From ike at blackskyresearch.net Mon Feb 3 09:07:42 2014 From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:07:42 +0000 Subject: AS/netblock as managed service? Message-ID: <201402031407.s13E7guK029655@rs102.luxsci.com> Hi All, Somewhat short-term, (1 year or more), I'm looking for a managed service to handle BGP for a netblock. Basically, I'm trying to punt on handling bgp in our ourganization, until we've cleared some heavy brush in other parts of our infrastructure. We can easily get help from our Colo service providers, but we're trying to de-couple our relationships with them... Does anyone know of such "managed BGP" services? Best, .ike From pete at nomadlogic.org Mon Feb 3 12:39:38 2014 From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 09:39:38 -0800 Subject: AS/netblock as managed service? In-Reply-To: <201402031407.s13E7guK029655@rs102.luxsci.com> References: <201402031407.s13E7guK029655@rs102.luxsci.com> Message-ID: <52EFD45A.4000505@nomadlogic.org> On 02/03/14 06:07, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote: > > Hi All, > > Somewhat short-term, (1 year or more), I'm looking for a managed service > to handle BGP for a netblock. > > Basically, I'm trying to punt on handling bgp in our ourganization, > until we've cleared some heavy brush in other parts of our > infrastructure. We can easily get help from our Colo service providers, > but we're trying to de-couple our relationships with them... > > Does anyone know of such "managed BGP" services? not sure which direction your team is looking in taking this. i have experience working with CoreSite and their Any2 exchange. this is will provide you peering with pretty much everyone you'd want to, and they manage most of the paperwork: http://coresite.com/solutions/interconnection/Peering-Exchanges/ANY2 having said that, you still have to manage your AS as well as some networking infrastructure (for example i've dropped some gear at 1 Wilshire to participate a while back - couple RU nothing major). not sure if this is helpful though.... -pete -- Pete Wright pete at nomadlogic.org twitter => @nomadlogicLA From lists at eitanadler.com Tue Feb 4 20:18:05 2014 From: lists at eitanadler.com (Eitan Adler) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 20:18:05 -0500 Subject: A place to stay Friday night Message-ID: Hi all, I'd like to make it to NYCBSDCon but need a place to stay the night before. Does anyone have an extra couch / bed? -- Eitan Adler From dan at langille.org Thu Feb 6 21:26:09 2014 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 21:26:09 -0500 Subject: invoicing software Message-ID: <232FD8D3-602D-4D60-B710-125B5C6CBD42@langille.org> Can you recommend an invoicing system? It'd be great if you alreay were using it (preferably at a service provider), and it's open source. Our thinking: a service isn?t suited to our needs. We have our in-house systems and we want them to drive the invoicing. I?ll be at NYCBSDCon on Saturday, if you want to talk more, but please, let us all know here too please. -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I mean, if you can reduce things to cat, mail and cron, that's the way to go IMHO. Maybe give a bit more details in what you need.. year end balance sheet? integration with a bank account? g From dan at langille.org Fri Feb 7 18:13:18 2014 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:13:18 -0500 Subject: invoicing software In-Reply-To: <52F4455C.8000805@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <232FD8D3-602D-4D60-B710-125B5C6CBD42@langille.org> <52F4455C.8000805@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <438d13ede36b2777bad8ffcb54bb186d@mailjail.langille.org> On 2014-02-06 09:30 PM, George Rosamond wrote: > Dan Langille: >> Can you recommend an invoicing system? It'd be great if you alreay >> were using it (preferably at a service provider), and it's open >> source. >> >> Our thinking: a service isn?t suited to our needs. We have our >> in-house systems and we want them to drive the invoicing. >> >> I?ll be at NYCBSDCon on Saturday, if you want to talk more, but >> please, let us all know here too please. > > I think it really depends on what kind of invoicing you're doing. > > I mean, if you can reduce things to cat, mail and cron, that's the way > to go IMHO. > > Maybe give a bit more details in what you need.. year end balance > sheet? integration with a bank account? How's this? A few of our goals. Not all of this is expected to be in the invoicing system, but it is some of what we want to achieve. - periodically email invoices to customers - integrate with various credit card processors for charging - retry those charges which failed - remind customers about upcoming expiration of credit cards - some kind of front end to allow customers to update their contact details, payment methods, etc (sure, we might have to write that) - easily identify customers behind on payments (so our systems can suspend the services we provide) Granted, some of this is more capability derived from being able to query the invoicing database. Triggers and hooks so our sign up system can add new customer to that system. Accounting would be external; so we just need to know revenue (say for this month). -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org/ From mike at myownsoho.net Fri Feb 7 18:21:31 2014 From: mike at myownsoho.net (Mike N.) