From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Sun Mar  1 17:14:37 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 17:14:37 -0500
Subject: [talk] Fwd: [announce] Wednesday NYC*BUG: DTrace/book party with GNN
Message-ID: <54F38F4D.5090201@ceetonetechnology.com>

Wednesday's meeting is a big deal for us. Definitely spread the word
near and far.

Copies of the GNN/Kirk/RWatson book will be available to win or buy.


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [announce] Wednesday NYC*BUG: DTrace/book party with GNN
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 17:11:25 -0500
From: NYC*BUG Announcements <announce at lists.nycbug.org>
Reply-To: announce at lists.nycbug.org
To: announce at lists.nycbug.org

We have most meetings lined up through September, while AsiaBSDCon and
BSDCan are coming up, but this Wednesday we have a very special meeting.

Wednesday, March 4:
from "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System"
DTrace
George Neville-Neil
18:45, Stone Creek Bar & Lounge: 140 E 27th St

Abstract

Book Release Event for "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD
Operating System" with George Neville-Neil

The March meeting will be a special launch meeting for the recent
release of "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating
System." George Neville-Neil, one of the three authors, will be speaking
on DTrace, which is covered in the book. Copies of the book will be for
sale and giveaway. Hors d'oeuvres will be provided before and after the
meeting.

DTrace is the tool of choice for debugging and performance tuning
systems running on FreeBSD. Originally developed for the Solaris
operating system, DTrace was ported to FreeBSD and has been developed
and enhanced within FreeBSD ever since. Used by both systems
administrators and developers, this talk will discuss both how DTrace
works, as described in the latest edition of "The Design and
Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" as well as how to
effectively use the system to monitor systems and diagnose problems.

Speaker Bio

George Neville-Neil works on networking and operating system code for
fun and profit. He also teaches various courses on subjects related to
computer programming. His professional areas of interest include code
spelunking, operating systems, networking, time and security. He is the
co-author with Marshall Kirk McKusick and Robert Watson of The Design
and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System and is the columnist
behind ACM Queue's "Kode Vicious." He serves as a Director of the
non-profit, FreeBSD Foundation.

He earned his bachelor's degree in computer science at Northeastern
University in Boston, Massachusetts, and is a member of the ACM, the
USENIX Association and the IEEE. He is an avid bicyclist and traveler
who currently resides in New York City.
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From skreuzer at exit2shell.com  Sun Mar  1 17:23:31 2015
From: skreuzer at exit2shell.com (Steven Kreuzer)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 17:23:31 -0500
Subject: [talk] Thinkpad
In-Reply-To: <54DB7234.7060102@ymail.com>
References: <54DB7234.7060102@ymail.com>
Message-ID: <D6753793-ABE4-4DFB-9378-193672FAD732@exit2shell.com>


> On Feb 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Mark Saad <mark.saad at ymail.com> wrote:
> 
> All
> On Woot today, the t420 for $279
> 
> http://computers.woot.com/?ref=cnt_sb_cp_2 <http://computers.woot.com/?ref=cnt_sb_cp_2>

I just upgraded my T420 to 16GB of RAM so if anyone purchased one of these laptops and would
like to throw in another 4GB, you can have my spare SODIMM.

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From zippy1981 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  2 19:32:23 2015
From: zippy1981 at gmail.com (Justin Dearing)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 19:32:23 -0500
Subject: [talk] Putty 0.64 released 2 security holes fixed + connection
	sharing
Message-ID: <CABsCM1NRu4pNpR51j1ivUkm05GUF2qb9s+Trzvwr70Wap7zNXA@mail.gmail.com>

Tangentially of interest to BSD users, but for those that connect from
windows workstations:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

The connection sharing seems really interesting. I like for things that use
plink like Xming to try to piggyback off my existing putty sessions.
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From mspitzer at gmail.com  Mon Mar  2 20:09:23 2015
From: mspitzer at gmail.com (Marc Spitzer)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 20:09:23 -0500
Subject: [talk] Putty 0.64 released 2 security holes fixed + connection
	sharing
In-Reply-To: <CABsCM1NRu4pNpR51j1ivUkm05GUF2qb9s+Trzvwr70Wap7zNXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABsCM1NRu4pNpR51j1ivUkm05GUF2qb9s+Trzvwr70Wap7zNXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+qr9e4mwRS8udG+eYyNzFWB3=FO1Hs0ptTwvyLPe_Nje8cZkg@mail.gmail.com>

the connection in ssh is annoying and buggy, in my experience with it on
macs, just use keys or type the password.  if you use connection sharing
you are putting all your traffic/bandwidth through one socket using Time
Division Multiplexing, if I remember right, and it can get out of sync and
did for me.  That freezes all your connections hard.

Marc

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Justin Dearing <zippy1981 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tangentially of interest to BSD users, but for those that connect from
> windows workstations:
>
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
>
> The connection sharing seems really interesting. I like for things that
> use plink like Xming to try to piggyback off my existing putty sessions.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
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From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Tue Mar  3 08:59:22 2015
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy)
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:59:22 -0500
Subject: [talk] Fwd: [announce] Wednesday NYC*BUG: DTrace/book party
 with GNN
In-Reply-To: <54F38F4D.5090201@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <54F38F4D.5090201@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <1425391263-6164924.04640989.ft23E0Foe014234@rs149.luxsci.com>

On 03/01/15 17:14, George Rosamond wrote:
> Wednesday's meeting is a big deal for us. Definitely spread the word
> near and far.
> 
> Copies of the GNN/Kirk/RWatson book will be available to win or buy.

And from a special place in our hearts,
http://www.blackskyresearch.net/hackers.jpg

Hack the Planet,
.ike




From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Mar  3 09:03:54 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 09:03:54 -0500
Subject: [talk] Fwd: [announce] Wednesday NYC*BUG: DTrace/book party
 with GNN
In-Reply-To: <1425391263-6164924.04640989.ft23E0Foe014234@rs149.luxsci.com>
References: <54F38F4D.5090201@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <1425391263-6164924.04640989.ft23E0Foe014234@rs149.luxsci.com>
Message-ID: <54F5BF4A.2080700@ceetonetechnology.com>

Isaac (.ike) Levy:
> On 03/01/15 17:14, George Rosamond wrote:
>> Wednesday's meeting is a big deal for us. Definitely spread the word
>> near and far.
>>
>> Copies of the GNN/Kirk/RWatson book will be available to win or buy.
> 
> And from a special place in our hearts,
> http://www.blackskyresearch.net/hackers.jpg

from the movie?

