From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Tue Jul  1 09:57:37 2014
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:57:37 -0400
Subject: [talk] Time Warner or my router? [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <CA+YR8=2gGsyJvZK2oq7PJS09FiDPDfLKC+5zmiAXgMsZYQbxzw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140630203714.GA30410@scott1.scottro.net>
 <20140630211702.GA31088@scott1.scottro.net>
 <20140630221948.GA414@scott1.scottro.net>
 <7D41D8C0-A29B-4CC2-8B23-97F1DC70A8BA@bway.net>
 <CA+YR8=2gGsyJvZK2oq7PJS09FiDPDfLKC+5zmiAXgMsZYQbxzw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20140701135737.GA9899@scott1.scottro.net>

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:52:50PM -0400, Justin Sherrill wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Charles Sprickman <spork at bway.net> wrote:
> > It probably varies wildly by what CPE you have and type of account,
> > but basically it sounds like they flipped you from the modem being a dumb
> > bridge, to being a router (and likely with the built-in wifi, if available, enabled),
> > to being a dumb bridge again.

Yup, that was it.  As I said in an  earlier email, when they changed the
cable TV service, somehow the bundle also affected the modem, flipping it
from bridge to router.  It's all fixed now.

-- 
Scott Robbins
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From mark.saad at ymail.com  Tue Jul  1 10:38:17 2014
From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:38:17 -0400
Subject: [talk] July 2 RSVP soon
In-Reply-To: <FA9DF5B5-3DE7-47C3-8CE4-B1542E196BDE@ymail.com>
References: <FA9DF5B5-3DE7-47C3-8CE4-B1542E196BDE@ymail.com>
Message-ID: <53B2C7D9.5000004@ymail.com>

All
   Just a reminder please RSVP for the July 2nd NYCBUG meeting soon . 
Please email rsvp at nycbug.org with you full name as it appears on your 
government issues photo id . You will need to present this I at the door 
to get into the building .   See you there .



  --- P L E A S E --- N O T E ---

If you RSVP'd and got a bounce back please email me directly and I will 
add you to the list.



-- 
Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com


From mark.saad at ymail.com  Tue Jul  1 16:16:06 2014
From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:16:06 -0400
Subject: [talk] Multicast nat or Wired to Wireless Bridge
Message-ID: <53B31706.9010308@ymail.com>

All
  I am running pfsense 2.1.x and I have a situation where I want to 
allow my wired clients access to devices on the wireless network that 
use apples multi-cast dns services and visa versa.

Two options I have heard of .  Setup a nat for multicast address from 
one network to the other. I am not entirely sure how to pull this off 
but it sounds possible.  Second option is to bridge the two networks. 
However I cant find a way to make the bridge in pfsense.

Does anyone have any ideas on this.



-- 
Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com


From nikolai at fetissov.org  Wed Jul  2 16:29:28 2014
From: nikolai at fetissov.org (Nikolai Fetissov)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:29:28 -0400
Subject: [talk] Can somebody please do the recording tonight
Message-ID: <D61640CC-4801-4BEF-A2AD-83DC1CA49E71@fetissov.org>

Folks,

Apologies, I RSVP-d for the meeting but can't make it tonight.
The talk looks very interesting and I would love to hear it.
Can someone please record the audio there?
Simple iPhone voice memo would do.
Would be greatly appreciated, not only by me.

Cheers,
--
 Nikolai


From mark.saad at ymail.com  Wed Jul  2 20:18:43 2014
From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:18:43 -0400
Subject: [talk] Ntp box I was talking about .
Message-ID: <686992EF-3AD1-40A6-A866-E6137CAAD526@ymail.com>

I was talking about this box anyone want to try this ?
http://www.febo.com/pages/soekris/
---
Mark saad | mark.saad at ymail.com 


From steve.b at osfda.org  Thu Jul  3 02:15:20 2014
From: steve.b at osfda.org (Steve)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 02:15:20 -0400
Subject: [talk] Open Source Events Calendar...
In-Reply-To: <53B4F002.9020004@osfda.org>
References: <53B4F002.9020004@osfda.org>
Message-ID: <53B4F4F8.10206@osfda.org>

Hey guys-

I was the new attendee to the BSD user group. So here's the calendar I 
was showing you guys:

    http://osfda.org/calendar

You hover over items to get their details (on touch devices and 
cellphones, click on them...) We cover user groups, meetups, 
conferences, trade shows, lectures, etc. The only events we might omit 
are beginner/learn-to-code groups (since as professionals, it's presumed 
you're past that stage...)

