> hi all, am working on a personal thing, and i would like to make a sexy gui for a script i have, this script asks the user questions and based on the answers it inserts data into a mysql db.i would like this gui/frontend to be cross platform, which rules out a few langs, can you folks recommend the pros and cons of what my options are, a few that come to mind are ruby, python, java etc.... thanx From nomadlogic Tue Apr 5 15:32:41 2005 From: nomadlogic (pete wright) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:32:41 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> Message-ID: <57d71000050405123237a7d6d0@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 5, 2005 12:15 PM, steve Rieger wrote: > hi all, > > am working on a personal thing, and i would like to make a sexy gui for > a script i have, this script asks the user questions and based on the > answers it inserts data into a mysql db.i would like this gui/frontend > to be cross platform, which rules out a few langs, can you folks > recommend the pros and cons of what my options are, > a few that come to mind are ruby, python, java etc.... > my personal favorite right now is python. the qt bindings are pretty great if you are working on a *nix machine (not sure about osX and win32 gui bindings sorry). the only other scripting lang. i have gui experience with is perl...and it hurt. compared to python atleast ;) for example I worked on an app here that we used the qt gui designer to build the interface, which then exported an XML file that python can just slurp up. it was quick, easy and quite responsive as well. -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From bob Tue Apr 5 18:17:30 2005 From: bob (Bob Ippolito) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:17:30 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <57d71000050405123237a7d6d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <57d71000050405123237a7d6d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5a9b2255fa8c8ae4a48f32e2ca9fb545@redivi.com> On Apr 5, 2005, at 12:32 PM, pete wright wrote: > On Apr 5, 2005 12:15 PM, steve Rieger wrote: >> >> am working on a personal thing, and i would like to make a sexy gui >> for >> a script i have, this script asks the user questions and based on the >> answers it inserts data into a mysql db.i would like this gui/frontend >> to be cross platform, which rules out a few langs, can you folks >> recommend the pros and cons of what my options are, >> a few that come to mind are ruby, python, java etc.... >> > > my personal favorite right now is python. the qt bindings are pretty > great if you are working on a *nix machine (not sure about osX and > win32 gui bindings sorry). the only other scripting lang. i have gui > experience with is perl...and it hurt. compared to python atleast ;) > for example I worked on an app here that we used the qt gui designer > to build the interface, which then exported an XML file that python > can just slurp up. it was quick, easy and quite responsive as well. Qt is only available for Windows commercially. Sounds like your requirements may be simple, and Python + Tkinter might do just fine. Tkinter support ships with Python just about everywhere, except Mac OS X (up to and including 10.3 anyway), because Mac OS X doesn't ship with Tk (yet). However, you can install Tk from http://tcltkaqua.sf.net/ and get the _tkinter extension for the Python 2.3.0 that ships with Mac OS X 10.3.x from http://pythonmac.org/packages/ There is also wxPython, which works great on Windows and less so everywhere else... or pyGTK which works on X11/Win32 (mostly anyway).. but I would recommend just taking a stab with Tkinter first, as you already have it and it's rather simple to deal with (so long as your requirements are also simple). -bob From nomadlogic Tue Apr 5 19:53:54 2005 From: nomadlogic (pete wright) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:53:54 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <5a9b2255fa8c8ae4a48f32e2ca9fb545@redivi.com> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <57d71000050405123237a7d6d0@mail.gmail.com> <5a9b2255fa8c8ae4a48f32e2ca9fb545@redivi.com> Message-ID: <57d71000050405165378d722b5@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 5, 2005 3:17 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2005, at 12:32 PM, pete wright wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2005 12:15 PM, steve Rieger wrote: > >> > >> am working on a personal thing, and i would like to make a sexy gui > >> for > >> a script i have, this script asks the user questions and based on the > >> answers it inserts data into a mysql db.i would like this gui/frontend > >> to be cross platform, which rules out a few langs, can you folks > >> recommend the pros and cons of what my options are, > >> a few that come to mind are ruby, python, java etc.... > >> > > > > my personal favorite right now is python. the qt bindings are pretty > > great if you are working on a *nix machine (not sure about osX and > > win32 gui bindings sorry). the only other scripting lang. i have gui > > experience with is perl...and it hurt. compared to python atleast ;) > > for example I worked on an app here that we used the qt gui designer > > to build the interface, which then exported an XML file that python > > can just slurp up. it was quick, easy and quite responsive as well. > > Qt is only available for Windows commercially. I was hoping you would reply :) I'm not totally familiar with Qt's commercial liscense. Is this if you want to redistribute software? If I build software using the QT bindings for Unix hosts I would assume one does not require a commercial liscense. -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From ahpook Tue Apr 5 20:09:51 2005 From: ahpook (Ah Pook) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:09:51 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <57d71000050405165378d722b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <5a9b2255fa8c8ae4a48f32e2ca9fb545@redivi.com> <57d71000050405165378d722b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200504052009.51874.ahpook@optonline.net> On Tuesday 05 April 2005 7:53 pm, pete wright wrote: > On Apr 5, 2005 3:17 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > Qt is only available for Windows commercially. > > I was hoping you would reply :) I'm not totally familiar with Qt's > commercial liscense. Is this if you want to redistribute software? Bob's statement was true in the past, but it'll be changing with the release of Qt 4. They have a pretty decent FAQ section at http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html From nomadlogic Tue Apr 5 20:18:01 2005 From: nomadlogic (pete wright) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:18:01 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <200504052009.51874.ahpook@optonline.net> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <5a9b2255fa8c8ae4a48f32e2ca9fb545@redivi.com> <57d71000050405165378d722b5@mail.gmail.com> <200504052009.51874.ahpook@optonline.net> Message-ID: <57d7100005040517187e58df97@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 5, 2005 5:09 PM, Ah Pook wrote: > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 7:53 pm, pete wright wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2005 3:17 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > > Qt is only available for Windows commercially. > > > > I was hoping you would reply :) I'm not totally familiar with Qt's > > commercial liscense. Is this if you want to redistribute software? > > Bob's statement was true in the past, but it'll be changing with the > release of Qt 4. > > They have a pretty decent FAQ section at > http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html > wow thanks for the link that's quite interesting. so i guess we must have the commercial liscense here. -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From bob Tue Apr 5 21:25:39 2005 From: bob (Bob Ippolito) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:25:39 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <200504052009.51874.ahpook@optonline.net> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <5a9b2255fa8c8ae4a48f32e2ca9fb545@redivi.com> <57d71000050405165378d722b5@mail.gmail.com> <200504052009.51874.ahpook@optonline.net> Message-ID: <9bd9221c38a5167430d5b4068aac22cc@redivi.com> On Apr 5, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Ah Pook wrote: > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 7:53 pm, pete wright wrote: >> On Apr 5, 2005 3:17 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> Qt is only available for Windows commercially. >> >> I was hoping you would reply :) I'm not totally familiar with Qt's >> commercial liscense. Is this if you want to redistribute software? > > Bob's statement was true in the past, but it'll be changing with the > release of Qt 4. Yes, but that doesn't exist today. I would also recommend against Qt, for now, if you care about Mac OS X. Their current port is substandard. -bob From george Tue Apr 5 22:57:19 2005 From: george (George Georgalis) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:57:19 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <57d710000504051022197c4a41@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> <57d710000504051022197c4a41@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050406025719.GA5693@ixeon.local> On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:22:18AM -0700, pete wright wrote: >On Apr 5, 2005 9:51 AM, George Georgalis wrote: >> Is there a way to send out some static routes in dhcp along with a >> default gw? > >check out dhcpd-options(5) > >there is a section on: >option static-route Thanks, that was a hard find, but: Also, please note that this option is not intended for classless IP routing - it does not include a subnet mask. Since classless IP routing is now the most widely deployed routing standard, this option is virtually useless, and is not implemented by any of the popular DHCP clients, for example the Microsoft DHCP client. ...I guess people don't use vpn devices accept also as their gateway. so with a separate gateway, things like a network printer MUST be driven from a local subnet host, not via a vpn remote network. will probably add a classless route to a host local to the printer and configure that host to print locally (for remote vpn clients). // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org From george Tue Apr 5 23:04:36 2005 From: george (George Georgalis) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:04:36 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <20050405172742.GB74354@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> References: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> <20050405172742.GB74354@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> Message-ID: <20050406030436.GB5693@ixeon.local> On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 01:27:42PM -0400, Jim Brown wrote: >* George Georgalis [2005-04-05 12:51]: >> Is there a way to send out some static routes in dhcp along with a >> default gw? >> >> // George >> > > >See RFC 1533 >http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1533.html > >The gateway option is code 3, >static routes is code 33. maybe subnet routing, which is what I need, is too much to ask for in the OS of dedicated hardware devices. Funny the rfc doesn't mention this limitation of the protocol. October 1993, that rfc is an antique! Thanks, // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org From mspitzer Tue Apr 5 23:23:40 2005 From: mspitzer (Marc Spitzer) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:23:40 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <20050406025719.GA5693@ixeon.local> References: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> <57d710000504051022197c4a41@mail.gmail.com> <20050406025719.GA5693@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <8c50a3c305040520234ab46787@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 5, 2005 10:57 PM, George Georgalis wrote: > ...I guess people don't use vpn devices accept also as their gateway. so > with a separate gateway, things like a network printer MUST be driven > from a local subnet host, not via a vpn remote network. will probably > add a classless route to a host local to the printer and configure that > host to print locally (for remote vpn clients). That is not true, the rfc is just assuming a "real router", you can configure the router to route traffic arbitrarily(back into the source subnet for example). The way it would work is as follows: 1: box A sends packet B to the default route/router 2: router looks up the next hop and sends it there, the next hop can be in the same subnet The problem is that most cable/dsl/leaf node routers flat out suck as routers. So the only thing you need is the default route, the router should take care of the rest. marc From jesse Wed Apr 6 01:27:01 2005 From: jesse (Jesse Callaway) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 01:27:01 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <20050406030436.GB5693@ixeon.local> References: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> <20050405172742.GB74354@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20050406030436.GB5693@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <200504060127.02100.jesse@theholymountain.com> On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:04 pm, George Georgalis says: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 01:27:42PM -0400, Jim Brown wrote: > >* George Georgalis [2005-04-05 12:51]: > >> Is there a way to send out some static routes in dhcp along with a > >> default gw? > >> > >> // George > > > >See RFC 1533 > >http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1533.html > > > >The gateway option is code 3, > >static routes is code 33. > > maybe subnet routing, which is what I need, is too much to ask > for in the OS of dedicated hardware devices. Funny the rfc doesn't > mention this limitation of the protocol. October 1993, that rfc is > an