Wow... nice find Ike.

Remarkable.  Didn't the Matrix have a BSD prompt?

g



From mark.saad at ymail.com  Tue Mar  3 09:13:35 2015
From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:13:35 -0500
Subject: [talk] Fwd: [announce] Wednesday NYC*BUG: DTrace/book party
	with GNN
In-Reply-To: <54F5BF4A.2080700@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <54F38F4D.5090201@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <1425391263-6164924.04640989.ft23E0Foe014234@rs149.luxsci.com>
 <54F5BF4A.2080700@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <85F28C93-FC6D-44C8-B62C-1582E71DD8E3@ymail.com>



> On Mar 3, 2015, at 9:03 AM, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
> 
> Isaac (.ike) Levy:
>>> On 03/01/15 17:14, George Rosamond wrote:
>>> Wednesday's meeting is a big deal for us. Definitely spread the word
>>> near and far.
>>> 
>>> Copies of the GNN/Kirk/RWatson book will be available to win or buy.
>> 
>> And from a special place in our hearts,
>> http://www.blackskyresearch.net/hackers.jpg
> 
> from the movie?
> 
> Wow... nice find Ike.
> 
> Remarkable.  Didn't the Matrix have a BSD prompt?
> 

The matrix cgi was rendered on Freebsd servers . 

http://m.slashdot.org/story/5398


> g
> 
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk



From pete at nomadlogic.org  Tue Mar  3 12:23:08 2015
From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright)
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 09:23:08 -0800
Subject: [talk] Fwd: [announce] Wednesday NYC*BUG: DTrace/book party
 with GNN
In-Reply-To: <54F5BF4A.2080700@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <54F38F4D.5090201@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <1425391263-6164924.04640989.ft23E0Foe014234@rs149.luxsci.com>
 <54F5BF4A.2080700@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <54F5EDFC.1010509@nomadlogic.org>



On 03/03/15 06:03, George Rosamond wrote:
> Isaac (.ike) Levy:
>> On 03/01/15 17:14, George Rosamond wrote:
>>> Wednesday's meeting is a big deal for us. Definitely spread the word
>>> near and far.
>>>
>>> Copies of the GNN/Kirk/RWatson book will be available to win or buy.
>>
>> And from a special place in our hearts,
>> http://www.blackskyresearch.net/hackers.jpg
> 
> from the movie?
> 

first you must hack the gibson, then you will know what movie that still
frame is from :p

i expected more from you gman - nice find .ike!

-pete


-- 
Pete Wright
pete at nomadlogic.org
twitter => @nomadlogicLA



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Mar  3 12:27:04 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:27:04 -0500
Subject: [talk] Fwd: [announce] Wednesday NYC*BUG: DTrace/book party
 with GNN
In-Reply-To: <54F5EDFC.1010509@nomadlogic.org>
References: <54F38F4D.5090201@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <1425391263-6164924.04640989.ft23E0Foe014234@rs149.luxsci.com>
 <54F5BF4A.2080700@ceetonetechnology.com> <54F5EDFC.1010509@nomadlogic.org>
Message-ID: <54F5EEE8.7080102@ceetonetechnology.com>

Pete Wright:
> 
> 
> On 03/03/15 06:03, George Rosamond wrote:
>> Isaac (.ike) Levy:
>>> On 03/01/15 17:14, George Rosamond wrote:
>>>> Wednesday's meeting is a big deal for us. Definitely spread the word
>>>> near and far.
>>>>
>>>> Copies of the GNN/Kirk/RWatson book will be available to win or buy.
>>>
>>> And from a special place in our hearts,
>>> http://www.blackskyresearch.net/hackers.jpg
>>
>> from the movie?
>>
> 
> first you must hack the gibson, then you will know what movie that still
> frame is from :p
> 
> i expected more from you gman - nice find .ike!

I can't remember this morning, much less seeing the Matrix in the
theater in 1997 or whatever.

And not a fan of that movie at all... and never saw Hackers from
beginning to end.

g and his fading tech legitimacy...



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Mar  4 12:05:56 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:05:56 -0500
Subject: [talk] Fwd: [announce] NYC*BUG Tonight: George Neville-Neil on
	DTrace
Message-ID: <54F73B74.8070106@ceetonetechnology.com>

Spread the word..


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [announce] NYC*BUG Tonight: George Neville-Neil on DTrace
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 08:11:12 -0500


2015-03-04 - The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating
System, George Neville-Neil
18:45, Stone Creek Bar & Lounge: 140 E 27th St
no RSVPs needed, Free and Open to All

Abstract

Book Release Event for "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD
Operating System" with George Neville-Neil

The March meeting will be a special launch meeting for the recent
release of "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating
System." George Neville-Neil, one of the three authors, will be speaking
on DTrace, which is covered in the book. Some introductory comments will
be made by the book's editor. Copies of the book will be for sale and
giveaway. There will be some hors d'oeuvres provided.

DTrace is the tool of choice for debugging and performance tuning
systems running on FreeBSD. Originally developed for the Solaris
operating system, DTrace was ported to FreeBSD and has been developed
and enhanced within FreeBSD ever since. Used by both systems
administrators and developers, this talk will discuss both how DTrace
works, as described in the latest edition of "The Design and
Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" as well as how to
effectively use the system to monitor systems and diagnose problems.

Speaker Bio

George Neville-Neil works on networking and operating system code for
fun and profit. He also teaches various courses on subjects related to
computer programming. His professional areas of interest include code
spelunking, operating systems, networking, time and security. He is the
co-author with Marshall Kirk McKusick and Robert Watson of The Design
and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System and is the columnist
behind ACM Queue's "Kode Vicious." He serves as a Director of the
non-profit, FreeBSD Foundation.

