From george at ceetonetechnology.com Tue Sep 2 09:34:53 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:34:53 -0400 Subject: [talk] Wednesday meeting Message-ID: <5405C77D.2060608@ceetonetechnology.com> We had a last minute cancellation for the Wednesday meeting... but we're working on putting something together. The question for this list is: I know after the last meeting on OpenBSD ports, there are some people ready with ports to commit... sitting in the pipeline right now. If you are one of them, please ping admin@ Note the domain is lists. Part of the Wednesday meeting will be an update from whoever is starting to maintain a port. g From slynch2112 at me.com Tue Sep 2 09:40:07 2014 From: slynch2112 at me.com (Siobhan Lynch) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:40:07 -0400 Subject: [talk] Wednesday meeting In-Reply-To: <5405C77D.2060608@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <5405C77D.2060608@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: George - where are the meetings held these days - its been a while since I came around :) -Trish On Sep 2, 2014, at 9:34 AM, George Rosamond wrote: > We had a last minute cancellation for the Wednesday meeting... but we're > working on putting something together. > > The question for this list is: > > I know after the last meeting on OpenBSD ports, there are some people > ready with ports to commit... sitting in the pipeline right now. > > If you are one of them, please ping admin@ Note the domain is lists. > > Part of the Wednesday meeting will be an update from whoever is starting > to maintain a port. > > g > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From mark.saad at ymail.com Tue Sep 2 16:48:49 2014 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:48:49 -0700 Subject: [talk] Wednesday meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1409690929.86168.YahooMailBasic@web140106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Trish The talks are being held at About.com 1500 broadway , 6th floor, ny ny At this time we are only going to have an open discussion on pkgng and openbsd ports. If you would like to participate please email rsvp at nycbug.org . I have one confirmed attendee, so it may be somewhat boring whit out some hecklers . -- Mark Saad mark.saad at ymail.com -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 9/2/14, Siobhan Lynch wrote: Subject: Re: [talk] Wednesday meeting To: "George Rosamond" Cc: "NYCBUG" Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2014, 9:40 AM George - where are the meetings held these days - its been a while since I came around :) -Trish On Sep 2, 2014, at 9:34 AM, George Rosamond wrote: > We had a last minute cancellation for the Wednesday meeting... but we're > working on putting something together. > > The question for this list is: > > I know after the last meeting on OpenBSD ports, there are some people > ready with ports to commit... sitting in the pipeline right now. > > If you are one of them, please ping admin@? Note the domain is lists. > > Part of the Wednesday meeting will be an update from whoever is starting > to maintain a port. > > g > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk at lists.nycbug.org http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From george at ceetonetechnology.com Tue Sep 2 16:54:56 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:54:56 -0400 Subject: [talk] Wednesday meeting In-Reply-To: <1409690929.86168.YahooMailBasic@web140106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1409690929.86168.YahooMailBasic@web140106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54062EA0.4040609@ceetonetechnology.com> Mark Saad wrote: > Trish > The talks are being held at About.com 1500 broadway , 6th floor, ny ny > At this time we are only going to have an open discussion on pkgng and openbsd ports. > If you would like to participate please email rsvp at nycbug.org . Yes... > > I have one confirmed attendee, so it may be somewhat boring whit out some hecklers . Maybe because the announce didn't go out... g From jkeen at verizon.net Tue Sep 2 21:09:39 2014 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 21:09:39 -0400 Subject: [talk] rsvp link in [announce] messages Message-ID: <54066A53.7010800@verizon.net> Would it be possible to include an RSVP-generating link within the monthly [announce] messages? Perhaps: rsvp at nycbug.org From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed Sep 3 13:28:30 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:28:30 -0400 Subject: [talk] rsvp link in [announce] messages In-Reply-To: <54066A53.7010800@verizon.net> References: <54066A53.7010800@verizon.net> Message-ID: <54074FBE.2050203@ceetonetechnology.com> James E Keenan wrote: > > Would it be possible to include an RSVP-generating link within the > monthly [announce] messages? > > Perhaps: rsvp@ Well, it would only be feeding the spam bots then... They