Shoot me an Email if you encounter any usability issues.

If you are in the finance space and are interested in finding out what 
the OSFDA is about, read our FAQ <http://osfda.org/faq>.and I can 
address their questions at another meetup (or maybe they would like to 
check out the cryptocurrencies meetup, "/*BitDevs*/ 
<http://www.meetup.com/BitDevsNYC>"; but while many BitDevers filled the 
ranks of the OSFDA, the OSFDA is not comprised solely of BitDevers...) 
As the main page says, it is in its formative stages; but it might be of 
interest for some of you to participate if you think it's a generally 
good idea and would like to have a hand in shaping its mission and 
methods (voting Board slots are still open to anyone passing a basic 
vetting; once the Board is filled at twenty four members, they would 
have to go on a standby list...) I am one of two people who founded it 
and came up with the idea for it, but as the FAQ says: after it is set 
in motion, a parliamentary majority will determine the organization's 
decisions and direction. We have been encouraging bright people to join, 
so we are hopeful that such a decision making body made up of 
intelligent people will fare well.

And for those of you who are not in finance, you can still benefit from 
the calendar since it's free as in beer. The OSFDA is not a money-making 
venture; it's mission is primarily to improve the career options of its 
members. Because of that, things like the calendar (and soon the forum, 
which will have some unique functionality...) has no ads, no 
registration, and no logins (the hosting is to be covered by annual dues 
of $25...)

See you next month (unless I'm dealing with an OSFDA formation issue, or 
on a deadline with my SourceForge project -it has to do with Bitcoins 
and security...)

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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Thu Jul  3 10:16:08 2014
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:16:08 -0400
Subject: [talk] timekeeping meeting
Message-ID: <53B565A8.9060403@ceetonetechnology.com>

Despite the heavy storm, we had a very interesting meeting from Steve K.

I know *someone* grabbed the audio.. that should go up soon, as should
the slides.

Steve mentioned that he would do a followup PTP meeting at some point in
the future.  Personally, I'd love to see this happen in the fall if
there's interest.

g


From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 10:25:45 2014
From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Patrick McEvoy)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:25:45 -0400
Subject: [talk] timekeeping meeting
In-Reply-To: <53B565A8.9060403@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <53B565A8.9060403@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <53B567E9.3070704@gmail.com>

George Rosamond wrote:
> Despite the heavy storm, we had a very interesting meeting from Steve K.
> 
> I know *someone* grabbed the audio.. that should go up soon, as should
> the slides.

I hope *someone* did, because, the streaming did not work. I did not
have time to test the connection as I arrived too late. If we have
slides and audio, it will go in the cue of talks that need to be
processed for BSDTV. Happy fourth everyone.
P


> 
> Steve mentioned that he would do a followup PTP meeting at some point in
> the future.  Personally, I'd love to see this happen in the fall if
> there's interest.
> 
> g
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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Thu Jul  3 10:27:55 2014
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:27:55 -0400
Subject: [talk] Ntp box I was talking about .
In-Reply-To: <686992EF-3AD1-40A6-A866-E6137CAAD526@ymail.com>
References: <686992EF-3AD1-40A6-A866-E6137CAAD526@ymail.com>
Message-ID: <53B5686B.7070501@ceetonetechnology.com>

Mark Saad:
> I was talking about this box anyone want to try this ?
> http://www.febo.com/pages/soekris/

I vaguely remember this now.

It would be a useful function for those old Soekris 4501's sitting around.