He earned his bachelor's degree in computer science at Northeastern
University in Boston, Massachusetts, and is a member of the ACM, the
USENIX Association and the IEEE. He is an avid bicyclist and traveler
who currently resides in New York City.
_______________________________________________
announce mailing list
announce at lists.nycbug.org
http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/announce




From slynch2112 at me.com  Thu Mar  5 14:03:11 2015
From: slynch2112 at me.com (Siobhan Lynch)
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:03:11 -0500
Subject: [talk] Old style packages (with compat) on FreeBSD 10?
Message-ID: <C2C215A7-FF1B-4D45-BC8F-3C0CCC22FF2B@me.com>

Ok, guys I?ve been out of commission and was at school for bioinformatics, so I am just getting back into this, so if this is an obvious question?. please just point me to the correct place.

I am trying to put splunk on a freebsd 10 box - but the package is an old format package (and worse its for FreeBSD 7).

So question, is there a way to install old format packages using pkgng, OR is there a better alternative to splunk that is free?

I shouldn?t have to wrestle with this stuff - lol - not after 20 years :) Thanks for the patience, I figure the fastest answer will come here...

-Trish


From briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com  Thu Mar  5 15:29:20 2015
From: briancoca+nycbug at gmail.com (Brian Coca)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 15:29:20 -0500
Subject: [talk] Old style packages (with compat) on FreeBSD 10?
In-Reply-To: <C2C215A7-FF1B-4D45-BC8F-3C0CCC22FF2B@me.com>
References: <C2C215A7-FF1B-4D45-BC8F-3C0CCC22FF2B@me.com>
Message-ID: <CADn+HsyiZoSedEKeADFQOidgQr_HVhkdDhsFJp1EU7aq-GHD5A@mail.gmail.com>

ignore how the domain looks (french author) http://8pussy.org/, i've
used octopussy with syslog in several companies.

also elastic search + logstash + kibana/graphana seems to be popular,
but there are too many moving parts and all take too many resources
for my taste.


From wynkoop+nbt at wynn.com  Thu Mar  5 15:42:11 2015
From: wynkoop+nbt at wynn.com (Brett Wynkoop)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 15:42:11 -0500
Subject: [talk] Old style packages (with compat) on FreeBSD 10?
In-Reply-To: <C2C215A7-FF1B-4D45-BC8F-3C0CCC22FF2B@me.com>
References: <C2C215A7-FF1B-4D45-BC8F-3C0CCC22FF2B@me.com>
Message-ID: <20150305154211.03c75168@ivory.wynn.com>

Greeting-

I know FreeBSD is great at running old binaries on newer versions of
the OS, but why not just grab the sources and build it from source? 

Depending on how old your old package is you can extract the contents
using a combination of gzcat and tar or bzcat and tar.

-Brett

-- 

wynkoop at wynn.com               http://prd4.wynn.com/wynkoop/pgp-keys.txt
917-642-6925

The Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that 
constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence 
at the time of the founding. ~ Justice Scalia



From wynkoop+nbt at wynn.com  Thu Mar  5 15:48:09 2015
From: wynkoop+nbt at wynn.com (Brett Wynkoop)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 15:48:09 -0500
Subject: [talk] New port announcement
Message-ID: <20150305154809.16c7e428@ivory.wynn.com>


Greeting-

After some prodding by others I have finally submitted my little shell
web server for inclusion in ports.  It has been accepted, so I am
pleased to point everyone to:

http://www.freshports.org/www/sws/

- -Brett



-- 

wynkoop at wynn.com               http://prd4.wynn.com/wynkoop/pgp-keys.txt
917-642-6925
929-272-0000

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep 
and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against 
tyranny in government" - Thomas Jefferson. 



From slynch2112 at me.com  Thu Mar  5 16:10:20 2015
From: slynch2112 at me.com (Siobhan Lynch)
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 16:10:20 -0500
Subject: [talk] Old style packages (with compat) on FreeBSD 10?
In-Reply-To: <20150305154211.03c75168@ivory.wynn.com>
References: <C2C215A7-FF1B-4D45-BC8F-3C0CCC22FF2B@me.com>
 <20150305154211.03c75168@ivory.wynn.com>
Message-ID: <28203CC5-86B4-4A9C-9EDB-FC7CFB79510A@me.com>


> On Mar 5, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Brett Wynkoop <wynkoop+nbt at wynn.com> wrote:
> 
> Greeting-
> 
> I know FreeBSD is great at running old binaries on newer versions of
> the OS, but why not just grab the sources and build it from source? 

Because they don?t distribute source :/

> 
> Depending on how old your old package is you can extract the contents
> using a combination of gzcat and tar or bzcat and tar.

That?s what I ended up doing, lol - I have it working now (just have to configure it) - I put it on it?s own zfs (zfs! I love that zfs now works!!! I was a big proponent of using ifs on solaris boxes)

It?s weird, a lot of old habits I am having to break, because 10.x is different enough to break my old habits, and I am having to remember a lot of stuff I haven?t done in almost 2 years now! I love where FreeBSD has gone, to be honest.

It took me a bit to realize I could untar it and just put it in it?s own directory, since splunk has its self-contained directory structure.

-Trish

> 




From zippy1981 at gmail.com  Thu Mar  5 16:16:38 2015
From: zippy1981 at gmail.com (Justin Dearing)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:16:38 -0500
Subject: [talk] New port announcement
In-Reply-To: <20150305154809.16c7e428@ivory.wynn.com>
References: <20150305154809.16c7e428@ivory.wynn.com>
Message-ID: <CABsCM1PXWuagHsucEirpSo+9wWSgTqm3+VikdFCpLoR8opt7Xg@mail.gmail.com>

That's great to have. Is there a public git (or svn,hg, cvs, visual source
safe, whatever) repo of the source code?

