> let me just say one thing; columbia is NOT giving anything to us for > free. yes, we are paying for it. wow...that sucks. let me honestly appologise. I'm sorry about that. I was under the impression we got the room for free when kirk came. -- ~~oO00Oo~~ Peter Wright pete at nomadlogic.org www.nomadlogic.org/~pete 310.869.9459