I don't know anyone around NYC*BUG who did anything beyond the basics
with Soekris, ie, this project, environmental monitoring, etc.  Back in
the early days of NYC*BUG we *all* hacked on Soekris boxes, but it was
mostly for building firewalls and light distros on CF cards.  Still
remarkable to think FreeBSD could run on a 128M cf card...

g



From rick at aliwalas.com  Thu Jul  3 10:42:01 2014
From: rick at aliwalas.com (Rick Aliwalas)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:42:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [talk] Ntp box I was talking about .
In-Reply-To: <53B5686B.7070501@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <686992EF-3AD1-40A6-A866-E6137CAAD526@ymail.com>
 <53B5686B.7070501@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSO.2.03.1407031036580.6781@aliwalas.com>

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, George Rosamond wrote:

> Mark Saad:
>> I was talking about this box anyone want to try this ?
>> http://www.febo.com/pages/soekris/
>
> I vaguely remember this now.
>
> It would be a useful function for those old Soekris 4501's sitting around.
>
> I don't know anyone around NYC*BUG who did anything beyond the basics
> with Soekris, ie, this project, environmental monitoring, etc.  Back in
> the early days of NYC*BUG we *all* hacked on Soekris boxes, but it was
> mostly for building firewalls and light distros on CF cards.  Still
> remarkable to think FreeBSD could run on a 128M cf card...

My 4501 OpenBSD firewall is still going strong. Gotta be 10 yrs now...

-rick

>
> g
>
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From gnn at neville-neil.com  Thu Jul  3 10:21:35 2014
From: gnn at neville-neil.com (George Neville-Neil)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:21:35 -0400
Subject: [talk] timekeeping meeting
In-Reply-To: <53B565A8.9060403@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <53B565A8.9060403@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <3BC4E688-632D-43BF-8217-1C27C21A0E04@neville-neil.com>

On 3 Jul 2014, at 10:16, George Rosamond wrote:

> Despite the heavy storm, we had a very interesting meeting from Steve K.
>
> I know *someone* grabbed the audio.. that should go up soon, as should
> the slides.
>
> Steve mentioned that he would do a followup PTP meeting at some point in
> the future.  Personally, I'd love to see this happen in the fall if
> there's interest.
>

And I'll even try to show up to heckle!

I'm sure Steve did a great job, and I look forward to the audio.

Best,
George


From bcallah at devio.us  Tue Jul  8 21:19:07 2014
From: bcallah at devio.us (Brian Callahan)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:19:07 -0400
Subject: [talk] August meeting: still open workshop slots
Message-ID: <53BC988B.90807@devio.us>

Hi everyone --

There are still open slots for the August talk for people who want the 
hands-on experience of making your first OpenBSD port. Email me or 
admin at lists.nycbug.org and let me know you want to take part.

This is a no-risk workshop. There will even be an OpenBSD virtualbox 
image available so you don't even have to install OpenBSD on your 
machine (though I certainly won't complain if you do!).

It'll be fun! Sign up today. :)

~Brian


From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 22:01:05 2014
From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Patrick McEvoy)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 22:01:05 -0400
Subject: [talk] August meeting: still open workshop slots
In-Reply-To: <53BC988B.90807@devio.us>
References: <53BC988B.90807@devio.us>
Message-ID: <53BCA261.6050504@gmail.com>



Brian Callahan wrote:
> Hi everyone --
> 
> There are still open slots for the August talk for people who want the
> hands-on experience of making your first OpenBSD port. Email me or
> admin at lists.nycbug.org and let me know you want to take part.
> 
> This is a no-risk workshop. There will even be an OpenBSD virtualbox
> image available so you don't even have to install OpenBSD on your
> machine (though I certainly won't complain if you do!).
> 
> It'll be fun! Sign up today. :)
> 
> ~Brian
> _______________________________________________
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> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk


Mind if we stream?
P



From bcallah at devio.us  Tue Jul  8 22:02:22 2014
From: bcallah at devio.us (Brian Callahan)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 22:02:22 -0400
Subject: [talk] August meeting: still open workshop slots
In-Reply-To: <53BCA261.6050504@gmail.com>
References: <53BC988B.90807@devio.us> <53BCA261.6050504@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53BCA2AE.8090409@devio.us>