Justin

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Brett Wynkoop <wynkoop+nbt at wynn.com> wrote:

>
> Greeting-
>
> After some prodding by others I have finally submitted my little shell
> web server for inclusion in ports.  It has been accepted, so I am
> pleased to point everyone to:
>
> http://www.freshports.org/www/sws/
>
> - -Brett
>
>
>
> --
>
> wynkoop at wynn.com               http://prd4.wynn.com/wynkoop/pgp-keys.txt
> 917-642-6925
> 929-272-0000
>
> "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep
> and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against
> tyranny in government" - Thomas Jefferson.
>
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
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From wynkoop+nbt at wynn.com  Thu Mar  5 17:12:25 2015
From: wynkoop+nbt at wynn.com (Brett Wynkoop)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:12:25 -0500
Subject: [talk] New port announcement
In-Reply-To: <CABsCM1PXWuagHsucEirpSo+9wWSgTqm3+VikdFCpLoR8opt7Xg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20150305154809.16c7e428@ivory.wynn.com>
 <CABsCM1PXWuagHsucEirpSo+9wWSgTqm3+VikdFCpLoR8opt7Xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150305171225.05857046@ivory.wynn.com>

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:16:38 -0500
Justin Dearing <zippy1981 at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's great to have. Is there a public git (or svn,hg, cvs, visual
> source safe, whatever) repo of the source code?
> 

Source code is at http://prd4.wynn.com:8080/src/ which is served by
sws of course.

-Brett


-- 

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917-642-6925
929-272-0000

Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and
strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a
woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Thu Mar  5 17:42:37 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:42:37 -0500
Subject: [talk] New port announcement
In-Reply-To: <20150305171225.05857046@ivory.wynn.com>
References: <20150305154809.16c7e428@ivory.wynn.com>
 <CABsCM1PXWuagHsucEirpSo+9wWSgTqm3+VikdFCpLoR8opt7Xg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150305171225.05857046@ivory.wynn.com>
Message-ID: <54F8DBDD.7060004@ceetonetechnology.com>

Brett Wynkoop:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:16:38 -0500

Brett, again, same issue as before, same sig: your sig is disgusting,
and not acceptable on this mailing list:

"Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley..."

If you need a reference, try this:

http://www.nycbug.org/index.cgi?action=lists

<quote>
Effective communication on our mailing lists

The New York City *BSD User Group strives to create an environment
welcoming to all. This means we do not tolerate racist, sexist or
homophobic actions or comments anywhere on our mailing lists and at all
of our events. We hope that each and every NYC*BUG participant should
view this code of conduct as a reminder to help maintain a respectful
environment and create a welcoming community.
</quote>

You are being unsubscribed, and we ask that you do not return. There is
a scarcity of women in the open source community and technology in
general, and it's things like that remind us why.

Good riddance.

g


From witchdoctor.mdf at gmail.com  Thu Mar  5 17:53:21 2015
From: witchdoctor.mdf at gmail.com (Roberto Rodriguez Jr.)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:53:21 -0500
Subject: [talk] New port announcement
In-Reply-To: <54F8DBDD.7060004@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <20150305154809.16c7e428@ivory.wynn.com>
 <CABsCM1PXWuagHsucEirpSo+9wWSgTqm3+VikdFCpLoR8opt7Xg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150305171225.05857046@ivory.wynn.com>
 <54F8DBDD.7060004@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <20150305225320.GA88182@k8-bsd.hsd1.ga.comcast.net>

On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 05:42:37PM -0500, George Rosamond wrote:
> Brett Wynkoop:
> > On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:16:38 -0500
> >  
> Brett, again, same issue as before, same sig: your sig is disgusting,
> and not acceptable on this mailing list:
> Effective communication on our mailing lists
> 
> The New York City *BSD User Group strives to create an environment
> welcoming to all. This means we do not tolerate racist, sexist or
> homophobic actions or comments anywhere on our mailing lists and at all
> of our events. We hope that each and every NYC*BUG participant should
> view this code of conduct as a reminder to help maintain a respectful
> environment and create a welcoming community.
> 
> Good riddance.
> 
> g

Indeed, well done, g!
Some people simply just want more attention than others.
Very ignorant to the OPEN part of open-source.
They mistake it for FREE which is NOT. My .02

Roberto Rodriguez Jr.
Mach1ne Defense Foundati0n


From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Thu Mar  5 19:20:47 2015
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac Levy)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 19:20:47 -0500
Subject: [talk] New port announcement
In-Reply-To: <54F8DBDD.7060004@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <20150305154809.16c7e428@ivory.wynn.com>
 <CABsCM1PXWuagHsucEirpSo+9wWSgTqm3+VikdFCpLoR8opt7Xg@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150305171225.05857046@ivory.wynn.com>
 <54F8DBDD.7060004@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <1425601262-9718650.77031692.ft260Kmwx001122@rs149.luxsci.com>

On Mar 5, 2015, at 5:42 PM, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
> 
> You are being unsubscribed, and we ask that you do not return. There is
> a scarcity of women in the open source community and technology in
> general, and it's things like that remind us why.

Grieved, I was debating weather or not to add more attention to this thread by adding to it.  I also do not intend to gang up on Brett here, (the subject of his initial post is cool).  Yet, because this is the second incident, I see no need for any explanation:

Without apology, the contents of that footer is in no way acceptable on this list.

Best,
.ike





From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Fri Mar  6 16:20:43 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 16:20:43 -0500
Subject: [talk] call for Tor buildbot slaves
Message-ID: <54FA1A2B.7080409@ceetonetechnology.com>

Someone from the Tor-BSD list (on this server) setup an unofficial BSD
Buildbot for Tor located at 81.7.14.172.

There's just under ten boxes listed, and there's some git activity
happening.

If you're running a Tor relay or bridge, and are interested in helping
to participate, the instructions for each of the BSDs are listed.

g


From pete at nomadlogic.org  Fri Mar  6 18:27:57 2015
From: pete at nomadlogic.org (Pete Wright)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 15:27:57 -0800
Subject: [talk] call for Tor buildbot slaves
In-Reply-To: <54FA1A2B.7080409@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <54FA1A2B.7080409@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <54FA37FD.7060106@nomadlogic.org>


On 03/06/15 13:20, George Rosamond wrote:
> Someone from the Tor-BSD list (on this server) setup an unofficial BSD
> Buildbot for Tor located at 81.7.14.172.
> 
> There's just under ten boxes listed, and there's some git activity
> happening.
> 
> If you're running a Tor relay or bridge, and are interested in helping
> to participate, the instructions for each of the BSDs are listed.
> 

i have a related question about this topic.  so i am running an OpenBSD
instance and am trying to figure out a way to fix a bug i'm running into
with the buildbot tool.

basically it looks like the buildbot process is not picking up my
environment and as such is not loading my AUTOCONF_VERSION env var.

so three questions:
1) anyone familiar with buildbot know how to ensure tasks load
environment variables?