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:21:31 -0500 Subject: invoicing software In-Reply-To: <438d13ede36b2777bad8ffcb54bb186d@mailjail.langille.org> References: <232FD8D3-602D-4D60-B710-125B5C6CBD42@langille.org> <52F4455C.8000805@ceetonetechnology.com> <438d13ede36b2777bad8ffcb54bb186d@mailjail.langille.org> Message-ID: <0986b49fdf8b723ec4008470a07f1833@myownsoho.net> On 2014-02-07 18:13, Dan Langille wrote: > On 2014-02-06 09:30 PM, George Rosamond wrote: > Dan Langille: Can you recommend an invoicing system? It'd be great if you alreay were using it (preferably at a service provider), and it's open source. Our thinking: a service isn't suited to our needs. We have our in-house systems and we want them to drive the invoicing. I'll be at NYCBSDCon on Saturday, if you want to talk more, but please, let us all know here too please. I think it really depends on what kind of invoicing you're doing. I mean, if you can reduce things to cat, mail and cron, that's the way to go IMHO. Maybe give a bit more details in what you need.. year end balance sheet? integration with a bank account? How's this? A few of our goals. Not all of this is expected to be in the invoicing system, but it is some of what we want to achieve. - periodically email invoices to customers - integrate with various credit card processors for charging - retry those charges which failed - remind customers about upcoming expiration of credit cards - some kind of front end to allow customers to update their contact details, payment methods, etc (sure, we might have to write that) - easily identify customers behind on payments (so our systems can suspend the services we provide) Granted, some of this is more capability derived from being able to query the invoicing database. Triggers and hooks so our sign up system can add new customer to that system. Accounting would be external; so we just need to know revenue (say for this month). -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org/ [1] _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk at lists.nycbug.org http://www.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk [2] I use this, to some extent. http://jeroenvheel.github.io/MyClientBase/ I've made a few changes of my own, it does not integrate with CC processors, since the Internet should not save CC numbers. It _does_ send invoices to people -- it's more of a manual invoicing system, than recurring billing. It does keep very good track of everything and good enough reporting. Dan, find me at the soundbooth tomorrow, I can show you a little of how it works IYW mike-- Links: ------ [1] http://langille.org/ [2] http://www.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwlucas at blackhelicopters.org Wed Feb 12 13:13:08 2014 From: mwlucas at blackhelicopters.org (Michael W. Lucas) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:13:08 -0500 Subject: Next NYCBSDCon Message-ID: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> So, NYCBSDCon 2/14 was successful. More or less. I mean, the food was great. Most of the presenters did really well. A good vibe in the crowd. Yes, you guys completely forgot the importance of an afternoon snack. And no Coke Zero? Sheesh. The con list had a short discussion about a theme for the next con. Then George came and yelled at us to put the discussion on talk at . So... fine. Here's an idea for a next theme: deploying BSD. Talks could include: FreeBSD/PCBSD scripted install Raspberry pi install ansible/puppet/etc served from & targeting BSD ... There's my spaghetti. Let's see if it sticks to the wall. ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlucas at michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ Absolute OpenBSD 2/e - http://www.nostarch.com/openbsd2e coupon code "ILUVMICHAEL" gets you 30% off & helps me. From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed Feb 12 13:44:44 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:44:44 -0500 Subject: Next NYCBSDCon In-Reply-To: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: <52FBC11C.8020903@ceetonetechnology.com> Michael W. Lucas: > So, NYCBSDCon 2/14 was successful. More or less. I mean, the food was > great. Most of the presenters did really well. A good vibe in the > crowd. Yes, you guys completely forgot the importance of an afternoon > snack. And no Coke Zero? Sheesh. So drink water! The cookies, unquestionably, are a horrible oversight. > > The con list had a short discussion about a theme for the next > con. Then George came and yelled at us to put the discussion on > talk at . So... fine. > > Here's an idea for a next theme: deploying BSD. > > Talks could include: > > FreeBSD/PCBSD scripted install > Raspberry pi install > ansible/puppet/etc served from & targeting BSD > ... > > There's my spaghetti. Let's see if it sticks to the wall. There is a strong possibility that we will do another similar daycon. There are some things to rework, but I think overall we got it right, especially considering we went a whole new route in terms of getting people outside the community, etc. A few ideas have been floating around, and we encourage others to join in this brain dump exercise. Our criteria is this: We are trying to do something completely different here. While the other (and larger) cons are great and are essential for the community, we want to localize our events to the technology scene at-large in NYC. We managed to pull a lot of local people who don't usually come to BSD events, and it opened up the discussions substantially. Yes, of course, far-off visitors are always welcome, but we want to keep things shifted to the local scene. Now, onto my idea. The resounding one, that I surveyed others at the con about, is: "Beyond x86: the BSDs on ARM and MIPS." The approach is this. Focus on Raspberry Pi, BeagleBone and this huge proliferation of cheap boards and boxes that have come out. Lots of people are hacking on them, and I notice on the projects' relevant arch/platform lists, there is a layer of people without BSD backgrounds jumping in. Now I don't envision a "This is how you install xBSD to an SD card" type day, although no reason why that couldn't be an expose-type display. Rather, there are more general issues to hit... and here's some relevant ones. FreeBSD's crochet build script. It's beyond just supported arm boards, and it manages to keep modularity for a lot of boards and different kernels while remaining a unified system. There are two angles in BSD land about cross versus native-compiling. It would be a great topic to cover from both ends, while keeping it friendly. That also raises the role of maintaining lots of archs/platforms. Is it a waste of power? Or useful for other reasons, like finding bugs in code since you're testing on a wider array of archs? There is an interesting (but pretty tangental) project called RetroBSD (.org) for small MIPS boards. It's derived from BSD 2.11 (yes, as written). The guy behind it works for MIPS, and Brian C has contributed a bit to the scene. Then we have one of the obvious local