On 07/08/14 22:01, Patrick McEvoy wrote:
>
> Brian Callahan wrote:
>> Hi everyone --
>>
>> There are still open slots for the August talk for people who want the
>> hands-on experience of making your first OpenBSD port. Email me or
>> admin at lists.nycbug.org and let me know you want to take part.
>>
>> This is a no-risk workshop. There will even be an OpenBSD virtualbox
>> image available so you don't even have to install OpenBSD on your
>> machine (though I certainly won't complain if you do!).
>>
>> It'll be fun! Sign up today. :)
>>
>> ~Brian
>> _______________________________________________
>> talk mailing list
>> talk at lists.nycbug.org
>> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> Mind if we stream?
> P
>

I'd be upset if you didn't ;-)


From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Fri Jul 11 11:24:54 2014
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:24:54 -0400
Subject: [talk] HOPE
Message-ID: <53C001C6.80109@ceetonetechnology.com>

For those going to HOPE next week, we should have a flier for Brian's
August 6 meeting.

There are a layer of people there who *are* our audience... and would be
interested.

And I think the OpenBSD porting meeting is particularly relevant.

Thoughts?

g


From steve.b at osfda.org  Fri Jul 11 13:00:53 2014
From: steve.b at osfda.org (Steve)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:00:53 -0400
Subject: [talk] HOPE...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2.1405094402.22858.talk@lists.nycbug.org>
References: <mailman.2.1405094402.22858.talk@lists.nycbug.org>
Message-ID: <53C01845.7070709@osfda.org>

Suggestion: I imagine whoever is going should contact the speakers at 
a/the non-script-kiddie event(s) and ask for permission to stand up and 
announce that the group exists (like a one minute shout-out about the 
group and the upcoming ports talk...)

The events that stand out as being /somewhat/ non-script-kiddie are 
(<shameless-plug>now let's check the conference schedule on  the open 
source events calendar at osfda.org...</shameless-plug>):

Friday:
     Are You Ready to SIP the Kool-Aid?
     Crypto for Makers
     How to Prevent Security Afterthought Syndrome

Saturday:
     Threat Modeling

Sunday:
     Bootkits
     Stupid Whitehat Tricks

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From briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 15:08:23 2014
From: briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com (Brian Coca)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:08:23 -0400
Subject: [talk] libressl portable 1st release
Message-ID: <CADn+HsxKnf8y3zbHLo4VzBntKacj6xoedAnSTyUyDa35YyjeeA@mail.gmail.com>

JIC someone missed this:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=140510291304119&w=2
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From marco at metm.org  Wed Jul 16 11:04:39 2014
From: marco at metm.org (Marco Scoffier)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:04:39 -0400
Subject: [talk] pfsense traffic shaping
Message-ID: <53C69487.9050205@metm.org>

Has anyone set up a pfsense router or bridge for traffic shaping for 
testing different network environments ? Simulate slower connections, 
noisy connections, dropped packets etc.

Any tips ? Preferred setups ?

Marco


From pete at nomadlogic.org  Wed Jul 16 14:24:21 2014
From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:24:21 -0700
Subject: [talk] pfsense traffic shaping
In-Reply-To: <53C69487.9050205@metm.org>
References: <53C69487.9050205@metm.org>
Message-ID: <53C6C355.7040300@nomadlogic.org>


On 07/16/14 08:04, Marco Scoffier wrote:
> Has anyone set up a pfsense router or bridge for traffic shaping for
> testing different network environments ? Simulate slower connections,
> noisy connections, dropped packets etc.
> 
> Any tips ? Preferred setups ?
> 

never done this with pfsense - but i do make extensive use of
dummynet(4) in my lab environment here.

I've setup a freebsd box as a router/packet-filter between two subnets
and used various dummynet knobs to simulate latency and packet loss like
one would see on the internet.  this has been very useful and actually
pretty easy to manage.

you could also setup your dummynet box as a bridge as well to negate the
overhead of vlan/subnet traversals - but i have not had that requirement
yet in my environment.