antique! > > Thanks, > // George You might have to open up some stuff in the firewall ruleset? You might not be experiencing a routing problem at all. What's up? What's the goal? -jesse From george Wed Apr 6 02:30:04 2005 From: george (George Georgalis) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 02:30:04 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <200504060127.02100.jesse@theholymountain.com> References: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local> <20050405172742.GB74354@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net> <20050406030436.GB5693@ixeon.local> <200504060127.02100.jesse@theholymountain.com> Message-ID: <20050406063004.GE5693@ixeon.local> On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 01:27:01AM -0400, Jesse Callaway wrote: >On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:04 pm, George Georgalis says: >> On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 01:27:42PM -0400, Jim Brown wrote: >> >* George Georgalis [2005-04-05 12:51]: >> >> Is there a way to send out some static routes in dhcp along with a >> >> default gw? >> >> >> >> // George >> > >> >See RFC 1533 >> >http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1533.html >> > >> >The gateway option is code 3, >> >static routes is code 33. >> >> maybe subnet routing, which is what I need, is too much to ask >> for in the OS of dedicated hardware devices. Funny the rfc doesn't >> mention this limitation of the protocol. October 1993, that rfc is >> an antique! >> >> Thanks, >> // George > >You might have to open up some stuff in the firewall ruleset? You might not be >experiencing a routing problem at all. What's up? What's the goal? that reasoning has bit me before, isp-------------vpn router / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ client gw router---------------device if the client 192.168.1.100 uses vpn to connect to device 192.168.2.5 and gw router has a route for 192.168.0.0/16 to the vpn router ip, the device will respond to 192.168.1.0/24 via gw router per dhcp gw, the response is routed to the vpn router which is waiting for the arp from the device.... timeout. so just use the gw router to provide resources local to it, add the vpn route to the gw router and restrict vpn client subnets to 192.168.0.0/16 minus 192.168.2.0/24 // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org From jbaltz Wed Apr 6 07:56:34 2005 From: jbaltz (Jerry B. Altzman) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <20050406063004.GE5693@ixeon.local> References: <20050405165125.GA4478@ixeon.local><20050405172742.GB74354@sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net><20050406030436.GB5693@ixeon.local><200504060127.02100.jesse@theholymountain.com> <20050406063004.GE5693@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <22881.24.191.15.160.1112788594.squirrel@webmail.omnipod.com> George: We have a similar problem with our networking setup. Our solution was to run zebra on the vpn box feeding RIPv2 routes out, and turning on the RIP listener on the Windows client boxes (works like a champ, in spite of the documentation actually appears to hear RIPv2 announcements) and routed on linux clients. (We have no BSD clients, except for my workstation, and by and large the linux users are clueful enough to be able to do a sudo route add net/netmask virtual-interface-id That is, if I understand your problem correctly... In any case, DHCP was NOT the complete answer. > // George //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman jbaltz at omnipod.com +1 347 385 8435 "There is no universe." -- P. Halmos From george Wed Apr 6 10:06:54 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:06:54 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 Message-ID: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> The 3u box I have has the following components: Adaptec SATA RAID card AAR-2810SA Intel P4 PSCH-SR Series with E7210/6300ESB Chipset The problem: 4.11 Boots and the dmesg passes by, but it reboots by the end of the dmesg 5.3 boots and borks out at the initial stages right before/during the Daemon menu screen. I googled a bit, but nothing useful . . . ideas? George From george Wed Apr 6 11:29:25 2005 From: george (George Georgalis) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 11:29:25 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <22881.24.191.15.160.1112788594.squirrel@webmail.omnipod.com> References: <20050406063004.GE5693@ixeon.local> <22881.24.191.15.160.1112788594.squirrel@webmail.omnipod.com> Message-ID: <20050406152925.GA12324@ixeon.local> On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:56:34AM -0400, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: >That is, if I understand your problem correctly... >In any case, DHCP was NOT the complete answer. yeah, in my case if dhcp could dole out 192.168.2.0/24 interface 192.168.0.0/16 vpn router default gw router (the second being the extra) I think it could work... // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org From george Wed Apr 6 11:36:25 2005 From: george (George Georgalis) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 11:36:25 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> Message-ID: <20050406153625.GB12324@ixeon.local> On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 10:06:54AM -0400, G Rosamond wrote: >The 3u box I have has the following components: > >Adaptec SATA RAID card AAR-2810SA > >Intel P4 PSCH-SR Series with E7210/6300ESB Chipset > >The problem: > >4.11 Boots and the dmesg passes by, but it reboots by the end of the >dmesg > >5.3 boots and borks out at the initial stages right before/during the >Daemon menu screen. > >I googled a bit, but nothing useful . . . ideas? it's a virus (just kidding), can you boot a live cd, like dfly? If not, keep removing components and/or disableing them in bios till you can narrow the problem to a specific one. ...it could be failed hardware, maybe // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org From jbaltz Wed Apr 6 11:57:21 2005 From: jbaltz (Jerry B. Altzman) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:57:21 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <20050406152925.GA12324@ixeon.local> References: <20050406063004.GE5693@ixeon.local> <22881.24.191.15.160.1112788594.squirrel@webmail.omnipod.com> <20050406152925.GA12324@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <425406E1.90204@omnipod.com> On 4/6/2005 11:29 AM, George Georgalis wrote: > On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:56:34AM -0400, I wrote: >>That is, if I understand your problem correctly... >>In any case, DHCP was NOT the complete answer. > yeah, in my case if dhcp could dole out > 192.168.2.0/24 interface > 192.168.0.0/16 vpn router > default gw router > (the second being the extra) I think it could work... Like I said: in our situation, we are running zebra to feed out RIPv2, and the Windows RIPv2 client. It works like a champ. If you need some more explicit help, or something, contact me offline... > // George //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman jbaltz at omnipod.com +1 646 230 8750 Thank you for contributing to the heat death of the universe. From okan Wed Apr 6 12:05:33 2005 From: okan (Okan Demirmen) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:05:33 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] dhcp routes In-Reply-To: <20050406152925.GA12324@ixeon.local> References: <20050406063004.GE5693@ixeon.local> <22881.24.191.15.160.1112788594.squirrel@webmail.omnipod.com> <20050406152925.GA12324@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <20050406160533.GA80330@yinaska.pair.com> On Wed 2005.04.06 at 11:29 -0400, George Georgalis wrote: > yeah, in my case if dhcp could dole out > 192.168.2.0/24 interface > 192.168.0.0/16 vpn router > default gw router > (the second being the extra) I think it could work... i bet your "gw router" can send icmp redirects. so set a route on the default gateway for 192.168/16. okan -- Okan Demirmen PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB3670934 PGP-Fingerprint: 226D B4AE 78A9 7F4E CD2B 1B44 C281 AF18 B367 0934 From george Wed Apr 6 12:59:33 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:59:33 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: <20050406153625.GB12324@ixeon.local> References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> <20050406153625.GB12324@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <5c88656b7d4b61f799eac44489fbb473@sddi.net> On Apr 6, 2005, at 11:36 AM, George Georgalis wrote: > On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 10:06:54AM -0400, G Rosamond wrote: >> The 3u box I have has the following components: >> >> Adaptec SATA RAID card AAR-2810SA >> >> Intel P4 PSCH-SR Series with E7210/6300ESB Chipset >> >> The problem: >> >> 4.11 Boots and the dmesg passes by, but it reboots by the end of the >> dmesg >> >> 5.3 boots and borks out at the initial stages right before/during the >> Daemon menu screen. >> >> I googled a bit, but nothing useful . . . ideas? > > it's a virus (just kidding), I f'g knew it. . . > can you boot a live cd, Those are my next steps. . .downloaded a few snapshots too. Just wondering if there was anything I should know from those components from anyone else's experience. .. > like dfly? If not, keep removing components and/or > disableing them in bios till you can narrow the > problem to a specific one. ...it could be failed > hardware, maybe > yup . . thanks for the input g From nomadlogic Wed Apr 6 13:39:48 2005 From: nomadlogic (pete wright) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:39:48 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> Message-ID: <57d710000504061039171ac153@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 6, 2005 7:06 AM, George R. wrote: > The 3u box I have has the following components: > > Adaptec SATA RAID card AAR-2810SA > > Intel P4 PSCH-SR Series with E7210/6300ESB Chipset > > The problem: > > 4.11 Boots and the dmesg passes by, but it reboots by the end of the > dmesg > > 5.3 boots and borks out at the initial stages right before/during the > Daemon menu screen. > > I googled a bit, but nothing useful . . . ideas? > Is this a test :) stupid questions first. with 5.x have you tried booting w/o AICPI support. maybe you can diable AICPI in the BIOS. with 4.x can you boot into single user? i know this is going to hurt, but have you tired booting w/ other bsd's or even a linux live cd? if you don't want to use knoppix (and have to wait to kde to load of cd-rom) slackware has an execellent live cd. -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From spork Wed Apr 6 13:44:32 2005 From: spork (Charles Sprickman) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, George R. wrote: > 5.3 boots and borks out at the initial stages right before/during the Daemon > menu screen. > > I googled a bit, but nothing useful . . . ideas? Have you tried the 5.4 beta for kicks? I had a box that was having issues with a 3Ware controller and 4.8, 4.9 and 4.10 all bombed. Then 4.11 was the magic bullet. Since 5.x is advancing so much faster perhaps something in 5.4 will "fix" it. What other hardware of note is there in the box? Someone else mentioned booting sans ACPI, try that for sure. Is this a server-class board or a desktop board? Have you tried disabling sound, usb and built-in ATA/SATA controllers? Charles > George > > _______________________________________________ > % NYC*BUG talk mailing list > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > %Be sure to check out our Jobs and NYCBUG-announce lists > %We meet the first Wednesday of the month > From george Wed Apr 6 13:53:31 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:53:31 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> Message-ID: <2596c1ec9108bbce5441711018cb23ed@sddi.net> On Apr 6, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, George R. wrote: > >> 5.3 boots and borks out at the initial stages right before/during the >> Daemon menu screen. >> >> I googled a bit, but nothing useful . . . ideas? > > Have you tried the 5.4 beta for kicks? I had a box that was having > issues with a 3Ware controller and 4.8, 4.9 and 4.10 all bombed. Then > 4.11 was the magic bullet. Since 5.x is advancing so much faster > perhaps something in 5.4 will "fix" it. I am downloading snapshots of 5.3 and 6.0 FBSD. . . we see. . . > > What other hardware of note is there in the box? Nothing else of note other than the motherboard and SATA controller. . . > Someone else mentioned booting sans ACPI, try that for sure. Is this > a server-class board or a desktop board? Have you tried disabling > sound, usb and built-in ATA/SATA controllers? > I'll try ACPI in the BIOS. . . I think I tried that already. . . and the other things. . . Was really just curious about any experiences. . . I'll keep everyone in the loop. . . g From george Wed Apr 6 13:54:16 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:54:16 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: <57d710000504061039171ac153@mail.gmail.com> References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> <57d710000504061039171ac153@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <96e90eac68f2cde829565ad52f50c3de@sddi.net> On Apr 6, 2005, at 1:39 PM, pete wright wrote: > On Apr 6, 2005 7:06 AM, George R. wrote: >> The 3u box I have has the following components: >> >> Adaptec SATA RAID card AAR-2810SA >> >> Intel P4 PSCH-SR Series with E7210/6300ESB Chipset >> >> The problem: >> >> 4.11 Boots and the dmesg passes by, but it reboots by the end of the >> dmesg >> >> 5.3 boots and borks out at the initial stages right before/during the >> Daemon menu screen. >> >> I googled a bit, but nothing useful . . . ideas? >> > > Is this a test :) > > stupid questions first. with 5.x have you tried booting w/o AICPI > support. maybe you can diable AICPI in the BIOS. with 4.x can you > boot into single user? i know this is going to hurt, but have you > tired booting w/ other bsd's or even a linux live cd? if you don't > want to use knoppix (and have to wait to kde