candidates to speak: Brian C, who works on the Octeon platform for OpenBSD. In general, there is a wide audience of people playing with these little SoC boards today, including students, hobbyists, etc. A big layer of them could be pulled for this, and I think we could do a kick-ass con on the topic. Open up the floor! g From dan at langille.org Wed Feb 12 13:55:53 2014 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:55:53 -0500 Subject: invoicing software In-Reply-To: <232FD8D3-602D-4D60-B710-125B5C6CBD42@langille.org> References: <232FD8D3-602D-4D60-B710-125B5C6CBD42@langille.org> Message-ID: <30bdecbbb08b264eea1d09110ac4a56c@mailjail.langille.org> On 2014-02-06 09:26 PM, Dan Langille wrote: > Can you recommend an invoicing system? It'd be great if you alreay > were using it (preferably at a service provider), and it's open > source. I'd like to open this up a bit. What invoicing or billing software are you using and why do you like it? We are looking for an open source solution. -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org/ From jun at soum.co.jp Wed Feb 12 19:23:27 2014 From: jun at soum.co.jp (Jun Ebihara) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:23:27 +0900 (JST) Subject: Next NYCBSDCon In-Reply-To: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: <20140213.092327.103000066.jun@soum.co.jp> From: "Michael W. Lucas" Subject: Next NYCBSDCon Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:13:08 -0500 > Talks could include: > Raspberry pi install NetBSD RPI image for demonstration use. Next release will come Feb 28. ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/jun/raspberry-pi/README Sample Setup: https://github.com/ebijun/NetBSD/blob/master/RPI/RPIimage/Image/Makefile and packages. ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/jun/raspberry-pi/earmhf/2014-02-11/ Please notify me your favorite application for support pre-compliled image. -- Jun Ebihara From justin at shiningsilence.com Sat Feb 15 00:18:09 2014 From: justin at shiningsilence.com (Justin Sherrill) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 00:18:09 -0500 Subject: Next NYCBSDCon In-Reply-To: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> References: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: One more 'future con' theme idea: this just-past con had Andrew Wong presenting from a developer's point of view - that would make a good theme. "BSD and development" - have people talk about building working environments, or how they get set up for using a particular language. Development of a hardware item would apply too, and probably interest some sponsors who would want to talk about what they are building. People could submit pictures of their work environments, for contrast. It would be sorta like usesthis.com. From bcallah at devio.us Sat Feb 15 01:44:31 2014 From: bcallah at devio.us (Brian Callahan) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:44:31 -0500 Subject: Next NYCBSDCon In-Reply-To: References: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: <52FF0CCF.7020703@devio.us> I simultaneously love and hate this idea. On 2/15/2014 12:18 AM, Justin Sherrill wrote: > One more 'future con' theme idea: this just-past con had Andrew Wong > presenting from a developer's point of view - that would make a good > theme. "BSD and development" - have people talk about building > working environments, or how they get set up for using a particular > language. This is great. There's always something to learn seeing how other people tackle a development problem. I think we could find enough variety, and make it *BSD-specific enough, to make this work. Or perhaps fit it into a larger "developer day," whatever that means for us. > Development of a hardware item would apply too, and probably interest > some sponsors who would want to talk about what they are building. > People could submit pictures of their work environments, for contrast. > It would be sorta like usesthis.com. I hate this idea. This is tantamount to auctioning off our speaker slots to the highest bidders and subjecting our attendees to a day of sales pitches. I have no problem with someone wanting to give a talk about some hardware their company produces, but such a talk really has to be focused on why *BSD is the right fit for them. It's really easy to devolve into a sales pitch. So you really have to trust the person giving the talk. And I would be very uncomfortable allowing that person's company to be a sponsor, especially a higher-level sponsor. Other cons, sure, but not that one. The stakes are higher with this than other talks/themes. Not every talk is going to be a home run, but people generally understand they may not love every talk on a particular day. Sometimes you even get credit for that: "Hey, I didn't love Person A's talk, but it's really cool that NYCBSDCon gave him/her a shot." Sales talks will annoy people and damage their perceptions on the day as a whole, not to mention the organizers will be to blame. Do that more than once and we'll be packing it up for good--no one will be coming back. Sorry Justin, didn't mean jump down your throat like that. You were just the first one to bring up something relevant and I want to have something public (even if it's just an "I told you so" years from now after we've screwed everything up :) ) ~Brian From justin at shiningsilence.com Sat Feb 15 13:49:59 2014 From: justin at shiningsilence.com (Justin Sherrill) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:49:59 -0500 Subject: Next NYCBSDCon In-Reply-To: <52FF0CCF.7020703@devio.us> References: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <52FF0CCF.7020703@devio.us> Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Brian Callahan wrote: > I hate this idea. This is tantamount to auctioning off our speaker slots to > the highest bidders and subjecting our attendees to a day of sales pitches. > I have no problem with someone wanting to give a talk about some hardware > their company produces, but such a talk really has to be focused on why *BSD > is the right fit for them. It's really easy to devolve into a sales pitch. Yeah, I see your point - I didn't even think of that, but it could get pretty painful to