HTH,
-pete


-- 
Pete Wright
pete at nomadlogic.org
twitter => @nomadlogicLA



From marco at metm.org  Wed Jul 16 17:07:02 2014
From: marco at metm.org (Marco Scoffier)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 17:07:02 -0400
Subject: [talk] pfsense traffic shaping
In-Reply-To: <53C6C355.7040300@nomadlogic.org>
References: <53C69487.9050205@metm.org> <53C6C355.7040300@nomadlogic.org>
Message-ID: <53C6E976.8090408@metm.org>


On 07/16/2014 02:24 PM, Pete Wright wrote:
> never done this with pfsense - but i do make extensive use of 
> dummynet(4) in my lab environment here. 

Thanks for the dummynet lead and tips Pete.
Just starting to look into this and am somewhat lacking in networking 
chops... We want to setup up a permanent "small box with ports" so I was 
poking around the pfsense recommended hardware but a small form factor 
PC would work also.

Marco


From mirimir at riseup.net  Wed Jul 16 19:27:04 2014
From: mirimir at riseup.net (Mirimir)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 17:27:04 -0600
Subject: [talk] pfsense traffic shaping
In-Reply-To: <53C69487.9050205@metm.org>
References: <53C69487.9050205@metm.org>
Message-ID: <53C70A48.7050206@riseup.net>

On 07/16/2014 09:04 AM, Marco Scoffier wrote:
> Has anyone set up a pfsense router or bridge for traffic shaping for
> testing different network environments ? Simulate slower connections,
> noisy connections, dropped packets etc.
> 
> Any tips ? Preferred setups ?

That's covered in the pfSense book, in Chapter 21, "Traffic Shaper".

> Marco
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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Jul 16 21:28:45 2014
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 21:28:45 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB wireless: a quick note
Message-ID: <53C726CD.2010109@ceetonetechnology.com>

I have to use wireless USB on a certain laptop due to the idiotic BIOS
whitelist.

Quick note about drivers on OpenBSD.

I have found most are using urtwn(4) which is on the flakey side,
including that one a bunch of us bought from Maker Faire last year.

But I bought a few at Microcenter, and one happened to use run(4) with
RT5390.  So far, so good... but happy to have a Ralink chipset.  The
label is "Tenda" with the model W311MI.

g


From spork at bway.net  Wed Jul 16 22:06:18 2014
From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 22:06:18 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB wireless: a quick note
In-Reply-To: <53C726CD.2010109@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <53C726CD.2010109@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <AECCC64A-6F1C-4B7C-BBB0-5E7045A772E4@bway.net>

On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:28 PM, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:

> I have to use wireless USB on a certain laptop due to the idiotic BIOS
> whitelist.

I stumbled on this recently while googling (dont own a laptop with
these shenanigans, but was curious about what people do to
workaround the issue):

http://www.endeer.cz/bios.tools/bios.html

I suspect its a little dated, and Im assuming youre talking Lenovo,
which you may not be.

Oh, this looks more recent:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_unauthorized_MiniPCI_network_card

Looks pretty neat, hopefully they havent made the checks more
complex in later models.

C

> Quick note about drivers on OpenBSD.
> 
> I have found most are using urtwn(4) which is on the flakey side,
> including that one a bunch of us bought from Maker Faire last year.
> 
> But I bought a few at Microcenter, and one happened to use run(4) with
> RT5390.  So far, so good... but happy to have a Ralink chipset.  The
> label is "Tenda" with the model W311MI.
> 
> g
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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Jul 16 23:07:01 2014
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 23:07:01 -0400
Subject: [talk] joke of the day... July 13th
Message-ID: <53C73DD5.4000009@ceetonetechnology.com>

do a whois on libressh.org

g


From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Jul 16 23:14:44 2014
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 23:14:44 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB wireless: a quick note
In-Reply-To: <AECCC64A-6F1C-4B7C-BBB0-5E7045A772E4@bway.net>
References: <53C726CD.2010109@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <AECCC64A-6F1C-4B7C-BBB0-5E7045A772E4@bway.net>
Message-ID: <53C73FA4.7000406@ceetonetechnology.com>

Charles Sprickman:
> On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:28 PM, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have to use wireless USB on a certain laptop due to the idiotic BIOS
>> whitelist.
> 
> I stumbled on this recently while googling (dont own a laptop with
> these shenanigans, but was curious about what people do to
> workaround the issue):
> 
> http://www.endeer.cz/bios.tools/bios.html
> 
> I suspect its a little dated, and Im assuming youre talking Lenovo,
> which you may not be.

