fun way to waste some time at work...not that anyone here has a chance to do that ;) http://google.com/codesearch?q=+kirk+mckusick (the first hit here is pretty priceless): http://google.com/codesearch?q=%22rocks%21%22&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr= -pete -- ~~oO00Oo~~ Peter Wright pete at nomadlogic.org www.nomadlogic.org/~pete 310.869.9459