From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Tue Feb  1 11:19:09 2011
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac Levy)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:19:09 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] IPV4 Exhausted Today? from the top...
Message-ID: <201102011620.p11GK2wL019368@rs75.luxsci.com>

Hi All,

IPv6 time?
http://seclists.org/nanog/2011/Jan/1737

Today, IANA (The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) allocated it's last 2 IPv4 netblocks- both were /8's.  IANA has 5 /8's left.

Rocket,
.ike




From njt at ayvali.org  Tue Feb  1 14:59:22 2011
From: njt at ayvali.org (N.J. Thomas)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:59:22 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] IPV4 Exhausted Today? from the top...
In-Reply-To: <201102011620.p11GK2wL019368@rs75.luxsci.com>
References: <201102011620.p11GK2wL019368@rs75.luxsci.com>
Message-ID: <20110201195922.GY9931@zaph.org>

* Isaac Levy <ike at blackskyresearch.net> [2011-02-01 11:19:09-0500]:
> Today, IANA (The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) allocated it's
> last 2 IPv4 netblocks- both were /8's. IANA has 5 /8's left.

Yup. And those remaining /8's will be allocated to the 5 RIRs very
shortly, probably this week.

Thomas


From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Feb  1 19:40:28 2011
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 19:40:28 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] libreoffice: another milestone today
Message-ID: <4D48A7FC.8010003@ceetonetechnology.com>

I realize there is some (ahem) significance to running out of IPv4 
addresses. . but in the FreeBSD ports this might also be notable for the 
day:

http://www.freshports.org/editors/libreoffice/

It's the fork from OpenOffice.org that seems to have some volition.

g


From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Fri Feb  4 09:23:33 2011
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:23:33 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] Wednesday meeting
Message-ID: <4D4C0BE5.10702@ceetonetechnology.com>

For those who weren't there, our "BSD Networking" theme worked out well.

Ike and Mark spoke about network card bonding, CARP and plotting traffic.

We didn't manage to get to Bruno talking about pf tagging. . . but it 
will be first on the agenda for our next BSD networking meeting, most 
likely in June.

Regarding our data center cabinet, we had a volunteer to run an OpenBSD 
mirror, with details to be sorted out soon.  And there has been some 
discussion about another project to host.

g



From nikolai at fetissov.org  Sat Feb  5 15:39:06 2011
From: nikolai at fetissov.org (Nikolai Fetissov)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:39:06 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] February 2011 meeting audio
Message-ID: <22b6f62bec679161f468ff71ca208916.squirrel@geekisp.com>

Folks,

Audio recording of "BSD Networking" presentations is online at
http://www.fetissov.org/public/nycbug/nycbug-02-02-11.mp3

Cheers,
--
 Nikolai


From brian.gupta at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 05:21:43 2011
From: brian.gupta at gmail.com (Brian Gupta)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:21:43 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] Fwd: Tuesday Feb 15th 6:30PM PuppetNYC meeting - Come
 share your experience using puppet
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=R6amKnRfmKgFgx-k_y6x5z_aFJMZZoqRR4Fwq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikvAf7+rven7ToW+eOPCabe9FSWPKGopsLQRTfE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=R6amKnRfmKgFgx-k_y6x5z_aFJMZZoqRR4Fwq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPCtyuw3SM9EotiDqCHQeFfeX_5G0F_r8fgGxr@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys, I'm sure many of you guys already know about this, but we
are gonna be meeting again after a relatively long hiatus. Please come
and share. (RSVP mandatory)

- Brian Gupta

New York City user groups calendar:
http://nyc.brandorr.com/

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brian Gupta <brian.gupta at brandorr.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:14 PM
Subject: Tuesday Feb 15th 6:30PM PuppetNYC meeting - Come share your
experience using puppet
To: puppet-nyc at googlegroups.com


Are you an active user of puppet[1] living in NY/NJ/CT and looking
forward to share your experiences? (Or want to be?)

Please join us next Tuesday, February 15th at Gilt Groupe in Midtown
Manhattan for PuppetNYC's first 2011 meeting. ?RSVP required:
http://puppetnyc.eventbrite.com

This will be an informal and interactive discussion, where attendees
are invited to talk to the group about how they are using puppet (for
instance: what kind of resources are being managed, challenges that
you have seen while deploying puppet, tricks/tips, rants). We're
envisioning 5-20 minutes per person, but nothing is set in stone.

As we haven't met in a while, and because people's interests change
over time, we'd also like hear what people envision for this group.