2) i've set both AUTOMAKE_VERSOIN and AUTOCONF_VERSION in ~/.profile for
the UID running the buildbot python program?

3) where is a better location on openbsd for me to define these
arguments globally?

the buildbot workflow is pretty simple.  it does git clone -> autogen.sh
-> configure -> make -> make test -> make check

i'm failing on the autogen.sh step:

./autogen.sh
 in dir /home/buildslave/OpenBSD/build (timeout 1200 secs)
 watching logfiles {}
 argv: ['./autogen.sh']
 environment:
  HOME=/var/buildslave
  LOGNAME=_buildslave

PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin
  PWD=/home/buildslave/OpenBSD/build
  SHELL=/bin/sh
  TERM=xterm
  USER=_buildslave
 using PTY: False
Provide an AUTOCONF_VERSION environment variable, please
program finished with exit code 127
elapsedTime=0.129316



cheers,
-pete


-- 
Pete Wright
pete at nomadlogic.org
twitter => @nomadlogicLA



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Sat Mar  7 20:31:59 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 20:31:59 -0500
Subject: [talk] Fwd: freebsd/Crochet
Message-ID: <54FBA68F.6000806@ceetonetechnology.com>

Crochet is now an official FreeBSD project.. really a well-done platform
for building images, aimed initially just at ARM but it expanded.

g

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: freebsd/Crochet
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 20:57:43 -0800
From: Tim Kientzle <t
To: freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm at freebsd.org>

I am very happy to announce that the Crochet project has officially
moved from my
personal account to the FreeBSD project account on github.  It can now
be found at:

   https://github.com/freebsd/crochet <https://github.com/freebsd/crochet>

In particular, this means that a larger group of freebsd developers are
now participating
in ongoing Crochet development.

Practically speaking, github will redirect old URLs to the new location
and the move
should be transparent to existing Crochet users and contributors.

For those unfamiliar, Crochet is a tool for generating runnable system
images of
FreeBSD.  It was originally developed in mid-2012 for building
BeagleBone images and
has since expanded with support for many other ARM boards, as well as
Generic i386
and VMWare images.  It is similar in many respects to nanobsd, but has
more of a
focus on cross-building and supporting a variety of boot systems.
(Although I don?t
recommend it as a regular practice, I have confirmed that Crochet can
cross-build
runnable VMWare i386 images from a BeagleBone. ;-)

Best to all,

Tim

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From mike at myownsoho.net  Sun Mar  8 00:00:18 2015
From: mike at myownsoho.net (Mike Nichols)
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 00:00:18 -0500
Subject: [talk] Fwd: freebsd/Crochet
In-Reply-To: <54FBA68F.6000806@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <54FBA68F.6000806@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <38A8FF90-A1AF-4315-A436-E04D328B5D08@myownsoho.net>

Wow, awesome. i haven't had a chance to play with this yet, as i only heard about it last week. Cant wait to see where this goes, and try it out on a few different platforms i have -- including one that is exynos (arm64).

Anyone put together images for these?

On March 7, 2015 8:31:59 PM EST, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
>Crochet is now an official FreeBSD project.. really a well-done
>platform
>for building images, aimed initially just at ARM but it expanded.
>
>g
>
>-------- Forwarded Message --------
>Subject: freebsd/Crochet
>Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 20:57:43 -0800
>From: Tim Kientzle <t
>To: freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm at freebsd.org>
>
>I am very happy to announce that the Crochet project has officially
>moved from my
>personal account to the FreeBSD project account on github.  It can now
>be found at:
>
>https://github.com/freebsd/crochet <https://github.com/freebsd/crochet>
>
>In particular, this means that a larger group of freebsd developers are
>now participating
>in ongoing Crochet development.
>
>Practically speaking, github will redirect old URLs to the new location
>and the move
>should be transparent to existing Crochet users and contributors.
>
>For those unfamiliar, Crochet is a tool for generating runnable system
>images of
>FreeBSD.  It was originally developed in mid-2012 for building
>BeagleBone images and
>has since expanded with support for many other ARM boards, as well as
>Generic i386
>and VMWare images.  It is similar in many respects to nanobsd, but has
>more of a
>focus on cross-building and supporting a variety of boot systems.
>(Although I don?t
>recommend it as a regular practice, I have confirmed that Crochet can
>cross-build
>runnable VMWare i386 images from a BeagleBone. ;-)
>
>Best to all,
>
>Tim
>
>_______________________________________________
>freebsd-arm at freebsd.org mailing list
>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm
>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe at freebsd.org"
>
>_______________________________________________
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From skreuzer at exit2shell.com  Wed Mar 18 19:46:04 2015
From: skreuzer at exit2shell.com (Steven Kreuzer)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:46:04 -0400
Subject: [talk] NetBSD on Hardkernel ODROID-C1
Message-ID: <3BC561AA-1117-4573-8EA9-C0F0FE909A67@exit2shell.com>

NetBSD now runs on a $35 dollar quad core ARMv7 board that has 1G of RAM and gigabit ethernet

http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_ported_to_hardkernel_odroid <http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_ported_to_hardkernel_odroid>
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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Mar 18 19:48:11 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:48:11 -0400
Subject: [talk] cool infosec products
Message-ID: <550A0EBB.4000506@ceetonetechnology.com>

int3.cc

Including a 'usb condom'/syncstop ... adapter which allows you to plug
in a USB device while blocking data pins.

g


From steve.b at osfda.org  Wed Mar 18 19:52:46 2015
From: steve.b at osfda.org (Steve)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:52:46 -0400
Subject: [talk] cool infosec products
In-Reply-To: <550A0EBB.4000506@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <550A0EBB.4000506@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <550A0FCE.8000009@osfda.org>

I have a Kanguru, that has a dip-switch on it.

Now if you really want to impress, get an Aegis...