to load of cd-rom) > slackware has an execellent live cd. > I'll let you know what happens with AICPI disabled, plus the 5.3 snapshot and 6.0. George From daggerquill Wed Apr 6 14:49:40 2005 From: daggerquill (Jay Savage) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:49:40 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> Message-ID: <4ce365ec05040611491306ee2d@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 5, 2005 3:15 PM, steve Rieger wrote: > hi all, > > am working on a personal thing, and i would like to make a sexy gui for > a script i have, this script asks the user questions and based on the > answers it inserts data into a mysql db.i would like this gui/frontend > to be cross platform, which rules out a few langs, can you folks > recommend the pros and cons of what my options are, > a few that come to mind are ruby, python, java etc.... > > thanx > I'd say it depends at least in part what language the script is already in, and how difficult it would be to rewrite it vs. how much of a pain the gui is in whatever language it's already in. That said, the Python Tk bindings are nice. My personal favorite for any database work remains Perl, and Perl/Tk is very nice and very stable. Your decision will stem partly from the answer to "how sexy is sexy?" but overall, it sounds like Qt or GTK are proably overkill for what your talking about. You could also write it as CGI or PHP to make it extrememly cross-platform, and use flash, javascript, etc., to make it as sexy/annoying as you want. HTH, --jay From steve Wed Apr 6 14:56:50 2005 From: steve (steve Rieger) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:56:50 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <4ce365ec05040611491306ee2d@mail.gmail.com> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <4ce365ec05040611491306ee2d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c52faa9ee2c4181c87f61813403322c@n2sw.com> On Apr 6, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Jay Savage wrote: > On Apr 5, 2005 3:15 PM, steve Rieger wrote: >> hi all, >> >> am working on a personal thing, and i would like to make a sexy gui >> for >> a script i have, this script asks the user questions and based on the >> answers it inserts data into a mysql db.i would like this gui/frontend >> to be cross platform, which rules out a few langs, can you folks >> recommend the pros and cons of what my options are, >> a few that come to mind are ruby, python, java etc.... >> >> thanx >> > > I'd say it depends at least in part what language the script is > already in, and how difficult it would be to rewrite it vs. how much > of a pain the gui is in whatever language it's already in. > > That said, the Python Tk bindings are nice. My personal favorite for > any database work remains Perl, and Perl/Tk is very nice and very > stable. Your decision will stem partly from the answer to "how sexy > is sexy?" but overall, it sounds like Qt or GTK are proably overkill > for what your talking about. > > You could also write it as CGI or PHP to make it extrememly > cross-platform, and use flash, javascript, etc., to make it as > sexy/annoying as you want. > > HTH, > > --jay > > for now its written in bash and in applescript. this is a desktop addon to rt, and i got a decent amount of requests to make it avaliable for the rt community in general, while i do not know python i am willing to learn.flash is out, and it does not have to be very sexy, but it does have to be functioonal. also if i write it in pythin will the end user then need to install python on their box to run this thingy ? -- Steve Rieger (212) 804-1131 (Work) (646) 335-8915 (Cell) chozrim (aim) From lists Wed Apr 6 15:06:32 2005 From: lists (Francisco Reyes) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <20050406142408.Y28468@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <20050406142408.Y28468@zoraida.natserv.net> Message-ID: <20050406150601.V28468@zoraida.natserv.net> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, steve Rieger wrote: > am working on a personal thing, and i would like to make a sexy gui for a > script i have, this script asks the user questions and based on the answers > it inserts data into a mysql db.i would like this gui/frontend to be cross > platform Have not used it, but another option may be PHP-GTK http://gtk.php.net -- http://stringsutils.com Utility for developers. Compute length, MD5, CRC and more. From chrisc Wed Apr 6 08:54:48 2005 From: chrisc (Chris Coleman) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:54:48 +0000 Subject: [nycbug-talk] BSD Binary Updates Message-ID: <4253DC18.6080204@daemonnews.org> Hi Everyone, We are currently beta testing a new site. http://www.bsdupdates.com The goal of this site is to make binary updates and upgrades available, some free some commercial. This is an extension off of the work done by Colin Percival on his FreeBSDUpdates project. Please take a look at the site and give feedback on what needs to change before we launched. There is one patch available that updates the security flaw in fetch. Let me know if you have any questions or difficulties. -Chris From nomadlogic Wed Apr 6 15:13:38 2005 From: nomadlogic (pete wright) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:13:38 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] BSD Binary Updates In-Reply-To: <4253DC18.6080204@daemonnews.org> References: <4253DC18.6080204@daemonnews.org> Message-ID: <57d7100005040612133acd25e1@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 6, 2005 5:54 AM, Chris Coleman wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > We are currently beta testing a new site. http://www.bsdupdates.com > > The goal of this site is to make binary updates and upgrades available, > some free some commercial. This is an extension off of the work done by > Colin Percival on his FreeBSDUpdates project. > > Please take a look at the site and give feedback on what needs to change > before we launched. There is one patch available that updates the > security flaw in fetch. Let me know if you have any questions or > difficulties. Chris, This looks very promising. I will have to give it a serious try when I have a sec. Quick question, are the binary patches pulled directly from the projects server? If so I assume the client does checksuming etc. I know I know, these are probably FAQ's that can be addressed by me running the thing :) -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From chrisc Wed Apr 6 09:12:49 2005 From: chrisc (Chris Coleman) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:12:49 +0000 Subject: [nycbug-talk] BSD Binary Updates In-Reply-To: <57d7100005040612133acd25e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4253DC18.6080204@daemonnews.org> <57d7100005040612133acd25e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4253E051.602@daemonnews.org> > > >. Quick question, are the binary patches pulled >directly from the projects server? If so I assume the client does >checksuming etc. I know I know, these are probably FAQ's that can be >addressed by me running the thing :) > > > There is quite a bit of encryption going on in this project. All communication with the server is done via SSL, both the web page and the client. We also use MD5s extensively through out the patching process to identify and verify files. Some of the internal communications are even key signed/encrypted. But we are still looking for more ways to make this more secure. -Chris From lists Wed Apr 6 15:58:22 2005 From: lists (Francisco Reyes) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <2c52faa9ee2c4181c87f61813403322c@n2sw.com> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <4ce365ec05040611491306ee2d@mail.gmail.com> <2c52faa9ee2c4181c87f61813403322c@n2sw.com> Message-ID: <20050406152403.R28870@zoraida.natserv.net> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, steve Rieger wrote: > also if i write it in pythin will the end user then need to install python on > their box to run this thingy ? Yes. You will need whatever interpreter you use to be installed. From george Wed Apr 6 16:02:27 2005 From: george (George Georgalis) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:02:27 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: <57d710000504061039171ac153@mail.gmail.com> References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> <57d710000504061039171ac153@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050406200227.GA16170@ixeon.local> On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 10:39:48AM -0700, pete wright wrote: >if you don't want to use knoppix (and have to wait to kde to load of >cd-rom) so out of touch.... don't even start X boot: knoppix 2 // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org From o_sleep Wed Apr 6 16:06:22 2005 From: o_sleep (Bjorn Nelson) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:06:22 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] BSD Binary Updates In-Reply-To: <4253DC18.6080204@daemonnews.org> References: <4253DC18.6080204@daemonnews.org> Message-ID: <3385df2b5d6790973294832126436da6@belovedarctos.com> On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:54 AM, Chris Coleman wrote: > We are currently beta testing a new site. http://www.bsdupdates.com > > The goal of this site is to make binary updates and upgrades > available, some free some commercial. This is an extension off of the > work done by Colin Percival on his FreeBSDUpdates project. > > Please take a look at the site and give feedback on what needs to > change before we launched. There is one patch available that updates > the security flaw in fetch. Let me know if you have any questions or > difficulties. Dang, and I was just starting to get used to radmind ;) This is great news, been looking for something like this. Btw, I get these warnings when trying to sign up. (Have verbose errors because you are still in testing mode?): Unknown column 'level' in 'field list' Warning: mkdir(/home/daemonnews/db/): File exists in /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php on line 102 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php:98) in /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php on line 104 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php:98) in /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php on line 105 -Bjorn From bob Wed Apr 6 16:23:27 2005 From: bob (Bob Ippolito) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:23:27 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <20050406152403.R28870@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <4ce365ec05040611491306ee2d@mail.gmail.com> <2c52faa9ee2c4181c87f61813403322c@n2sw.com> <20050406152403.R28870@zoraida.natserv.net> Message-ID: <21eb112f42c860fdcf5d7aa164aac1ab@redivi.com> On Apr 6, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, steve Rieger wrote: > >> also if i write it in pythin will the end user then need to install >> python on their box to run this thingy ? > > Yes. You will need whatever interpreter you use to be installed. No. There are tools like py2exe (win32), cx_Freeze (win32/unix), and py2app (Mac OS X) which bundle an application written in Python with the interpreter. -bob From nomadlogic Wed Apr 6 20:02:11 2005 From: nomadlogic (pete wright) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:02:11 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: <20050406200227.GA16170@ixeon.local> References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> <57d710000504061039171ac153@mail.gmail.com> <20050406200227.GA16170@ixeon.local> Message-ID: <57d710000504061702569cb99e@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 6, 2005 1:02 PM, George Georgalis wrote: > On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 10:39:48AM -0700, pete wright wrote: > > >if you don't want to use knoppix (and have to wait to kde to load of > >cd-rom) > > so out of touch.... don't even start X > > boot: knoppix 2 > heh...after i sent the email i figured knoppix had a non-X option. Thanks for calling me out of touch though.... -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From lists Wed Apr 6 20:31:10 2005 From: lists (Francisco Reyes) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <21eb112f42c860fdcf5d7aa164aac1ab@redivi.com> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <4ce365ec05040611491306ee2d@mail.gmail.com> <2c52faa9ee2c4181c87f61813403322c@n2sw.com> <20050406152403.R28870@zoraida.natserv.net> <21eb112f42c860fdcf5d7aa164aac1ab@redivi.com> Message-ID: <20050406202911.L30766@zoraida.natserv.net> On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Bob Ippolito wrote: > No. There are tools like py2exe (win32), cx_Freeze (win32/unix), and py2app > (Mac OS X) which bundle an application written in Python with the > interpreter. > -bob Great to know, but I thougth the original poster wanted code which would run as is.. if one has to go through compilation then even C/C++ or any cross platform compiled language can be considered as tools for the job. :-) From bob Wed Apr 6 23:50:39 2005 From: bob (Bob Ippolito) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 20:50:39 -0700 Subject: [nycbug-talk] script gui In-Reply-To: <20050406202911.L30766@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <805150995716bd31479fd35cc46f1b02@n2sw.com> <4ce365ec05040611491306ee2d@mail.gmail.com> <2c52faa9ee2c4181c87f61813403322c@n2sw.com> <20050406152403.R28870@zoraida.natserv.net> <21eb112f42c860fdcf5d7aa164aac1ab@redivi.com> <20050406202911.L30766@zoraida.natserv.net> Message-ID: <847beba05efb61e19e8291d92a8dea62@redivi.com> On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> No. There are tools like py2exe (win32), cx_Freeze (win32/unix), and >> py2app (Mac OS X) which bundle an application written in Python with >> the interpreter. > > Great to know, but I thougth the original poster wanted code which > would run as is.. if one has to go through compilation then even C/C++ > or any cross platform compiled language can be considered as tools > for the job. :-) Is it really non-obvious that a text file isn't going to do anything on a virgin computer without doing *something* to it first? By "this thingy", I'm sure he meant the application, not the text files that he was able to interpret as the application given all of the dependencies. I think you're arguing with me just because you were wrong :) -bob From nikolai.fetissov Thu Apr 7 09:33:50 2005 From: nikolai.fetissov (Nikolai N. Fetissov) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycbug-talk] No meeting audio this time, sorry Message-ID: <1244.63.66.6.21.1112880830.