If you are interested in giving a presentation on an intermediate to
advanced topic for this or future meetings, please stop by our mailing
list and let us know: http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-nyc

After the meeting (8:30 PM or so), we plan to adjourn to Rattle-N-Hum
(14 East 33rd Street) for some relaxing, socializing and bonding.

As mentioned earlier we do have have an existing mailing list, where
we discuss planning meetings and puppet. Please do subscribe, as it is
relatively low traffic: http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-nyc

Directions:

Gilt Groupe - 2 Park Ave, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10016 (32nd street &
Park Avenue) http://goo.gl/maps/uCgR

Rattle-N-Hum - 14 East 33rd Street (32nd btwn Madison and 5th)
http://goo.gl/maps/YfIz

[1] http://www.puppetlabs.com

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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Fri Feb 11 07:54:22 2011
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:54:22 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] Fwd: Tuesday Feb 15th 6:30PM PuppetNYC meeting -
 Come share your experience using puppet
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPCtyuw3SM9EotiDqCHQeFfeX_5G0F_r8fgGxr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikvAf7+rven7ToW+eOPCabe9FSWPKGopsLQRTfE@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTi=R6amKnRfmKgFgx-k_y6x5z_aFJMZZoqRR4Fwq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikPCtyuw3SM9EotiDqCHQeFfeX_5G0F_r8fgGxr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D55317E.4040304@ceetonetechnology.com>

On 02/11/11 05:21, Brian Gupta wrote:
> Hey guys, I'm sure many of you guys already know about this, but we
> are gonna be meeting again after a relatively long hiatus. Please come

This is NOT an announce list and should not be used as such, 
particularly for 3rd party events.

If you want to submit other events, use our www site:

http://www.nycbug.org/index.php?NAV=Add%20Content

g


From korszca at gmail.com  Fri Feb 11 15:13:36 2011
From: korszca at gmail.com (Brian Callahan)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:13:36 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] A NYCBUG OpenBSD Mirror
Message-ID: <AANLkTin6Wao1F8nbVmbY3ERMjVPZFCiNRo9oUwxa-Wkv@mail.gmail.com>

Hello talk@,

Those of you who attended the last NYCBUG meeting, George mentioned starting
an OpenBSD mirror. I have volunteered to start that mirror. I need your help
though getting the mirror up and started. What I am looking for is a 1u or
2u server, preferably with rails, that can use SATA or SAS drives. The
server should be a Pentium 4 or better. I am also looking for SATA and/or
SAS drives to populate the mirror. Do not feel that you need to donate
everything, I will take chassis and drives seperately.

Our goal is to have the mirror accessable via http, ftp, and anoncvs at the
minimum. We are also looking to use the mirror as an archive of OpenBSD
releases.

If you can help in any way, please send me an email off-list.

Thank you,

~Brian
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From brian.gupta at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 10:47:44 2011
From: brian.gupta at gmail.com (Brian Gupta)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:47:44 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] Fwd: Tuesday Feb 15th 6:30PM PuppetNYC meeting -
 Come share your experience using puppet
In-Reply-To: <4D55317E.4040304@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <AANLkTikvAf7+rven7ToW+eOPCabe9FSWPKGopsLQRTfE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=R6amKnRfmKgFgx-k_y6x5z_aFJMZZoqRR4Fwq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikPCtyuw3SM9EotiDqCHQeFfeX_5G0F_r8fgGxr@mail.gmail.com>
	<4D55317E.4040304@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim1Hs+SFMSURvgh8QUWc8SDF285zFcnu_S0Ye86@mail.gmail.com>

George,

My apologies, I try to be selective about what I do crosspost to this
list, and in this case felt that since a number of NYCBUGers are using
puppet, and that puppet has been a past presentation topic of the
group, that this would be of general interest to the NYCBUG
membership. Not that it makes a difference, but I have crossposted
past puppet meetings to this list and haven't been told not to do it,
so I assumed it was acceptable. (I posted this to every particular
meeting to every major sysadmin-affiliated group in NYC that I am a
member of, including NYLUG, LOPSA, and UNIGROUP. If you would like me
to exclude NYCBUG from anything of interest in the future I will do
so.)