Lenovo I am.

> 
> Oh, this looks more recent:
> 
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_unauthorized_MiniPCI_network_card
> 
> Looks pretty neat, hopefully they havent made the checks more
> complex in later models.

So there's a bios fix for it... from a third party dev.  But I need to
reflash it since I updated to a more recent BIOS.

In the spirit of laziness, I went USB wireless.. .but I'll flash again
at some point.

Utterly foolish attempt at "security"... I mean, is this a measure
against someone swapping your wireless card?  Was there some wave of
this happening at some point?  Childish. . .

g


From briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 23:36:15 2014
From: briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com (Brian Coca)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 23:36:15 -0400
Subject: [talk] joke of the day... July 13th
In-Reply-To: <53C73DD5.4000009@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <53C73DD5.4000009@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <CADn+HsyEg_4FaOxrFC2LRe3aQcXrYDvhHFcG_ST8s1z=YTZ77Q@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know if that is funny or sad ... probably both.


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:07 PM, George Rosamond <
george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:

> do a whois on libressh.org
>
> g
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From pete at nomadlogic.org  Thu Jul 17 14:46:49 2014
From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:46:49 -0700
Subject: [talk] joke of the day... July 13th
In-Reply-To: <53C73DD5.4000009@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <53C73DD5.4000009@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <53C81A19.7010905@nomadlogic.org>

On 7/16/14, 8:07 PM, George Rosamond wrote:
> do a whois on libressh.org
>

"classy"

-pete


-- 
Pete Wright
pete at nomadlogic.org
twitter => @nomadlogicLA


From jpb at jimby.name  Fri Jul 18 13:45:13 2014
From: jpb at jimby.name (Jim B.)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:45:13 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB wireless: a quick note
In-Reply-To: <53C73FA4.7000406@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <53C726CD.2010109@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <AECCC64A-6F1C-4B7C-BBB0-5E7045A772E4@bway.net>
 <53C73FA4.7000406@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <20140718174513.GA68898@jimby.name>

[snip]
> 
> Utterly foolish attempt at "security"... I mean, is this a measure
> against someone swapping your wireless card?  Was there some wave of
> this happening at some point?  Childish. . .
> 
> g


Interesting that you mention that.  That exact thing happened at
a project where I was the project lead.  A certain consultant had
performed an unauthorized command on a production router, screwing
up the network during the day (this was at Cablevision back about
2000). It was serious enough that the CV network staff traced
through logs to find out who had done this dastardly deed. 

The certain consultant became aware of what they were doing for
discovery and he then went and swapped out his wireless card
(PCMCIA in those days) with another consultant's card - but was
observed doing so and he mumbled that he needed to "test his
wireless for a couple of days".  

The network staff identified the card and PC now belonging to the
innocent consultant and accused him of disrupting the network.
A large argument started, and it then came out that the network
card had just been replaced by the guilty consultant.

Larger argument began including me with the guilty consultant.

It didn't end well. Guilty consultant was immediately removed
from the premesis and the project, but for reasons obscure to me
was not fired.

But that was a long time ago in a data center far, far away....


Jim B.




From briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 14:30:55 2014
From: briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com (Brian Coca)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:30:55 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB wireless: a quick note
In-Reply-To: <20140718174513.GA68898@jimby.name>
References: <53C726CD.2010109@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <AECCC64A-6F1C-4B7C-BBB0-5E7045A772E4@bway.net>
 <53C73FA4.7000406@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <20140718174513.GA68898@jimby.name>
Message-ID: <CADn+HszZCrmsh-NpSHojGe5s5jY-qeNPyYHh5GvZ9H21pDLJeg@mail.gmail.com>

he didn't think of just changing the MAC in software??
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From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 19:22:48 2014
From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Patrick McEvoy)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:22:48 -0400
Subject: [talk] Brian's talk on 8/6
Message-ID: <53CAFDC8.1060104@gmail.com>

Hello Folks,
Would anyone be interested in streaming the talk on 8/6? I will not be
able to make it. It promises to be interesting.
P