watch. Doing it like the past convention, where there were various tables for people to visit, would work. Maybe a hardware focus could work better as the topic of a whole separate meeting/event. I can see value in (for example) hearing about someone setting up (on their own, not as a vendor) on ARM-platform-du-jour, and then turning around and being able to pick it up for yourself. A hardware hackathon/makerspace sort of event? I only have a half-formed idea. > Sorry Justin, didn't mean jump down your throat like that. This is a BSD list; you need to work harder. You're pointing out problems with the idea, and stopping. You should then question the reason for me to bring it up, the value of all prior suggestions I've made, and casually either hint that this isn't the place for me or just engage in some sort of ad hominem attack. :) From mike at myownsoho.net Sun Feb 16 13:56:23 2014 From: mike at myownsoho.net (MIke) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:51:23 -0005 Subject: n00b install of unbound Message-ID: <1392576983.26328.0@mail.myownsoho.net> tried installing unbound, got error while installing ldns-1.6.16_4.txz had to `pkg add http://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/quarterly/All/ldns-1.6.16_4.txz` then `pkg install unbound` `pkg update` ; `pkg upgrade` had nothing to do and no effect will this affect future upgrades of unbound? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at langille.org Mon Feb 17 08:33:04 2014 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:33:04 -0500 Subject: Next NYCBSDCon In-Reply-To: References: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <52FF0CCF.7020703@devio.us> Message-ID: On 2014-02-15 01:49 PM, Justin Sherrill wrote: > This is a BSD list; you need to work harder. You're pointing out > problems with the idea, and stopping. You should then question the > reason for me to bring it up, the value of all prior suggestions I've > made, and casually either hint that this isn't the place for me or > just engage in some sort of ad hominem attack. :) You spelled Linux wrong. -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org/ From ericshane at eradman.com Tue Feb 18 13:16:04 2014 From: ericshane at eradman.com (Eric Radman) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:16:04 -0500 Subject: Next NYCBSDCon In-Reply-To: <52FBC11C.8020903@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <20140212181308.GA19490@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <52FBC11C.8020903@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <20140218181604.GA27990@vm.eradman.com> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:44:44PM -0500, George Rosamond wrote: > > The resounding one, that I surveyed others at the con about, is: "Beyond > x86: the BSDs on ARM and MIPS." Very memorable title! > The approach is this. Focus on Raspberry Pi, BeagleBone and this huge > proliferation of cheap boards and boxes that have come out. Lots of > people are hacking on them, Even from the perspective of hallway conversations this seems to be true. I know a number of people who use Linux on the Pi. > FreeBSD's crochet build script. It's beyond just supported arm boards, > and it manages to keep modularity for a lot of boards and different > kernels while remaining a unified system. Smooth deployment is a big deal, and the BSDs have a very story to tell. I'd love to hear an updated talk on flashrd (http://www.nmedia.net/flashrd/) for OpenBSD. Has anyone used it on non-x86 systems? Eric From dan at langille.org Tue Feb 18 16:17:06 2014 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:17:06 -0500 Subject: invoicing software In-Reply-To: <30bdecbbb08b264eea1d09110ac4a56c@mailjail.langille.org> References: <232FD8D3-602D-4D60-B710-125B5C6CBD42@langille.org> <30bdecbbb08b264eea1d09110ac4a56c@mailjail.langille.org> Message-ID: On 2014-02-12 01:55 PM, Dan Langille wrote: > On 2014-02-06 09:26 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >> Can you recommend an invoicing system? It'd be great if you alreay >> were using it (preferably at a service provider), and it's open >> source. > > I'd like to open this up a bit. What invoicing or billing software > are you using and why do you like it? We are looking for an open > source solution. After looking at dozens of solutions, we're going to look closely at http://kill-bill.org/ mostly because it has a REST API. -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org/ From ike at blackskyresearch.net Wed Feb 19 10:10:27 2014 From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 00:10:27 +0900 Subject: NYC-Tokyo Connection In-Reply-To: <74627-3010688.64273176@save-sent-mail.com> References: <74627-3010688.64273176@save-sent-mail.com> Message-ID: <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> A followup, On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote: > > Hi All, > > For the new year, I started working on a pfSense Japanese translation, and one thing led to another here... > > Just a quick heads up, for anyone who *might* be in Tokyo earlier than AsiaBSDCon, > > Tokyo FreeBSD Benkyokai Group, Feb. 17, 2014 > "?26? FreeBSD???" > "pfSense Practical Experiences: from home routers, to High-Availability Datacenter Deployments" > > > Daichi Goto, a long time committer, organizes this meeting on a regular basis. While the talk will be about pfSense in various contexts, I've also been asked to speak about NYC*BUG- and hope to build some bridges between Tokyo and NYC! > > I'm REALLY looking foreword to learning more about what *BSD things are happening in Tokyo, I'll be sure to report back to list... > > Best, > .ike Folks, Monday night in Tokyo was pretty amazing, I found a ton of parity between NYC*BUG and the FreeBSD Benkyokai Group. Amazing hospitality, everyone was extremely warm and engaging. Some FreeBSD and NetBSD committers were in attendance, and when I asked for a show of hands, about half the room used OpenBSD too. I presented an updated version of my last pfSense talk (NYC*BUG 2010), and gave update status on the Japanese UI translation project, (which is 80% complete, thanks to one serious volunteer...) Then, I *totally butchered* George's 10 years of NYC*BUG talk, cramming