scan the internet (and these archives) for email addresses to spam. It's not a bullet-proof solution, but it does mitigate the problem a little. g From mark.saad at ymail.com Wed Sep 3 22:08:33 2014 From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 19:08:33 -0700 Subject: [talk] QEMU Userspace emulation Message-ID: <1409796513.95233.YahooMailBasic@web140102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> All I read a wile ago about how the FreeBSD devs were working on getting the qemu userspace emulation working on FreeBSD. Anyone every tried this thing out , other the say in the android dev kit ? Here is an example for ARM64 on Linux http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/how-to-run-aarch64-binaries-on-an-x86-64-host-using-qemu-userspace-emulation/ -- Mark Saad mark.saad at ymail.com From pete at nomadlogic.org Thu Sep 4 00:27:47 2014 From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 21:27:47 -0700 Subject: [talk] QEMU Userspace emulation In-Reply-To: <1409796513.95233.YahooMailBasic@web140102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1409796513.95233.YahooMailBasic@web140102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5407EA43.9050902@nomadlogic.org> On 9/3/14 7:08 PM, Mark Saad wrote: > All > I read a wile ago about how the FreeBSD devs were working on getting the qemu userspace emulation working on FreeBSD. > Anyone every tried this thing out , other the say in the android dev kit ? > > Here is an example for ARM64 on Linux > > http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/how-to-run-aarch64-binaries-on-an-x86-64-host-using-qemu-userspace-emulation/ > this is great - i'd love to see arm running in qemu. do you know how they are going to port it, i guess they will need to create a armv6-bsd-user target or something? interestingly enough the latest qemu release builds this target with out issues :) ./configure --target-list=sparc64-bsd-user -p -- Pete Wright pete at nomadlogic.org twitter => @nomadlogicLA From lists at eitanadler.com Thu Sep 4 01:36:26 2014 From: lists at eitanadler.com (Eitan Adler) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 22:36:26 -0700 Subject: [talk] rsvp link in [announce] messages In-Reply-To: <54074FBE.2050203@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <54066A53.7010800@verizon.net> <54074FBE.2050203@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: On 3 September 2014 10:28, George Rosamond wrote: > James E Keenan wrote: >> >> Would it be possible to include an RSVP-generating link within the >> monthly [announce] messages? >> >> Perhaps: rsvp@ > > Well, it would only be feeding the spam bots then... They scan the > internet (and these archives) for email addresses to spam. Modern spam bots are far more sophisticated than the kind you are talking about. > It's not a bullet-proof solution, but it does mitigate the problem a little. Not a bit. It only annoys users to not have a complete link. -- Eitan Adler From george at ceetonetechnology.com Thu Sep 4 09:20:42 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 09:20:42 -0400 Subject: [talk] rsvp link in [announce] messages In-Reply-To: References: <54066A53.7010800@verizon.net> <54074FBE.2050203@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <5408672A.504@ceetonetechnology.com> Eitan Adler wrote: > On 3 September 2014 10:28, George Rosamond > wrote: >> James E Keenan wrote: >>> >>> Would it be possible to include an RSVP-generating link within >>> the monthly [announce] messages? >>> >>> Perhaps: rsvp@ >> >> Well, it would only be feeding the spam bots then... They scan >> the internet (and these archives) for email addresses to spam. > > Modern spam bots are far more sophisticated than the kind you are > talking about. Yes... I remember when reverse lookups on incoming mail dealt with all spam. I know it's a bit more sophisticated. > >> It's not a bullet-proof solution, but it does mitigate the problem >> a little. > > Not a bit. It only annoys users to not have a complete link. if it means 10% less spam to that account, users can toughen it out. g From okan at demirmen.com Thu Sep 4 09:37:01 2014 From: okan at demirmen.com (Okan Demirmen) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 09:37:01 -0400 Subject: [talk] rsvp link in [announce] messages In-Reply-To: <5408672A.504@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <54066A53.7010800@verizon.net> <54074FBE.2050203@ceetonetechnology.com> <5408672A.504@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <20140904133701.GA22766@lithium.khaoz.org> On Thu 2014.09.04 at 09:20 -0400, George Rosamond wrote: > Eitan Adler wrote: > > On 3 September 2014 10:28, George Rosamond > > wrote: > >> James E Keenan wrote: > >>> > >>> Would it be possible to include an RSVP-generating link within > >>> the monthly [announce] messages? > >>> > >>> Perhaps: rsvp@ > >> > >> Well, it would only be feeding the spam bots