- Brian Gupta

P.S. - If you want to discuss this offline, you can reach me at
brian.gupta at brandorr.com

New York City user groups calendar:
http://nyc.brandorr.com/

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:54 AM, George Rosamond
<george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
> On 02/11/11 05:21, Brian Gupta wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys, I'm sure many of you guys already know about this, but we
>> are gonna be meeting again after a relatively long hiatus. Please come
>
> This is NOT an announce list and should not be used as such, particularly
> for 3rd party events.
>
> If you want to submit other events, use our www site:
>
> http://www.nycbug.org/index.php?NAV=Add%20Content
>
> g
>


From submodd at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 11:34:23 2011
From: submodd at gmail.com (george magiros)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:34:23 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] February 2011 meeting audio
In-Reply-To: <22b6f62bec679161f468ff71ca208916.squirrel@geekisp.com>
References: <22b6f62bec679161f468ff71ca208916.squirrel@geekisp.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimU0GXNmcmhhCTA2NkAkEjEFNXHDXukgEGHcxs0@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I missed it - still looking for work so have been busy.  If anyone
knows anyone hiring tell them to call me.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Nikolai Fetissov <nikolai at fetissov.org>wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Audio recording of "BSD Networking" presentations is online at
> http://www.fetissov.org/public/nycbug/nycbug-02-02-11.mp3
>
> Cheers,
> --
>  Nikolai
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Mon Feb 14 13:34:29 2011
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:34:29 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] February 2011 meeting audio
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimU0GXNmcmhhCTA2NkAkEjEFNXHDXukgEGHcxs0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22b6f62bec679161f468ff71ca208916.squirrel@geekisp.com>
	<AANLkTimU0GXNmcmhhCTA2NkAkEjEFNXHDXukgEGHcxs0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D5975B5.6030006@ceetonetechnology.com>

On 02/14/11 11:34, george magiros wrote:
> Sorry I missed it - still looking for work so have been busy.  If anyone
> knows anyone hiring tell them to call me.

Try the jobs@ list.

lists.nycbug.org

George


From lists at stringsutils.com  Thu Feb 17 22:57:41 2011
From: lists at stringsutils.com (Francisco Reyes)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:57:41 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
Message-ID: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>

Setting up a new network and looking into switches.

So far considering Cisco and Juniper.
For example
 
Cisco Small Business 300 Series Managed Switch SG300-52 - switch - 52 ports
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=2198250
$979.99

  
Juniper EX 2200 48T - switch - 48 ports - managed - desktop
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1971214
$1,614.99

Price wise the Cisco seems like a better deal, but I am trying to make sure 
whatever I recommend will play nice with FreeBSD+LAG.

Also, how about ease of learning? I don't consider myself a "network 
person", but right now I will be the one setting up whatever switches we 
get. And of course networking is neither my primary role, nor what I am 
expected to spend most of my time.... but I will have to manage the network 
for the foreseable future.


Thoughts/Suggestions?


From jason at dixongroup.net  Thu Feb 17 23:01:53 2011
From: jason at dixongroup.net (Jason Dixon)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:01:53 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
In-Reply-To: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>
References: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>
Message-ID: <20110218040153.GA18440@dixongroup.net>

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:57:41PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> Setting up a new network and looking into switches.
>
> So far considering Cisco and Juniper.
> For example
>
> Cisco Small Business 300 Series Managed Switch SG300-52 - switch - 52 ports
> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=2198250
> $979.99
>
>  Juniper EX 2200 48T - switch - 48 ports - managed - desktop
> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1971214
> $1,614.99
>
> Price wise the Cisco seems like a better deal, but I am trying to make 
> sure whatever I recommend will play nice with FreeBSD+LAG.
>
> Also, how about ease of learning? I don't consider myself a "network  
> person", but right now I will be the one setting up whatever switches we  
> get. And of course networking is neither my primary role, nor what I am  
> expected to spend most of my time.... but I will have to manage the 
> network for the foreseable future.

I'm sorry for being "that guy", but have you considered the Foundry
FastIrons? I've been very happy with their performance and support for
*BSD network protocols.  We used quite a few LS-648's at OmniTI and were
quite pleased with their price/performance.

P.S. Oops, they're s/Foundry/Brocade/ now.

-- 
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net/


From lists at stringsutils.com  Fri Feb 18 08:34:31 2011
From: lists at stringsutils.com (Francisco Reyes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:34:31 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
References: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>
	<20110218040153.GA18440@dixongroup.net>
Message-ID: <cone.1298036071.92546.32752.1000@shelca>

Jason Dixon writes:

> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:57:41PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
>> Setting up a new network and looking into switches.
>>
>> So far considering Cisco and Juniper.
>> For example
>>
>> Cisco Small Business 300 Series Managed Switch SG300-52 - switch - 52 ports
>> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=2198250
>> $979.99
>>
>>  Juniper EX 2200 48T - switch - 48 ports - managed - desktop
>> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1971214
>> $1,614.99

> I'm sorry for being "that guy", but have you considered the Foundry
> FastIrons? I've been very happy with their performance and support for
> *BSD network protocols.  We used quite a few LS-648's at OmniTI and were
> quite pleased with their price/performance.