On 3/18/2015 7:48 PM, George Rosamond wrote:
> int3.cc
>
> Including a 'usb condom'/syncstop ... adapter which allows you to plug
> in a USB device while blocking data pins.
>
> g
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Mar 18 19:53:52 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:53:52 -0400
Subject: [talk] NetBSD on Hardkernel ODROID-C1
In-Reply-To: <3BC561AA-1117-4573-8EA9-C0F0FE909A67@exit2shell.com>
References: <3BC561AA-1117-4573-8EA9-C0F0FE909A67@exit2shell.com>
Message-ID: <550A1010.60805@ceetonetechnology.com>

Steven Kreuzer:
> NetBSD now runs on a $35 dollar quad core ARMv7 board that has 1G of RAM and gigabit ethernet
> 
> http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_ported_to_hardkernel_odroid <http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_ported_to_hardkernel_odroid>

I know there's been a lot of FreeBSD work on the ODroid also.

Daisuke Aoyama has Nas4Free running on it now, and it sounds relatively
stable.

I've been frustrated recently with ARM stuff due to regularly flaky
microSD cards left and right.  I can't do anything remotely
disk-intensive on them without getting bad CRC errors, 'undiagnosable'
svn errors, etc.

It seems only stuff using SD cards is consistent.

g



From mike at myownsoho.net  Thu Mar 19 11:36:24 2015
From: mike at myownsoho.net (MIke Nichols)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:36:24 -0400
Subject: [talk] NetBSD on Hardkernel ODROID-C1
In-Reply-To: <550A1010.60805@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <3BC561AA-1117-4573-8EA9-C0F0FE909A67@exit2shell.com>
 <550A1010.60805@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <1426779384.2373.65.camel@myownsoho.net>


> Steven Kreuzer:
> > NetBSD now runs on a $35 dollar quad core ARMv7 board that has 1G of RAM and gigabit ethernet
> > 
> > http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_ported_to_hardkernel_odroid <http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_ported_to_hardkernel_odroid>
> 
> I know there's been a lot of FreeBSD work on the ODroid also.
> 
Good to know, I'm excited :D
> 
> Daisuke Aoyama has Nas4Free running on it now, and it sounds relatively
> stable.
> 
> I've been frustrated recently with ARM stuff due to regularly flaky
> microSD cards left and right.  I can't do anything remotely
> disk-intensive on them without getting bad CRC errors, 'undiagnosable'
> svn errors, etc.
> 
> It seems only stuff using SD cards is consistent.
> 
> g
> 

That's why the Odroid's use EMMC modules, which come with adapters so you write to them as microSD's, but they boot on the first run like embedded flash.



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Thu Mar 19 11:39:13 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:39:13 -0400
Subject: [talk] NetBSD on Hardkernel ODROID-C1
In-Reply-To: <1426779384.2373.65.camel@myownsoho.net>
References: <3BC561AA-1117-4573-8EA9-C0F0FE909A67@exit2shell.com>	
 <550A1010.60805@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <1426779384.2373.65.camel@myownsoho.net>
Message-ID: <550AEDA1.9090202@ceetonetechnology.com>

MIke Nichols:
> 
>> Steven Kreuzer:
>>> NetBSD now runs on a $35 dollar quad core ARMv7 board that has 1G of RAM and gigabit ethernet
>>>
>>> http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_ported_to_hardkernel_odroid <http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_ported_to_hardkernel_odroid>
>>
>> I know there's been a lot of FreeBSD work on the ODroid also.
>>
> Good to know, I'm excited :D

Such a moving target with the arm hardware though.  I am going to need a
warehouse at some point as I accumulate.

>>
>> Daisuke Aoyama has Nas4Free running on it now, and it sounds relatively
>> stable.
>>
>> I've been frustrated recently with ARM stuff due to regularly flaky
>> microSD cards left and right.  I can't do anything remotely
>> disk-intensive on them without getting bad CRC errors, 'undiagnosable'
>> svn errors, etc.
>>
>> It seems only stuff using SD cards is consistent.
>>
>> g
>>
> 
> That's why the Odroid's use EMMC modules, which come with adapters so you write to them as microSD's, but they boot on the first run like embedded flash.
> 

So does the BBone Black and others.  I assume it will become (if not
already), pretty standard.. There's some issues with
"/root/copy-to-emmc.sh" script for the BBB which facilitates booting off
that as opposed to the mSD card, but it's a recent thread on freebsd-arm at .

g


From mark.saad at ymail.com  Sat Mar 21 21:06:47 2015
From: mark.saad at ymail.com (Mark Saad)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 21:06:47 -0400
Subject: [talk] Macbook Pro Screen Replacement
Message-ID: <550E15A7.4040806@ymail.com>

All
 My trusty old 2011 MBP's screen was smashed this week. I want to swap
in a new LCD, however I wanted to know if anyone had done this before
and how it was. Also does anyone know if I can swap a 1440x900 screen
for a 1680x1050 screen ? They are the same size 15" and the 1680x1050
was an upgrade for this model ? I cant find anything that says yes or no .

-- 
Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com


From jpb at jimby.name  Sat Mar 21 22:19:11 2015
From: jpb at jimby.name (Jim B.)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 22:19:11 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
Message-ID: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>


Hello gang,

I'm looking for recommendations for reliable USB wireless
adapters that work with FreeBSD.  I've bought several
that don't work (apparently no driver support) and before
I shell out more cash I figured someone on this list
will know.


Any advice much appreciated!

Jim B.




From johnweintraub at gmail.com  Sun Mar 22 02:17:02 2015
From: johnweintraub at gmail.com (John Weintraub)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 23:17:02 -0700
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
Message-ID: <CAKQkF1agE=6TBkQA021-J81VzLL95ZOqZGm0_BdGUAujNuyq_w@mail.gmail.com>

I'm curious, is this a frequent problem for BSD users? It used to be a
problem for Linux users, but that has changed for the better in the last 5
or so years. What about BSD? I am a newbie on BSD, so please refrain from
flaming me for my ignorance. Thanks.

