[nycbug-talk] IPv6 NY-US Roll Call

alex at pilosoft.com alex at pilosoft.com
Thu Mar 22 15:35:30 EDT 2007

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Yusuke Shinyama wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:51:23 -0400 (EDT), alex at pilosoft.com wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Isaac Levy wrote:
> > 
> > > Does anyone on this list, in NY or America in general run IPv6 services?
> > Seriously? As in production, money-carrying traffic? No.
> > 
> > On nanog conferences, it is always talked about, but it is a 
> > chicken-and-egg problem: providers will not sell IPv6 until there's 
> > customer demand. There's no demand, cause, well, why'd you *want* ipv6.
> This reminds me the points that Daniel Bernstein has made several years
> ago... http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html
djb is generally on crack, half of that paper is wrong, but the general 
idea is still correct - there isn't any need for IPv6, so there's no push 
either by clients or carriers to implement it.

> Well, I have seen lots of arguments for IPv6 in Japan... and they are
> actually being deployed for IP phones.  But it seems they're used as an
> alternative network rather than the global replacement of IPv4.

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