The prices I am seeing for Brocade are upwards of 3K.
 
Brocade FastIron LS FLS648 - switch - 48 ports
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1159518
$3,669.99


From stucchi at briantel.com  Fri Feb 18 08:41:03 2011
From: stucchi at briantel.com (Massimiliano Stucchi)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:41:03 +0100
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
In-Reply-To: <cone.1298036071.92546.32752.1000@shelca>
References: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>	<20110218040153.GA18440@dixongroup.net>
	<cone.1298036071.92546.32752.1000@shelca>
Message-ID: <4D5E76EF.6020202@briantel.com>

On 18/02/11 14:34, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> Jason Dixon writes:
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:57:41PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
>>> Setting up a new network and looking into switches.
>>>
>>> So far considering Cisco and Juniper.
>>> For example
>>>
>>> Cisco Small Business 300 Series Managed Switch SG300-52 - switch - 52
>>> ports
>>> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=2198250
>>> $979.99
>>>
>>>  Juniper EX 2200 48T - switch - 48 ports - managed - desktop
>>> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1971214
>>> $1,614.99
> 
>> I'm sorry for being "that guy", but have you considered the Foundry
>> FastIrons? I've been very happy with their performance and support for
>> *BSD network protocols.  We used quite a few LS-648's at OmniTI and were
>> quite pleased with their price/performance.
> 
> 
> The prices I am seeing for Brocade are upwards of 3K.

Okay, so let's start from what you actually need.

Do you need a Top Of Rack type of switch, ore something to aggregate, or
a mix of those ?

How many ports do you need ?

Ciao

PS: we're actually getting a bit off-topic over here.  Is this okay ?

-- 

Massimiliano Stucchi
BrianTel Srl
stucchi at briantel.com
Tel (+39) 039 9669921 | Fax (+39) 02 44417204
I-23807, Merate (Lecco), via Mameli 6
MS16801-RIPE


From akosela at andykosela.com  Fri Feb 18 07:56:06 2011
From: akosela at andykosela.com (Andy Kosela)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:56:06 +0100
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
In-Reply-To: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>
References: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHLyonBr_NANVjCBde19rOhXxZRx_7WiVhAmiU@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Francisco Reyes <lists at stringsutils.com> wrote:
> Setting up a new network and looking into switches.
>
> So far considering Cisco and Juniper.
> For example
>
> Cisco Small Business 300 Series Managed Switch SG300-52 - switch - 52 ports
> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=2198250
> $979.99
>
> ?Juniper EX 2200 48T - switch - 48 ports - managed - desktop
> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1971214
> $1,614.99
>
> Price wise the Cisco seems like a better deal, but I am trying to make sure
> whatever I recommend will play nice with FreeBSD+LAG.
>
> Also, how about ease of learning? I don't consider myself a "network
> person", but right now I will be the one setting up whatever switches we
> get. And of course networking is neither my primary role, nor what I am
> expected to spend most of my time.... but I will have to manage the network
> for the foreseable future.
>
>
> Thoughts/Suggestions?

If you are on a tight budget I recommend good old Catalysts 2950.  You
can buy them on ebay as low as $150 for 48 ports version.  These
models are rock solid and I definetly recommend them.

--Andy


From pete at nomadlogic.org  Fri Feb 18 11:49:30 2011
From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:49:30 +0000
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
In-Reply-To: <20110218040153.GA18440@dixongroup.net>
References: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>
	<20110218040153.GA18440@dixongroup.net>
Message-ID: <20110218164926.GA2354@pv.nomadlogic.org>

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:01:53PM -0500, Jason Dixon wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:57:41PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> > Setting up a new network and looking into switches.
> >
> > So far considering Cisco and Juniper.
> > For example
> >
> > Cisco Small Business 300 Series Managed Switch SG300-52 - switch - 52 ports
> > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=2198250
> > $979.99
> >
> >  Juniper EX 2200 48T - switch - 48 ports - managed - desktop
> > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1971214
> > $1,614.99
> >
> > Price wise the Cisco seems like a better deal, but I am trying to make 
> > sure whatever I recommend will play nice with FreeBSD+LAG.
> >
> > Also, how about ease of learning? I don't consider myself a "network  
> > person", but right now I will be the one setting up whatever switches we  
> > get. And of course networking is neither my primary role, nor what I am  
> > expected to spend most of my time.... but I will have to manage the 
> > network for the foreseable future.
> 
> I'm sorry for being "that guy", but have you considered the Foundry
> FastIrons? I've been very happy with their performance and support for
> *BSD network protocols.  We used quite a few LS-648's at OmniTI and were
> quite pleased with their price/performance.
> 

oh man i worked at a couple foundry^H^Hbrocade shops.  they seemed to
work ok in our datacenter environment - although don't get sucked into
buying the low-end distribution switches.  we hit a bug in these guys,
which we were using as closet switches for desktop users, where they
would stop responding to ping requests (among some other nasty dhcp
releated issues).  since foundry does all of their
logic in ASIC on these lower end switches they said the bug couldn't be
fixed and "we probably should have bought the 'premium' switches".