JJW

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Jim B. <jpb at jimby.name> wrote:

>
> Hello gang,
>
> I'm looking for recommendations for reliable USB wireless
> adapters that work with FreeBSD.  I've bought several
> that don't work (apparently no driver support) and before
> I shell out more cash I figured someone on this list
> will know.
>
>
> Any advice much appreciated!
>
> Jim B.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>



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From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Sun Mar 22 05:57:53 2015
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 05:57:53 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <CAKQkF1agE=6TBkQA021-J81VzLL95ZOqZGm0_BdGUAujNuyq_w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
 <CAKQkF1agE=6TBkQA021-J81VzLL95ZOqZGm0_BdGUAujNuyq_w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150322095753.GB11678@scott1.scottro.net>

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 11:17:02PM -0700, John Weintraub wrote:
> I'm curious, is this a frequent problem for BSD users? It used to be a
> problem for Linux users, but that has changed for the better in the last 5
> or so years. What about BSD? I am a newbie on BSD, so please refrain from
> flaming me for my ignorance. Thanks.

It seems (nothing but anecdotal evidence based on a couple of laptops) that
the BSDs tend to be behind Linux in some hardware (and some, usually
proprietary, software) support. For example, I have an Asus UX31E, and its
wireless didn't work with FreeBSD till 10.x, whereas with Linux, at the
time I bought it (when it was relatively new), wireless worked out of the
box.




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From scottro at nyc.rr.com  Sun Mar 22 05:59:35 2015
From: scottro at nyc.rr.com (Scott Robbins)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 05:59:35 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <20150322095354.GA11678@scott1.scottro.net>
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
 <20150322095354.GA11678@scott1.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <20150322095935.GC11678@scott1.scottro.net>


Sent this from wrong email address at first, sorry.



> > I'm looking for recommendations for reliable USB wireless
> > adapters that work with FreeBSD.  I've bought several
> > that don't work (apparently no driver support) and before
> > I shell out more cash I figured someone on this list
> > will know.
> 
> For FreeBSD-10.1, the cheap Edimax is working for me.  (It didn't work with
> OpenBSD or FreeBSD-9.2)
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315091&cm_re=edimax_wireless_usb-_-33-315-091-_-Product

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From mmatalka at gmail.com  Sun Mar 22 06:48:29 2015
From: mmatalka at gmail.com (Malcolm Matalka)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 11:48:29 +0100
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
Message-ID: <CAKziXDX+c36WxCGd7urtmmrhsZqRR0rJA=SWP6evpAy=xZKmKA@mail.gmail.com>

I've had success with

http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/accessories/wifi-dongles/wifi-dongle-nano-usb/?search=wifi

It uses run driver.
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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Sun Mar 22 10:31:13 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 10:31:13 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <CAKziXDX+c36WxCGd7urtmmrhsZqRR0rJA=SWP6evpAy=xZKmKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
 <CAKziXDX+c36WxCGd7urtmmrhsZqRR0rJA=SWP6evpAy=xZKmKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <550ED231.2070701@ceetonetechnology.com>

Malcolm Matalka:
> I've had success with
> 
> http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/accessories/wifi-dongles/wifi-dongle-nano-usb/?search=wifi
> 
> It uses run driver.

There's a bunch out there that run fine on OpenBSD using run(4) and
urtwn(4).  run(4) is preferred since it doesn't require firmware, while
urtwn(4) does.

Microcenter sells a bunch for under $10.

There the Ralink one that uses the RT5390 chipset that uses run(4), but
I can't remember what it sells as, but I think it's the Tenda W311M1.

The urtwn(4) uses Realtek RTL8188CU and seems to sell as Trendnet.

I have one 802.11n usb dongle that isn't supported, but it seems to hide
on me every time I need to look at it.

> I'm curious, is this a frequent problem for BSD users? It used to be a
> problem for Linux users, but that has changed for the better in the last 5
> or so years. What about BSD? I am a newbie on BSD, so please refrain from
> flaming me for my ignorance. Thanks.

And JJW, we work to keep this list flameless.  We don't have tolerance
for that.  Please don't hesitate to ask questions.

As Scott said, it seems that closed/binary-requiring devices puts Linux
ahead.  But I'm not 100%, but I do think FreeBSD had usb support before
Linux.

g



From mmatalka at gmail.com  Sun Mar 22 10:43:21 2015
From: mmatalka at gmail.com (Malcolm Matalka)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 14:43:21 +0000
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <550ED231.2070701@ceetonetechnology.com> (George Rosamond's
 message of "Sun, 22 Mar 2015 10:31:13 -0400")
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
 <CAKziXDX+c36WxCGd7urtmmrhsZqRR0rJA=SWP6evpAy=xZKmKA@mail.gmail.com>
 <550ED231.2070701@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <87384xgkja.fsf@gmail.com>

George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> writes:

> Malcolm Matalka:
>> I've had success with
>> 
>> http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/accessories/wifi-dongles/wifi-dongle-nano-usb/?search=wifi
>> 
>> It uses run driver.
>
> There's a bunch out there that run fine on OpenBSD using run(4) and
> urtwn(4).  run(4) is preferred since it doesn't require firmware, while
> urtwn(4) does.
>

The only issue I've had with the dongle I mentioned running run(4) is
that the cannot achieve outbound speeds above 80 KB/s, while I can get
around 1000 KB/s inbound while running in hostap (I have not tested it
otherwise).  Not exactly sure why yet, but it makes using it as an
access point mostly useless.  Hoping to get a chance to investigate it
more in the near future.


From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Sun Mar 22 10:52:42 2015
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 10:52:42 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
Message-ID: <1427036042-2152085.01079398.ft2MErrYJ017579@rs149.luxsci.com>

On 03/21/15 22:19, Jim B. wrote:
> 
> Hello gang,
> 
> I'm looking for recommendations for reliable USB wireless
> adapters that work with FreeBSD.  I've bought several
> that don't work (apparently no driver support) and before
> I shell out more cash I figured someone on this list
> will know.
> 
> 
> Any advice much appreciated!
> 
> Jim B.