then... They scan > >> the internet (and these archives) for email addresses to spam. > > > > Modern spam bots are far more sophisticated than the kind you are > > talking about. > > Yes... I remember when reverse lookups on incoming mail dealt with all > spam. I know it's a bit more sophisticated. > > > > >> It's not a bullet-proof solution, but it does mitigate the problem > >> a little. > > > > Not a bit. It only annoys users to not have a complete link. > > if it means 10% less spam to that account, users can toughen it out. means nothing for spam really. what it really means is that someone has to write the mails in html as opposed to text - i suspect that's the real issue with how the announce messages are typed/sent. From sjt.kar at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 08:11:54 2014 From: sjt.kar at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:41:54 +0530 Subject: [talk] Cheap Laptops/Netbook Message-ID: Hi, I am on a look out for new laptops preferable running FreeBSD or OpenBSD. I am looking for the cheapest 100$ to 500$. Preferably 100$ - 250$. I was quite impressed with the below video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZlVO8SFcns I wanted to know whether there are resellers of Rasberry PI Portables. Regards, -- -- Sujit K M blog(http://kmsujit.blogspot.com/) From george at ceetonetechnology.com Tue Sep 16 09:10:03 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:10:03 -0400 Subject: [talk] Cheap Laptops/Netbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <541836AB.3050405@ceetonetechnology.com> Sujit K M wrote: > Hi, > > I am on a look out for new laptops preferable running FreeBSD or OpenBSD. > I am looking for the cheapest 100$ to 500$. Preferably 100$ - 250$. That was my quest for years. I have to say the first and only laptop where it didn't just hibernate but actually resumed was OpenBSD on a thinkpad x120e. It's awesome. Battery life is great. I think it's the ideal laptop in many ways. I run snapshots, and there was a period in which resume didn't work, but that's what happens when you run snapshots. You deal or you don't run snapshots. ACPI and APM never worked on any laptop for me with FreeBSD, although I still run in on other Thinkpads. When I say *never*, I mean a bunch of laptops for a long, long while. Utterly frustrating. > I was quite impressed with the below video. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZlVO8SFcns There's loads of these projects out there. > > I wanted to know whether there are resellers of Rasberry PI Portables. there's lots. adafruit or if you're in NYC, microcenter in Brooklyn and Yonkers. The BeagleBones are better boards overall, though. g From mike at myownsoho.net Tue Sep 16 09:23:47 2014 From: mike at myownsoho.net (MIke) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:23:47 -0400 Subject: [talk] Cheap Laptops/Netbook In-Reply-To: <541836AB.3050405@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <541836AB.3050405@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <1410873827.18724.1@mail.myownsoho.net> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:10 AM, George Rosamond wrote: > Sujit K M wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am on a look out for new laptops preferable running FreeBSD or >> OpenBSD. >> I am looking for the cheapest 100$ to 500$. Preferably 100$ - 250$. > > That was my quest for years. "bunny" presented at Defcon? on a home-grown arm-top, about microcontrollers embedded in sd cards. His home-build was then written about in Make magazine http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2686 looked pretty cool! sounds easy/a lot of work ;) > > I have to say the first and only laptop where it didn't just hibernate > but actually resumed was OpenBSD on a thinkpad x120e. It's awesome. > Battery life is great. I think it's the ideal laptop in many ways. > > I run snapshots, and there was a period in which resume didn't work, > but > that's what happens when you run snapshots. You deal or you don't run > snapshots. > > ACPI and APM never worked on any laptop for me with FreeBSD, although > I > still run in on other Thinkpads. When I say *never*, I mean a bunch > of > laptops for a long, long while. Utterly frustrating. > >> I was quite impressed with the below video. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZlVO8SFcns > > There's loads of these projects out there. > >> >> I wanted to know whether there are resellers of Rasberry PI >> Portables. > > there's lots. adafruit or if you're in NYC, microcenter in Brooklyn > and Yonkers. > > The BeagleBones are better boards overall, though. > > g > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ericshane at eradman.com Tue Sep 16 09:59:50 2014 From: ericshane at eradman.com (Eric Radman) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:59:50 -0400 Subject: [talk] Cheap Laptops/Netbook In-Reply-To: <541836AB.3050405@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <541836AB.3050405@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <20140916135950.GA5601@vm.eradman.com> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 09:10:03AM -0400, George Rosamond wrote: > Sujit K M wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am on a look out for new laptops preferable running FreeBSD or OpenBSD. > > I am looking for the cheapest 100$ to 500$. Preferably 100$ - 250$. > > That was my quest for years. > > I have to say the first and only laptop where it didn't just hibernate > but actually resumed was OpenBSD on a thinkpad x120e. It's awesome. > Battery life is great. Suspsend-resume/hibernate-unhibernate using OpenBSD is also flawless on the T60p. Battery life is not great, but they are versatile and great deal if you want a 14 or 15" screen (1400x1050). Eric From justin at shiningsilence.com Tue Sep 16 12:17:59 2014 From: justin at shiningsilence.com (Justin Sherrill) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:17:59 -0400 Subject: [talk] Cheap Laptops/Netbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you're looking for something Pi-based, any cost savings will be offset by the hardware hacking it will probably require. I am curious about the Intel Edison parts that SparkFun has now, speaking of that stuff... As other people have said, the Thinkpad machines are generally study and work well. I have an an ancient IBM R600 that I can't bear to throw away, even though I have nowhere to use it. It still runs great, considering. The Lenovo Outlet is selling a X131e refurb laptop for under $300 just now when I looked; I imagine ebay/craigslist might also have cheap models. I don't know if that particular model works as well as the other ones people report here. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Sujit K M wrote: > Hi, > > I am on a look out for new laptops preferable running FreeBSD or OpenBSD. > I am looking for the cheapest 100$ to 500$. Preferably 100$ - 250$. > I was quite impressed with the below video. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZlVO8SFcns > > I wanted to know whether there are resellers of Rasberry PI Portables. > > Regards, > > -- > -- Sujit K M > > blog(http://kmsujit.blogspot.com/) > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From george at ceetonetechnology.com Fri Sep 19 23:38:47 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:38:47 -0400 Subject: [talk] some pfSense, APU notes Message-ID: <541CF6C7.4030303@ceetonetechnology.com> Posting here someone on talk@ or via a search engine, might find it useful. The APU is PCEngines most recent board, replacing those well-loved Alix boards. They are 64-bit, and have either 2G or 4G of RAM. mSATA SDD, SD Card storage. http://pcengines.ch/apu.htm Since the APUs run hot, mounting the heat sink pad is critical. Rumor has it there's a few degree cooler on the mobo if you use the black case as opposed to the other ones. When flashing to the newest and latest BIOS, USB sticks were unsuccessful. I used an SD card with syslinux from gooze.eu, and replaced the ROM file as per the most recent at the particular APU product description page. The PCEngines support forum (http://www.pcengines.info/) can seem more like an ugly bar fight, but hold your nose and peruse and you may find something useful. For pfSense on the APU with SD cards, I'm using the amd64-nanobsd version. Over serial, pfSense needs cu/tip/minicom speed at 9600, while the APU is set for 115200. Setting the speed to 9600 means the BIOS information is missed. Setting the speed to 115200 means pfSense seems to hang at the "choose a slice" stage, when it actually isn't. On pfSense, console speed can be tinkered under the System tab, then Advanced, and scroll down to "Serial Communications." The usual "mount root" error can be resolved by manually mounting the two slices on the SD card, and adding the following to /boot/loader.conf.local (preferable over /boot/loader.conf) kern.cam.boot_delay=10000 I recommend making sure both slices boot. This can be done manually during the boot process, but can also be done through the "Diagnostics" tab, then "NanoBSD" in the first "Bootup Information" section. I'm guessing that recent pfSense upgrade problems I've been having on a variety of devices with flash media storage has to do with this. One (seemingly) stupid consideration for all devices requiring logins: change the default login name. Always. Brute forcing passwords is more difficult when the adversary is using the default login. HTH. g From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 14:36:17 2014 From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Patrick McEvoy) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:36:17 -0400 Subject: [talk] some pfSense, APU notes In-Reply-To: <541CF6C7.4030303@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <541CF6C7.4030303@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <54230F21.70206@gmail.com> George