that is when i learned about the benefit of networking gear running it's
OS in flashable memory :)

-p

-- 
Pete Wright
pete at nomadlogic.org



From lists at stringsutils.com  Fri Feb 18 15:08:12 2011
From: lists at stringsutils.com (Francisco Reyes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:08:12 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
References: <cone.1298001461.729772.32752.1000@shelca>
	<20110218040153.GA18440@dixongroup.net>
	<cone.1298036071.92546.32752.1000@shelca>
	<4D5E76EF.6020202@briantel.com>
Message-ID: <cone.1298059692.207928.32752.1000@shelca>

Massimiliano Stucchi writes:

> Okay, so let's start from what you actually need.
48+ ports
Plays nice with FreeBSD+Lag

> Do you need a Top Of Rack type of switch, ore something to aggregate, or
> a mix of those ?

Ideally I would like to connect 2 cards to 2 switches, but I have not even 
found if that is doable or if I will need something like Carp.

Two connections to the same switch would give better performance, in theory 
at least, but I am more concerned with redundant connection in case of one 
of the switches dying.



From nylug at sky-haven.net  Sat Feb 19 17:17:56 2011
From: nylug at sky-haven.net (nylug at sky-haven.net)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:17:56 +0000
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
In-Reply-To: <cone.1298059692.207928.32752.1000@shelca>
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On 02/18/2011 20:08, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> Ideally I would like to connect 2 cards to 2 switches, but I have not
> even found if that is doable or if I will need something like Carp.
>
> Two connections to the same switch would give better performance, in
> theory at least, but I am more concerned with redundant connection in
> case of one of the switches dying.

If you want to have, say, one server with more than 1 NIC, with each NIC 
connecting to a port on separate switches yet participating in the same 
broadcast domain (e.g. same MAC for both connections), this can be done 
w/o any special switch support using lagg failover.


From bonsaime at gmail.com  Sun Feb 20 05:00:52 2011
From: bonsaime at gmail.com (Jesse Callaway)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 05:00:52 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
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Its true. Nothing special is needed for this setup aside from host
configuration. We were using d-links (sic) for this same setup at my old
job. Worked great. Only go for the high end gear if you need high throughput
and l3 protcols.
Try it out with $20 switches first. Its nice to have a safety net, so the
guy I worked for decided to run lacp on the switches to suppress loops.

On Feb 19, 2011 5:19 PM, <nylug at sky-haven.net> wrote:

On 02/18/2011 20:08, Francisco Reyes wrote:
>
> Ideally I would like to connect 2 cards to 2 switche...
If you want to have, say, one server with more than 1 NIC, with each NIC
connecting to a port on separate switches yet participating in the same
broadcast domain (e.g. same MAC for both connections), this can be done w/o
any special switch support using lagg failover.


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From bonsaime at gmail.com  Sun Feb 20 04:50:13 2011
From: bonsaime at gmail.com (Jesse Callaway)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 04:50:13 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
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On Feb 19, 2011 5:19 PM, <nylug at sky-haven.net> wrote:

On 02/18/2011 20:08, Francisco Reyes wrote:
>
> Ideally I would like to connect 2 cards to 2 switche...
If you want to have, say, one server with more than 1 NIC, with each NIC
connecting to a port on separate switches yet participating in the same
broadcast domain (e.g. same MAC for both connections), this can be done w/o
any special switch support using lagg failover.


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From lists at stringsutils.com  Mon Feb 21 10:00:28 2011
From: lists at stringsutils.com (Francisco Reyes)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:00:28 -0500
Subject: [nycbug-talk] OT: Juniper or Cisco Switches?
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Jesse Callaway writes:

> job. Worked great. Only go for the high end gear if you need high 
> throughput and l3 protcols.

Thanks. I guess I will got with the $900 Cisco then.
We need the ports and the Cisco has 50.

> Try it out with $20 switches first. Its nice to have a safety net, so the 
> guy I worked for decided to run lacp on the switches to suppress loops.

The cisco's will support LACP so I may try that depending on how much time
I will have.