it into 10 minutes. Also brought in some ALIX boards loaded for live demos, and for people to mess around with- the boards were extremely popular... I posted my slides and notes online here: http://blackskyresearch.net/26-FreeBSD-Benkyokai/ 90 minutes later, nobody was asleep :) It was an excellent crowd, and a really good time. Drinks and yakitori followed. There are small *BSD groups meeting like this ALL OVER JAPAN! Seriously. It's intense. See y'all stateside soon! Rocket- .ike From mikel.king at gmail.com Wed Feb 19 10:22:38 2014 From: mikel.king at gmail.com (Mikel King) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:22:38 -0500 Subject: NYC-Tokyo Connection In-Reply-To: <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> References: <74627-3010688.64273176@save-sent-mail.com> <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> Message-ID: <871B52F5-1B35-409F-8DD3-BF18B9FD53B5@gmail.com> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:10 AM, "Isaac (.ike) Levy" wrote: > A followup, > > On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote: > > Folks, Monday night in Tokyo was pretty amazing, I found a ton of parity between NYC*BUG and the FreeBSD Benkyokai Group. Amazing hospitality, everyone was extremely warm and engaging. Some FreeBSD and NetBSD committers were in attendance, and when I asked for a show of hands, about half the room used OpenBSD too. > > I presented an updated version of my last pfSense talk (NYC*BUG 2010), and gave update status on the Japanese UI translation project, (which is 80% complete, thanks to one serious volunteer...) Then, I *totally butchered* George's 10 years of NYC*BUG talk, cramming it into 10 minutes. Also brought in some ALIX boards loaded for live demos, and for people to mess around with- the boards were extremely popular... > > I posted my slides and notes online here: > http://blackskyresearch.net/26-FreeBSD-Benkyokai/ > > 90 minutes later, nobody was asleep :) It was an excellent crowd, and a really good time. Drinks and yakitori followed. > > There are small *BSD groups meeting like this ALL OVER JAPAN! Seriously. It's intense. See y'all stateside soon! > > Rocket- > .ike > That's Awesome Ike. Safe journey! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed Feb 19 10:45:20 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:45:20 -0500 Subject: NYC-Tokyo Connection In-Reply-To: <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> References: <74627-3010688.64273176@save-sent-mail.com> <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> Message-ID: <5304D190.9020208@ceetonetechnology.com> Isaac (.ike) Levy: > A followup, > > On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Isaac (.ike) Levy > wrote: > droped MK's rely... since he did some heavy ... >> >> Hi All, >> >> For the new year, I started working on a pfSense Japanese >> translation, and one thing led to another here... >> Maybe you tell us more about that... separate thread. There's more bi/multilingual people on this list than most others.. .my guess. Technical translations are a heavy project, and not just translation, but I think Ike has some insight for others on this. >> Just a quick heads up, for anyone who *might* be in Tokyo earlier >> than AsiaBSDCon, >> >> Tokyo FreeBSD Benkyokai Group, Feb. 17, 2014 "?26? FreeBSD???" >> "pfSense Practical Experiences: from home routers, to >> High-Availability Datacenter Deployments" >> >> >> Daichi Goto, a long time committer, organizes this meeting on a >> regular basis. While the talk will be about pfSense in various >> contexts, I've also been asked to speak about NYC*BUG- and hope to >> build some bridges between Tokyo and NYC! >> That's great. Japan has more BSD groups than anyone can imagine. If you transplanted them to NYC, there would be probably five or six in a city like this. Tokyo *is* a BSD city. >> I'm REALLY looking foreword to learning more about what *BSD things >> are happening in Tokyo, I'll be sure to report back to list... >> >> Best, .ike > > Folks, Monday night in Tokyo was pretty amazing, I found a ton of > parity between NYC*BUG and the FreeBSD Benkyokai Group. Amazing > hospitality, everyone was extremely warm and engaging. Some FreeBSD > and NetBSD committers were in attendance, and when I asked for a show > of hands, about half the room used OpenBSD too. > Nice. > I presented an updated version of my last pfSense talk (NYC*BUG > 2010), and gave update status on the Japanese UI translation project, > (which is 80% complete, thanks to one serious volunteer...) Then, I > *totally butchered* George's 10 years of NYC*BUG talk, cramming it So you took stew meat and turned it into mine meat... impressive! > into 10 minutes. Also brought in some ALIX boards loaded for live > demos, and for people to mess around with- the boards were extremely > popular... > You mentioned small embedded boards like Soekris aren't popular. But .jp is the land of serious gadgetry. Are there other things people are using? What about RPi and similar boards? > I posted my slides and notes online here: > http://blackskyresearch.net/26-FreeBSD-Benkyokai/ > > 90 minutes later, nobody was asleep :) It was an excellent crowd, > and a really good time. Drinks and yakitori followed. > > There are small *BSD groups meeting like this ALL OVER JAPAN! > Seriously. It's intense. See y'all stateside soon! > I used to maintain BSDUserGroups.org... before NYC*BUG started even. There were a few dozen groups in .jp, including exclusively women's groups, IIRC. Dan, do you remember? It was hosted by BCHosting who you also used, right? More details Ike would be great.. maybe more on attendee composition, gender, work type, etc. g From mspitzer at gmail.com Wed Feb 19 15:45:58 2014 From: mspitzer at gmail.com (Marc Spitzer) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:45:58 -0500 Subject: NYC-Tokyo Connection In-Reply-To: <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> References: <74627-3010688.64273176@save-sent-mail.com> <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> Message-ID: Ike, Glad to hear it went well. Marc On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Isaac (.ike) Levy < ike at blackskyresearch.net> wrote: > A