[nycbug-talk] Conference Topics Thread

[nikolai]

> On 6/19/06, Peter Wright <pete at nomadlogic.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Peter Wright writes:
>> >
>> >> I like that idea, although I personally would like to see specific
>> >> situations where perl, for example, was used as a tool to solve a
>> >> problem
>> >> (including anaylsis, which modules where used etc.).
>> >
>> > I think it highly depends on the target audience.
>> >
>> >
>> >> I think for the long term it's the process an admin goes through more
>> >> than
>> >> the specifics of the lang itself.
>> >
>> > This is why I thought of showing the basics on several, rather than
>> one.
>> > Many admins may learn let's say perl and try to do everything with it.
>> > Just
>> > because it is the only tool they know off.
>> >
>> > By showing, mostly new, admins the different tools they can use
>> perhaps
>> > they
>> > will better able to decide what they need to use for a particular
>> problem.
>> >
>> > As an example:
>> > Say an admin has some data he needs to get from a log file. If all he
>> > knows
>> > of is perl he may try and learn how to read a file from perl or do
>> > re-direction.. then will have to figure out how to parse, etc...
>> whereas
>> > the
>> > 'cut' utility may be all he needs. If he doesn't know it exists then
>> he
>> > will
>> > be stuck trying to use the only tool he does know.
>> >
>> > Without knowing target audience level it's kind of hard to tell which
>> > approach may be better. However I think covering examples in several
>> > approaches in a sort of recipies way,  may perhaps help more people.
>> They
>> > basically can come out of the session with specific things to try.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> yea i guess you are correct, i was assuming we would be addressing a
>> higher level audience.  maybe not.
>>
>> -pete
>
>
> Please don't leave out Junior Systems Admins, or  Admins from windows
> world,
> where there's no 'cut' utility.
>
And please don't leave out poor VB developers
who never heard of BSD and don't know what
command line looks like :)
--
 nikolai