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> Yarema, folks, sorry, I messed up the recording yesterday. Was too tired, had wrong settings on the device. On the other hand I doubt the audio would be any useful since Yarema's presentation was in "character mode" anyway :) Will do better next time. George, you mentioned that people are translating BSD Cert docs to "other" languages. I can take over translating to Russian if nobody is doing this yet. Point me to the right place. -- nick From george Thu Apr 7 09:41:36 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:41:36 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] No meeting audio this time, sorry In-Reply-To: <1244.63.66.6.21.1112880830.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> References: <1244.63.66.6.21.1112880830.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> Message-ID: On Apr 7, 2005, at 9:33 AM, Nikolai N. Fetissov wrote: > Yarema, folks, sorry, > I messed up the recording yesterday. > Was too tired, had wrong settings on the device. > On the other hand I doubt the audio would be > any useful since Yarema's presentation was in > "character mode" anyway :) > Will do better next time. Oh well. . . . We all appreciate the fact that you have recorded others . . . > > George, you mentioned that people are translating > BSD Cert docs to "other" languages. I can take > over translating to Russian if nobody is doing this > yet. Point me to the right place. > There may already be a volunteer for Russian, but the more the better for each language for error-checking. . . http://bsdcertification.org/contrib.htm George From ike Thu Apr 7 12:43:19 2005 From: ike (Isaac Levy) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:43:19 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] No meeting audio this time, sorry In-Reply-To: References: <1244.63.66.6.21.1112880830.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> Message-ID: Yo Nikolai, On Apr 7, 2005, at 9:41 AM, George R. wrote: > Oh well. . . . We all appreciate the fact that you have recorded > others . . . Seriously man, thanks! Rocket- .ike From tillman Thu Apr 7 13:03:21 2005 From: tillman (Tillman Hodgson) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:03:21 -0600 Subject: [nycbug-talk] cgd on NetBSD/sparc32: dislabel problems Message-ID: <20050407170321.GZ81726@seekingfire.com> Howdy folks, I'm attempting to set up a small (1G) encrypted filesystem using cgd on a Sun SparcStation 10 with a DEC JBOD SCSI tower (makes a great NFS server with a Sun Swift card). I'm following both the cgd chapter of the NetBSD Guide and the netbsdcgd.html file from nycbug.org. The issue I'm running into is that I can't write a disklabel to the cgd0 device: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg/sgs] c: 2099820 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 1025*) e: 2099820 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 1025*) partition> W Label disk [n]? y write: Read-only file system Label not written Disklabel on a Sun box is weird in general (the '-r' thing and the requirements for offset to be an even multiple of s/c, for example). Has anyone else run into this and could give me a pointer? -T -- ... the most palpable description of bread is that of hunger. Tadeusz Rozewicz From paul Thu Apr 7 15:38:26 2005 From: paul (Paul Dlug) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:38:26 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] [Job] Systems Administrator, Ridge, NY (LIE Exit 68) Message-ID: <4cacfd9950b77c1b31385c5b621e5331@aps.org> We just started looking for a systems administrator, I pasted the job ad below. If anyone has questions they can feel free to contact me. I should note that the environment is mostly FreeBSD at this point with some Linux (growing) and Solaris (shrinking). Thanks, Paul Dlug Systems Administration Supervisor American Physical Society Systems Administrator The American Physical Society, a leading publisher of scientific journals, based in Suffolk County, LI, (LIE exit 68 - near Brookhaven National Laboratory) seeks a Systems Administrator. This is an exciting opportunity to be part of a small team that is responsible for the functions of the computer systems, network, and application infrastructure at a medium sized business. Strong knowledge and solid work experience is required with the following: * Unix systems administration (Linux, FreeBSD and Mac OS X preferred). * Hardware selection, maintenance, and repair (x86, Sun, Mac). * Programming in a language such as perl, python, ruby. * Storage technologies (RAID, NFS, iSCSI, Netapp, etc.) * Networking with TCP/IP, routers, switches, load balancers, etc. * Directory services using DNS and LDAP. * Configuration and deployment of web services (Apache, Tomcat, mod_perl, php, etc.). * Mail services (sendmail, postfix, SMTP). * Experience with Mac OS X administration is desirable, experience with radmind is a big plus. * Automating tasks in large scale server deployments. Must have excellent English communication skills, be a team player, and be service oriented. Participation in an "on call" rotation is required along with occasional travel to our colocation facility in NY, NY. Outstanding benefits package and job stability. Check out our website: www.aps.org. For consideration, send cover letter (including starting salary requirement) and resume via fax, e-mail or U.S. mail to: American Physical Society Attn: HR Director 1 Research Road Box 9000 Ridge, NY 11961 Fax: (631)591-4155 Email: recruit at aps.org From george Thu Apr 7 15:45:29 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:45:29 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] [Job] Systems Administrator, Ridge, NY (LIE Exit 68) In-Reply-To: <4cacfd9950b77c1b31385c5b621e5331@aps.org> References: <4cacfd9950b77c1b31385c5b621e5331@aps.org> Message-ID: On Apr 7, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Paul Dlug wrote: > We just started looking for a systems administrator, I pasted the job > ad below. If anyone has questions they can feel free to contact me. I > should note that the environment is mostly FreeBSD at this point with > some Linux (growing) and Solaris (shrinking). > You should use jobs on lists.nycbug.org for job postings. . . Not that we moderate anything. . . no big deal. . . g From george Thu Apr 7 21:04:36 2005 From: george (George Georgalis) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:04:36 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] problem booting FBSD 