followup, > > On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Isaac (.ike) Levy > wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > For the new year, I started working on a pfSense Japanese translation, > and one thing led to another here... > > > > Just a quick heads up, for anyone who *might* be in Tokyo earlier than > AsiaBSDCon, > > > > Tokyo FreeBSD Benkyokai Group, Feb. 17, 2014 > > "?26? FreeBSD???" > > "pfSense Practical Experiences: from home routers, to High-Availability > Datacenter Deployments" > > > > > > Daichi Goto, a long time committer, organizes this meeting on a regular > basis. While the talk will be about pfSense in various contexts, I've also > been asked to speak about NYC*BUG- and hope to build some bridges between > Tokyo and NYC! > > > > I'm REALLY looking foreword to learning more about what *BSD things are > happening in Tokyo, I'll be sure to report back to list... > > > > Best, > > .ike > > Folks, Monday night in Tokyo was pretty amazing, I found a ton of parity > between NYC*BUG and the FreeBSD Benkyokai Group. Amazing hospitality, > everyone was extremely warm and engaging. Some FreeBSD and NetBSD > committers were in attendance, and when I asked for a show of hands, about > half the room used OpenBSD too. > > I presented an updated version of my last pfSense talk (NYC*BUG 2010), and > gave update status on the Japanese UI translation project, (which is 80% > complete, thanks to one serious volunteer...) Then, I *totally butchered* > George's 10 years of NYC*BUG talk, cramming it into 10 minutes. Also > brought in some ALIX boards loaded for live demos, and for people to mess > around with- the boards were extremely popular... > > I posted my slides and notes online here: > http://blackskyresearch.net/26-FreeBSD-Benkyokai/ > > 90 minutes later, nobody was asleep :) It was an excellent crowd, and a > really good time. Drinks and yakitori followed. > > There are small *BSD groups meeting like this ALL OVER JAPAN! Seriously. > It's intense. 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URL: From ike at blackskyresearch.net Wed Feb 19 18:32:39 2014 From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:32:39 +0900 Subject: NYC-Tokyo Connection In-Reply-To: <5304D190.9020208@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <74627-3010688.64273176@save-sent-mail.com> <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> <5304D190.9020208@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <1392852783-7492927.54001842.fs1JNWgKJ018505@rs149.luxsci.com> Word, On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:45 AM, George Rosamond wrote: > Isaac (.ike) Levy: >> A followup, >> >> On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Isaac (.ike) Levy >> wrote: >> > > droped MK's rely... since he did some heavy ... > >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> For the new year, I started working on a pfSense Japanese >>> translation, and one thing led to another here... >>> > > Maybe you tell us more about that... separate thread. There's more > bi/multilingual people on this list than most others.. .my guess. > > Technical translations are a heavy project, and not just translation, > but I think Ike has some insight for others on this. Sure- I just queued up a draft to finish on the plane home... > >>> Just a quick heads up, for anyone who *might* be in Tokyo earlier >>> than AsiaBSDCon, >>> >>> Tokyo FreeBSD Benkyokai Group, Feb. 17, 2014 "?26? FreeBSD???" >>> "pfSense Practical Experiences: from home routers, to >>> High-Availability Datacenter Deployments" >>> >>> >>> Daichi Goto, a long time committer, organizes this meeting on a >>> regular basis. While the talk will be about pfSense in various >>> contexts, I've also been asked to speak about NYC*BUG- and hope to >>> build some bridges between Tokyo and NYC! >>> > > That's great. Japan has more BSD groups than anyone can imagine. If > you transplanted them to NYC, there would be probably five or six in a > city like this. > > Tokyo *is* a BSD city. > >>> I'm REALLY looking foreword to learning more about what *BSD things >>> are happening in Tokyo, I'll be sure to report back to list... >>> >>> Best, .ike >> >> Folks, Monday night in Tokyo was pretty amazing, I found a ton of >> parity between NYC*BUG and the FreeBSD Benkyokai Group. Amazing >> hospitality, everyone was extremely warm and engaging. Some FreeBSD >> and NetBSD committers were in attendance, and when I asked for a show >> of hands, about half the room used OpenBSD too. >> > > Nice. Noteworthy: my polling was informal... > >> I presented an updated version of my last pfSense talk (NYC*BUG >> 2010), and gave update status on the Japanese UI translation project, >> (which is 80% complete, thanks to one serious volunteer...) Then, I >> *totally butchered* George's 10 years of NYC*BUG talk, cramming it > > So you took stew meat and turned it into mine meat... impressive! I believe you meant mince meat? :) The 10 years talk was actually very well received. Tokyo has some very similar issues to NY, for example: space space space. No space. The FreeBSD Benkyokai charged people for attendance, primarily to cover the space used during the presentation. Goto-san and I briefly discussed the difficulties of finding space, and I told stories about NYC*BUG's approaches to finding space. > >> into 10 minutes. Also brought in some ALIX boards loaded for live >> demos, and for people to mess around with- the boards were extremely >> popular... >> > > You mentioned small embedded boards like Soekris aren't popular. Ah- x86 boards (soekris/alix/lanner) do not seem at all popular. > But > .jp is the land of serious gadgetry. Embedded systems everywhere, way ahead of us, (and way ahead of x86). pc98 embedded systems I'm told are everywhere, (the *BSD's shine here- FreeBSD particularly- with a long history, I'm told). Also, ppc and mips all over the place too, (NetBSD). (For Bcallah, I met one NetBSD committer here who's worked on octeon...) Our new ARM and tiny x86/SOC "revolution" basically looks like it's a full decade behind Japan. Also: I'm told the GPL is not liked in Japan, but I'm not certain why- I wish I had more time speaking to folks about that... NOW: a looming threat, influence of the US markets :) I was told that many engineers, all the way up into technical management, simply love the *BSD's. However, from the top down, the CEO's are starting to clamor "we want it to be redhat". Sound like a familiar problem? It will be interesting to see if the highly organized and disciplined IT/Tech establishment is able to maintain rational control of their environments, (in ways we have not succeeded in the US). > Are there other things people are > using? What about RPi and similar boards? I didn't get time to ask- but in Akihabara Monday, I saw *one* poster with Raspberry Pi something on it- and when walking into the shop, did not find the boards. I did however see the usual myriad of "Arduinio-esque" boards in all shapes and sizes. > >> I posted my slides and notes online here: >> http://blackskyresearch.net/26-FreeBSD-Benkyokai/ >> >> 90 minutes later, nobody was asleep :) It was an excellent crowd, >> and a really good time. Drinks and yakitori followed. >> >> There are small *BSD groups meeting like this ALL OVER JAPAN! >> Seriously. It's intense. See y'all stateside soon! >> > > I used to maintain BSDUserGroups.org... before NYC*BUG started even. > There were a few dozen groups in .jp, including exclusively women's > groups, IIRC. Dan, do you remember? It was hosted by BCHosting who you > also used, right? Holy moses I barely remember that... > > More details Ike would be great.. maybe more on attendee composition, > gender, work type, etc. OK, hrm. Roughly 25 people in attendance, 1 in 10 were women. (I have no idea if that sample set is representative of the bigger picture, but it was that meeting). Possibly 1 in 4 were committers/contributors to the *BSD projects. The FreeBSD Benkyokai scene was also mostly composed of working professionals, and I'm told that most of the *BSD groups in Japan are simply more formal than the "meetup" kind of scene in the US. >From what I was told, and who I met, the computing business landscape looks like NYC 15 years ago: business/it/developement is composed of LOTS of small, independent companies- who service everyone from large mega-corporations, to small mom-n-pop businesses. Perhaps this is Japan's way of culturally adapting to the changing face of technology? (e.g. people here generally do not change jobs often in their lifetime, yet tech companies and it initiatives come and go...) Hrm, what else... My english: everyone was extremely patient and forgiving, and in the end, I think it was difficult for people to understand me. 1-on-1 conversations were *much* clearer, because the speed and word choice could be negotiated live- (instead of the big broadcast of a presentation). My midwestern/brooklyn accent probably didn't help :) What else? Other questions? Rocket- .ike > > g > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://www.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > From jun at soum.co.jp Wed Feb 19 21:53:14 2014 From: jun at soum.co.jp (Jun Ebihara) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:53:14 +0900 (JST) Subject: NYC-Tokyo Connection In-Reply-To: <5304D190.9020208@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <74627-3010688.64273176@save-sent-mail.com> <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> <5304D190.9020208@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <20140220.115314.181996213.jun@soum.co.jp> From: George Rosamond Subject: Re: NYC-Tokyo Connection Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:45:20 -0500 > That's great. Japan has more BSD groups than anyone can imagine. If > you transplanted them to NYC, there would be probably five or six in a > city like this. OverView: http://www.soum.co.jp/~jun/asiabsdcon2013.pdf http://www.soum.co.jp/~jun/KOBO.PDF -- Jun Ebihara From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed Feb 19 22:59:56 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:59:56 -0500 Subject: NYC-Tokyo Connection In-Reply-To: <20140220.115314.181996213.jun@soum.co.jp> References: <74627-3010688.64273176@save-sent-mail.com> <1392822662-2987105.49865435.fs1JFAN04023010@rs149.luxsci.com> <5304D190.9020208@ceetonetechnology.com> <20140220.115314.181996213.jun@soum.co.jp> Message-ID: <53057DBC.7000609@ceetonetechnology.com> Jun Ebihara: > From: George Rosamond > Subject: Re: NYC-Tokyo Connection > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:45:20 -0500 > >> That's great. Japan has more BSD groups than anyone can imagine. If >> you transplanted them to NYC, there would be probably five or six in a >> city like this. > > OverView: > http://www.soum.co.jp/~jun/asiabsdcon2013.pdf > http://www.soum.co.jp/~jun/KOBO.PDF > Nice stuff. I honestly never imagined I'd see Marquee Moon quoted in a BSD talk. That's a first! g From matthewstory at gmail.com Wed Feb 19 23:27:28 2014 From: matthewstory at gmail.com (Matthew Story) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:27:28 -0500 Subject: 19,000,000,000 reasons to choose BSD Message-ID: Many of you have probably already seen this, but WhatsApp was acquired by Facebook for $16,000,000,000 + $3,000,000,000 more in RSUs for current employees. This past summer the WhatsApp CEO (former Yahoo!) gave a testimonial to the FreeBSD Foundation, with a link to a blog post boasting that with FreeBSD they are capable of handling 2 - 3 million concurrent requests on a single server. Links below: http://blog.whatsapp.com/index.php/2012/01/1-million-is-so-2011/ https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/2013Jul-newsletter#whatsapp http://sequoiacapital.tumblr.com/post/77211282835/four-numbers-that-explain-why-facebook-acquired -- regards, matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Remember the ancient discussions about wishing we had 48 network ports, on a piece of hardware running *BSD? Well, if anyone wants to join me, I'm dipping my toe in on list over at the OpenCompute networking project, I'd love to have more NYC*BUG folks over there who care about the networking (and switching hardware): http://lists.opencompute.org/pipermail/opencompute-networking/2014-February/000106.html (The list appears to be quite light traffic.) I think showing a strong and constructive *BSD