Rosamond wrote: > Posting here someone on talk@ or via a search engine, might find it useful. > > The APU is PCEngines most recent board, replacing those well-loved Alix > boards. They are 64-bit, and have either 2G or 4G of RAM. mSATA SDD, > SD Card storage. > > http://pcengines.ch/apu.htm > > Since the APUs run hot, mounting the heat sink pad is critical. Rumor > has it there's a few degree cooler on the mobo if you use the black case > as opposed to the other ones. Should you be unlucky enough to knock your heatsink off/ need a new one, here is the Netgate link for a replacement one. May you never need to use this link: If you're placing an order, add this to your order an extra heatsink: http://store.netgate.com/APU-Heatsink.aspx > > When flashing to the newest and latest BIOS, USB sticks were > unsuccessful. I used an SD card with syslinux from gooze.eu, and > replaced the ROM file as per the most recent at the particular APU > product description page. > > The PCEngines support forum (http://www.pcengines.info/) can seem more > like an ugly bar fight, but hold your nose and peruse and you may find > something useful. > > For pfSense on the APU with SD cards, I'm using the amd64-nanobsd version. > > Over serial, pfSense needs cu/tip/minicom speed at 9600, while the APU > is set for 115200. Setting the speed to 9600 means the BIOS information > is missed. Setting the speed to 115200 means pfSense seems to hang at > the "choose a slice" stage, when it actually isn't. On pfSense, console > speed can be tinkered under the System tab, then Advanced, and scroll > down to "Serial Communications." > > The usual "mount root" error can be resolved by manually mounting the > two slices on the SD card, and adding the following to > /boot/loader.conf.local (preferable over /boot/loader.conf) > > kern.cam.boot_delay=10000 > > I recommend making sure both slices boot. This can be done manually > during the boot process, but can also be done through the "Diagnostics" > tab, then "NanoBSD" in the first "Bootup Information" section. > > I'm guessing that recent pfSense upgrade problems I've been having on a > variety of devices with flash media storage has to do with this. > > One (seemingly) stupid consideration for all devices requiring logins: > change the default login name. Always. Brute forcing passwords is more > difficult when the adversary is using the default login. > > HTH. > > g > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From george at ceetonetechnology.com Fri Sep 26 08:16:42 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:16:42 -0400 Subject: [talk] pfSense 2.1.5 and PCI-e wireless cards Message-ID: <5425592A.6080406@ceetonetechnology.com> Apparently pfSense doesn't support the wle200nx's Atheros AR9280 from pcEngines, but with 2.2 there should be support for it since it's based on FreeBSD 10.x. Thus speaks redmine.pfsense.org. May work with 802.11b networks only. Are there any PCI-e wireless cards anyone is using on an APU that are compatible with 2.1.5? I see the compatible chipset list, but am wondering about specific cards. And FYI, there are no USB wireless chipsets supported by 2.1.5 AFAIK. TIA g From bcallah at devio.us Tue Sep 30 12:56:34 2014 From: bcallah at devio.us (Brian Callahan) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:56:34 -0400 Subject: [talk] OpenBSD 5.6 group buy? Message-ID: <542AE0C2.4050407@devio.us> Hi folks -- So OpenBSD 5.6 preorders are now up! http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=141209477503670&w=2 Unlike previous releases (and as mentioned previously) Austin is no longer handling the merchandise. Now a new openbsdstore.com (run by the OpenBSD Europe people in the UK) is doing it. This will mean higher shipping prices for us Americans (just did a shipping quote from them... over $10 just for one CD). Do we want to go in on a group buy for stuff? I can coordinate from up here in Troy or someone can take up the banner in NYC. I'm also throwing this out there for the Americans in devio.us ~Brian From george at ceetonetechnology.com Tue Sep 30 14:37:50 2014 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:37:50 -0400 Subject: [talk] OpenBSD 5.6 group buy? In-Reply-To: <542AE0C2.4050407@devio.us> References: <542AE0C2.4050407@devio.us> Message-ID: <542AF87E.6080309@ceetonetechnology.com> Brian Callahan wrote: > Hi folks -- > > So OpenBSD 5.6 preorders are now up! > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=141209477503670&w=2 > > Unlike previous releases (and as mentioned previously) Austin is no > longer handling the merchandise. Now a new openbsdstore.com (run by the > OpenBSD Europe people in the UK) is doing it. This will mean higher > shipping prices for us Americans (just did a shipping quote from them... > over $10 just for one CD). > > Do we want to go in on a group buy for stuff? I can coordinate