[nycbug-talk] fave BSD tips/tricks?

[George Rosamond]

Brian Cully wrote:
> On 26-Aug-2009, at 03:36, Andy Kosela wrote:
>> I generally agree with Miles here, but still think that X11 on the
>> production server (say DNS or mail) is not really necessary and it  
>> saves
>> you from some bloat.  For me the UNIX toolkit is strictly CLI tools --
>> X11 is only good for a desktop machine anyway.
> 
> 	X has proved its worth to me on production servers many times in the  
> past, from using it for ethereal/wireshark to Erlang's tcl/tk  
> toolkits, to being able to run purify on a production daemon to nail  
> down a crash. It strikes me as the same kind of problems as logs, only  
> less-so: you don't often need full logging, but when you do, it's a  
> life saver, so it's good to have them even if you don't think you'll  
> need them.
> 
> 	As George says, it's not 1995 anymore. Developers are starting to  
> reach for GUI toolkits for administration over CLI, and some tasks are  
> just plain better done in GUI, anyway (wireshark is a huge win over  
> tcpdump, especially in a crunch).

I was hoping that this thread would either go back to its relevant 
beginnings, or just die.  Still have my fingers crossed.

My "it's not 1995" comment wasn't about dropping the CLI, it was about 
spammers scrapping the world for email addresses.

g