presence there is both relevant, and useful. Best, .ike From ike at blackskyresearch.net Fri Feb 21 00:23:45 2014 From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:23:45 +0900 Subject: OpenCompute Switches, A Cross-Post In-Reply-To: <1392959342-8465251.9058639.fs1L58cdN004156@rs149.luxsci.com> References: <1392959342-8465251.9058639.fs1L58cdN004156@rs149.luxsci.com> Message-ID: <1392960242-6335027.4001741.fs1L5NlAZ013509@rs149.luxsci.com> On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:08 PM, "Isaac (.ike) Levy" wrote: > Hi All, > > Apologies in advance, this is certainly a sort of cross-post, as a sort of rallying cry. > > Remember the ancient discussions about wishing we had 48 network ports, on a piece of hardware running *BSD? Well, if anyone wants to join me, I'm dipping my toe in on list over at the OpenCompute networking project, I'd love to have more NYC*BUG folks over there who care about the networking (and switching hardware): > > http://lists.opencompute.org/pipermail/opencompute-networking/2014-February/000106.html > (The list appears to be quite light traffic.) > > I think showing a strong and constructive *BSD presence there is both relevant, and useful. > > Best, > .ike A URL dump followup, Just in case folks don't know much about the OpenCompute project: -- Here is that Intel "Wish-ware" spec, from the OpenCompute (facebook) project. http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/product-briefs/onp-switch-reference-design-product-brief.pdf What follows, is a URL dump of related press/pr articles, some fluffier than others, but all on the right track IMHO... http://www.opencompute.org/ http://www.opencompute.org/projects/networking/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/cisco-threatening-open-switch-coming-from-facebook-intel-and-broadcom/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/facebook-aims-to-knock-cisco-down-a-peg-with-open-network-hardware/ http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/111213-facebook-open-compute-project-picks-275862.html http://gigaom.com/2013/11/11/facebooks-hardware-vp-says-were-very-close-to-open-source-switches/ http://www.networkcomputing.com/next-generation-data-center/news/networking/open-compute-project-considers-switch-sp/240163982 -- And even broader, the new buzzword, "Software Defined Networking", (SDN): http://gigaom.com/2013/01/30/sdn-is-not-openflow-but-openflow-is-a-real-disruption/ Just sounds a lot like a UNIX box with lots of nics. 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URL: From pete at nomadlogic.org Fri Feb 21 12:54:51 2014 From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:54:51 -0800 Subject: OpenCompute Switches, A Cross-Post In-Reply-To: <1392959342-8465251.9058639.fs1L58cdN004156@rs149.luxsci.com> References: <1392959342-8465251.9058639.fs1L58cdN004156@rs149.luxsci.com> Message-ID: <530792EB.2070502@nomadlogic.org> On 02/20/14 21:08, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote: > Hi All, > > Apologies in advance, this is certainly a sort of cross-post, as a sort of rallying cry. > > Remember the ancient discussions about wishing we had 48 network ports, on a piece of hardware running *BSD? Well, if anyone wants to join me, I'm dipping my toe in on list over at the OpenCompute networking project, I'd love to have more NYC*BUG folks over there who care about the networking (and switching hardware): > > http://lists.opencompute.org/pipermail/opencompute-networking/2014-February/000106.html > (The list appears to be quite light traffic.) > > I think showing a strong and constructive *BSD presence there is both relevant, and useful. > Thanks .ike - this is of particular interest to me since i am currently working in both the openstack and opencompute world right now. although i believe opencompute is (or should be) OS agnostic since its primary focus is on hardware design at the rack/dc level. perhaps i'm missing something? having said that - there is support in openstack/neutron for opencontrail(1). they are working on a freebsd port which i'm pretty excited about. cheers, -pete (1)http://opencontrail.org/opencontrail-weekly-meeting/ -- Pete Wright pete at nomadlogic.org twitter => @nomadlogicLA From mark.saad at ymail.com Tue Feb 25 11:38:50 2014 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:38:50 -0500 Subject: NYCBSDCon 2014 Recap Message-ID: <530CC71A.7050704@ymail.com> All The people over at iXsystem have a fairly long recap of NYCBSDCon 2014. Dig it. http://web.ixsystems.com/whats-new/nycbsdcon-2014-recap/ -- Mark From pete at nomadlogic.org Thu Feb 27 15:56:31 2014 From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:56:31 -0800 Subject: utilite ARM9 system review Message-ID: <530FA67F.5080600@nomadlogic.org> hey guys - this is a followup to my previous post regarding purchasing one of these Utilite ARM9 box: http://utilite-computer.com/web/utilite-models so i got one of these bad boys around the new years and have had a little bit of time to hack on it. the tl;dr synopsis: don't get one. i was hopeful that this was going to be a good platform to hack on since they seemed pretty open on their website and boast support for both android and ubuntu linux systems. unfortunately the hardware is pretty suspect and i have been unable to even flash the system with a microSD card. the box seems to run linux pretty good, although since the entire thing locks up when you attempt to boot with a microSD card(1) it makes things pretty difficult to hack on. oh yea..they also don't support booting from USB view their u-boot environment...and the network implementation is pretty crappy in the uboot environment as well. i'm going to keep hacking on this guy, and am hoping that there is a magical microSD card that will work on this box (other have reported this issue as well). but a word of caution - if you are looking to purchase a ARM platform to hack on i'd suggest looking elsewhere. -pete (1) oddly enough i can boot, enter the u-boot prompt, insert a microSD and read from it. but if i power on the system with a microSD installed it becomes totally unresponsive. still waiting on feedback from support on that. -- Pete Wright pete at nomadlogic.org twitter => @nomadlogicLA