4.11 or 5.3 In-Reply-To: <57d710000504061702569cb99e@mail.gmail.com> References: <088f4c2fd2f250d95be1a8a532c52fb5@sddi.net> <57d710000504061039171ac153@mail.gmail.com> <20050406200227.GA16170@ixeon.local> <57d710000504061702569cb99e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050408010436.GA7220@sta.local> On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 05:02:11PM -0700, pete wright wrote: >On Apr 6, 2005 1:02 PM, George Georgalis wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 10:39:48AM -0700, pete wright wrote: >> >> >if you don't want to use knoppix (and have to wait to kde to load of >> >cd-rom) >> >> so out of touch.... don't even start X >> >> boot: knoppix 2 >> > >heh...after i sent the email i figured knoppix had a non-X option. >Thanks for calling me out of touch though.... Hey man, don't take it so hard. I probably went to graphical mode 100 times before someone told me I could boot into text. :-0 Anyway guess I got a little excited about knowing something useful on linux after all the bsd glares I normaly get for that word. ...recovering from a cdrom erased by writing with a non-sharpy pen... // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george at galis.org From chrisc Fri Apr 8 01:21:59 2005 From: chrisc (Chris Coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 00:21:59 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] BSD Binary Updates In-Reply-To: <3385df2b5d6790973294832126436da6@belovedarctos.com> References: <4253DC18.6080204@daemonnews.org> <3385df2b5d6790973294832126436da6@belovedarctos.com> Message-ID: <859b8d20251553153fec0e2bc3fe779a@daemonnews.org> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll get it fixed shortly. -Chris On Apr 6, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Bjorn Nelson wrote: > On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:54 AM, Chris Coleman wrote: >> We are currently beta testing a new site. http://www.bsdupdates.com >> >> The goal of this site is to make binary updates and upgrades >> available, some free some commercial. This is an extension off of >> the work done by Colin Percival on his FreeBSDUpdates project. >> >> Please take a look at the site and give feedback on what needs to >> change before we launched. There is one patch available that updates >> the security flaw in fetch. Let me know if you have any questions or >> difficulties. > > Dang, and I was just starting to get used to radmind ;) > > This is great news, been looking for something like this. > > Btw, I get these warnings when trying to sign up. (Have verbose > errors because you are still in testing mode?): > Unknown column 'level' in 'field list' > Warning: mkdir(/home/daemonnews/db/): File exists in > /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php on line 102 > > Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by > (output started at > /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php:98) in > /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php on line 104 > > Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by > (output started at > /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php:98) in > /home/daemonnews/www/bsdupdates.com/register.php on line 105 > > -Bjorn > From chrisc Fri Apr 8 01:46:34 2005 From: chrisc (Chris Coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 00:46:34 -0500 Subject: [nycbug-talk] BSD Binary Updates In-Reply-To: <859b8d20251553153fec0e2bc3fe779a@daemonnews.org> References: <4253DC18.6080204@daemonnews.org> <3385df2b5d6790973294832126436da6@belovedarctos.com> <859b8d20251553153fec0e2bc3fe779a@daemonnews.org> Message-ID: <212bcd840d3893dd413b09746fe2dfff@daemonnews.org> Ok, I have the website fixed so people can login. I'm looking into the error reporting, I thought I had turned it off already. Also, I uploaded the 2nd security patch to the site and it includes all the latest fixes for FreeBSD 5.3, including the sendfile patches. So testing things out and let me know what you think. Someone e-mailed me asking if the patches are md5 checked and I'm going to add this to the FAQ, but yes they are. All the communication between the server and client is done over SSL and MD5s are used extensively through out the whole process. -Chris From george Fri Apr 8 10:22:40 2005 From: george (George R.) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:22:40 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] Apple space Message-ID: <410ab5499d85e46ae743ab98886b2c03@sddi.net> This past Wednesday, our meeting moved to the Apple Store basement. Personally, I thought the space worked well. . . . If it's possible, how would everyone feel about moving the meetings there regularly? Theater pro: better visibility, larger screen con: noise, distractions basement pro: 'intimacy' con: less accessible, can't fit millions if millions show up George From bschonhorst Fri Apr 8 10:32:09 2005 From: bschonhorst (Brad Schonhorst) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:32:09 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] Apple space In-Reply-To: <410ab5499d85e46ae743ab98886b2c03@sddi.net> References: <410ab5499d85e46ae743ab98886b2c03@sddi.net> Message-ID: On Apr 8, 2005, at 10:22 AM, George R. wrote: > This past Wednesday, our meeting moved to the Apple Store basement. > > Personally, I thought the space worked well. . . . If it's possible, > how would everyone feel about moving the meetings there regularly? We would have to make a point to advertise that meetings are in the basement and provide clear directions (take the elevator.) I showed up late and asked several employees about the meeting and they all shrugged. I even got on the elevator and an employee told me I wasn't supposed to be there. -Brad From chsnyder Fri Apr 8 10:39:16 2005 From: chsnyder (csnyder) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:39:16 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] Apple space In-Reply-To: References: <410ab5499d85e46ae743ab98886b2c03@sddi.net> Message-ID: Brad Schonhorst wrote: > I even got on the elevator and an employee told me I wasn't > supposed to be there. Maybe once they move the top-secret Apple Spy Satellite out of the basement they'll be able to relax security a little bit... From swygue Fri Apr 8 10:52:13 2005 From: swygue (swygue) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:52:13 -0400 Subject: [nycbug-talk] Apple space In-Reply-To: References: <410ab5499d85e46ae743ab98886b2c03@sddi.net> Message-ID: > Personally, I thought the space worked well. . . . If it's possible, > how would everyone feel about moving the meetings there regularly? Yes! Yes! I am all for moving the meeting to the basement. Not only can I hear the speaker, but it adds a personal touch and it shows that we mean business. > We would have to make a point to advertise that meetings are in the > basement and provide clear directions (take the elevator.) You are right, I remember my first meeting and none of the employees knew about the meeting. I can just imagine the amount of people that will be turned away.