from up > here in Troy or someone can take up the banner in NYC. I'm also throwing > this out there for the Americans in devio.us Good idea Brian. We should do this regularly. We should figure out how to coordinate though... could be a bit difficult with two different locations. Maybe one designated person per city/UG? g From bcallah at devio.us Tue Sep 30 14:42:30 2014 From: bcallah at devio.us (Brian Callahan) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:42:30 -0400 Subject: [talk] OpenBSD 5.6 group buy? In-Reply-To: <542AF87E.6080309@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <542AE0C2.4050407@devio.us> <542AF87E.6080309@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <542AF996.7060300@devio.us> On 09/30/14 14:37, George Rosamond wrote: > Brian Callahan wrote: >> Hi folks -- >> >> So OpenBSD 5.6 preorders are now up! >> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=141209477503670&w=2 >> >> Unlike previous releases (and as mentioned previously) Austin is no >> longer handling the merchandise. Now a new openbsdstore.com (run by the >> OpenBSD Europe people in the UK) is doing it. This will mean higher >> shipping prices for us Americans (just did a shipping quote from them... >> over $10 just for one CD). >> >> Do we want to go in on a group buy for stuff? I can coordinate from up >> here in Troy or someone can take up the banner in NYC. I'm also throwing >> this out there for the Americans in devio.us > Good idea Brian. We should do this regularly. > > We should figure out how to coordinate though... could be a bit > difficult with two different locations. > > Maybe one designated person per city/UG? > > g > So I've somewhat taken up the mantle for nationwide at the moment. If there's enough NYC interest in and of itself, I'm sure it would be fine to do a breakoff order for NYC. My thinking was get everything to Troy, then ship by small USPS flat rate box to people outside of Troy. Capital District people are welcome to get it from me directly (at a CDBUG meeting? :D See how I did that? :) ) ~Brian From nick at hackermonkey.com Tue Sep 30 21:25:50 2014 From: nick at hackermonkey.com (Nick Danger) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:25:50 -0400 Subject: [talk] OpenBSD 5.6 group buy? In-Reply-To: <542AF996.7060300@devio.us> References: <542AE0C2.4050407@devio.us> <542AF87E.6080309@ceetonetechnology.com> <542AF996.7060300@devio.us> Message-ID: <542B581E.9000706@hackermonkey.com> How does that affect the monies to OpenBSD themselves? I always try to order a CD and a shirt or something and try to kick in a little extra each time. If I have to order from Europe now, that might suck up my extra $$ as shipping. Kinda annoying. Nick On 09/30/2014 02:42 PM, Brian Callahan wrote: > > On 09/30/14 14:37, George Rosamond wrote: >> Brian Callahan wrote: >>> Hi folks -- >>> >>> So OpenBSD 5.6 preorders are now up! >>> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=141209477503670&w=2 >>> >>> Unlike previous releases (and as mentioned previously) Austin is no >>> longer handling the merchandise. Now a new openbsdstore.com (run by the >>> OpenBSD Europe people in the UK) is doing it. This will mean higher >>> shipping prices for us Americans (just did a shipping quote from >>> them... >>> over $10 just for one CD). >>> >>> Do we want to go in on a group buy for stuff? I can coordinate from up >>> here in Troy or someone can take up the banner in NYC. I'm also >>> throwing >>> this out there for the Americans in devio.us >> Good idea Brian. We should do this regularly. >> >> We should figure out how to coordinate though... could be a bit >> difficult with two different locations. >> >> Maybe one designated person per city/UG? >> >> g >> > > So I've somewhat taken up the mantle for nationwide at the moment. > If there's enough NYC interest in and of itself, I'm sure it would be > fine to do a breakoff order for NYC. > > My thinking was get everything to Troy, then ship by small USPS flat > rate box to people outside of Troy. Capital District people are > welcome to get it from me directly (at a CDBUG meeting? :D See how I > did that? :) ) > > ~Brian > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From pete at nomadlogic.org Tue Sep 30 22:49:00 2014 From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:49:00 -0700 Subject: [talk] OpenBSD 5.6 group buy? Message-ID: <201410010249.s912n4Yb014413@fulton.nycbug.org> On Sep 30, 2014 6:25 PM, Nick Danger wrote: > > How does that affect the monies to OpenBSD themselves? I always try to > order a CD and a shirt or something and try to kick in a little extra > each time. If I have to order from Europe now, that might suck up my > extra $$ as shipping. Kinda annoying. > http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html Might not have same satisfaction of getting latest release cd's, artwork and song - but might be a good way to make your USD stretch? -pete