Got some of these for about $9 at Brooklyn micro-center:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2CP2N45870

Great support and no complaints on OpenBSD as run(4), not good for
running an AP, (as with most of these little nubs, I've found).  The
OpenBSD and FreeBSD man page are identical,
https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=run&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+10.1-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html

Best,
.ike




From ike at blackskyresearch.net  Sun Mar 22 10:57:04 2015
From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 10:57:04 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <20150322095753.GB11678@scott1.scottro.net>
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
 <CAKQkF1agE=6TBkQA021-J81VzLL95ZOqZGm0_BdGUAujNuyq_w@mail.gmail.com>
 <20150322095753.GB11678@scott1.scottro.net>
Message-ID: <1427036342-6899710.20689286.ft2MEwELP020836@rs149.luxsci.com>

On 03/22/15 05:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 11:17:02PM -0700, John Weintraub wrote:
>> I'm curious, is this a frequent problem for BSD users? It used to be a
>> problem for Linux users, but that has changed for the better in the last 5
>> or so years. What about BSD? I am a newbie on BSD, so please refrain from
>> flaming me for my ignorance. Thanks.
> 
> It seems (nothing but anecdotal evidence based on a couple of laptops) that
> the BSDs tend to be behind Linux in some hardware (and some, usually
> proprietary, software) support. For example, I have an Asus UX31E, and its
> wireless didn't work with FreeBSD till 10.x, whereas with Linux, at the
> time I bought it (when it was relatively new), wireless worked out of the
> box.
> 

One old article that may help explain,
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2006/04/27/openbsd-3_9.html

Best,
.ike




From jpb at jimby.name  Sun Mar 22 12:22:18 2015
From: jpb at jimby.name (Jim B.)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 12:22:18 -0400
Subject: [talk] USB Wireless Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <87384xgkja.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <20150322021911.GB85280@jimby.name>
 <CAKziXDX+c36WxCGd7urtmmrhsZqRR0rJA=SWP6evpAy=xZKmKA@mail.gmail.com>
 <550ED231.2070701@ceetonetechnology.com> <87384xgkja.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150322162218.GA87214@jimby.name>

* Malcolm Matalka <mmatalka at gmail.com> [2015-03-22 10:44]:
> George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> writes:
> 
> > Malcolm Matalka:
> >> I've had success with
> >> 
> >> http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/accessories/wifi-dongles/wifi-dongle-nano-usb/?search=wifi
> >> 
> >> It uses run driver.
> >
> > There's a bunch out there that run fine on OpenBSD using run(4) and
> > urtwn(4).  run(4) is preferred since it doesn't require firmware, while
> > urtwn(4) does.
> >
> 
> The only issue I've had with the dongle I mentioned running run(4) is
> that the cannot achieve outbound speeds above 80 KB/s, while I can get
> around 1000 KB/s inbound while running in hostap (I have not tested it
> otherwise).  Not exactly sure why yet, but it makes using it as an
> access point mostly useless.  Hoping to get a chance to investigate it
> more in the near future.

Good notes on speed, thanks.  My use case doesn't require high speed, just
basic connectivity,  terminal usage and small file transfer.  I'm looking
to see if I can use these to replace wired connections for the BSD
Professional Lab Exam. 

Cheers,
Jim B.


From spork at bway.net  Sun Mar 22 13:11:34 2015
From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:11:34 -0400
Subject: [talk] Macbook Pro Screen Replacement
In-Reply-To: <550E15A7.4040806@ymail.com>
References: <550E15A7.4040806@ymail.com>
Message-ID: <B0EB4B26-031E-4325-A51D-86384429ADF6@bway.net>

On Mar 21, 2015, at 9:06 PM, Mark Saad <mark.saad at ymail.com> wrote:

> All
> My trusty old 2011 MBP's screen was smashed this week. I want to swap
> in a new LCD, however I wanted to know if anyone had done this before
> and how it was. Also does anyone know if I can swap a 1440x900 screen
> for a 1680x1050 screen ? They are the same size 15" and the 1680x1050
> was an upgrade for this model ? I cant find anything that says yes or no .

I can?t speak about the process on that model (although that is what I?m typing on), but I found that my old 2006 MBP was very easy (and cheap) to replace.  It was also a 1440x900.  I paid a bit under $99 for a compatible LG panel.  The swap took less than an hour and I added a space invader behind the apple logo since I?d gone to the trouble of cracking the thing open.

I?m not seeing anyone stating they?ve done the swap, this thread speculates that the cable may be different:

https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/73405/Changing+screen+from+standard+1440x900+to+high+res+matte+1680x1050

The price premium is a bit much, but then again, $70 to not be glossy is worth it, IMHO. :)

https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Mac/MacBook-Pro-15-Inch-Unibody-Late-2008-through-Late-2011-LCD-Panel-/IF161-069-2

I do wonder if iFixit would tell you if the hi-res would work as part of a pre-sales chat...

Charles

> 
> -- 
> Mark Saad | mark.saad at ymail.com
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From bcallah at devio.us  Mon Mar 23 15:54:04 2015
From: bcallah at devio.us (Brian Callahan)
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:54:04 -0400
Subject: [talk] Me on BSDTalk
Message-ID: <55106F5C.2090401@devio.us>

I know it's generally bad form to promote oneself, but I recently sat
down with Will Backman of BSDTalk about some of the non-{NYC*,CD}BUG
stuff I do, specifically the devio.us shell server, of which I am one of
the admins.

http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2015/03/bsdtalk252-devious-with-brian-callahan.html

~Brian


From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Thu Mar 26 09:42:52 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:42:52 -0400
Subject: [talk] AsiaBSDCon 2015 presentations online
Message-ID: <55140CDC.9070005@ceetonetechnology.com>

>  Hi, all.
> 
>  AsiaBSDCon 2015's papers and slides are listed in the top of
> "NetBSD presentation" page:
> 
> 	http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/presentations/
> 
>  Thanks all.



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Mar 31 23:03:07 2015
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 23:03:07 -0400
Subject: [talk] NYC*BUG Upcoming
Message-ID: <551B5FEB.9000707@ceetonetechnology.com>

Reminder:

The March meeting will be held NEXT Wednesday.  There is no meeting
April 1.

April 8 2015
Blacklistd, Christos Zoulas
6:45, Stone Creek Bar & Lounge
140 E 27th St

Today's systems expose multiple network daemons and are constantly
attacked by a fleet of zombie bots or determined attackers. Scanning
logs to determine if an attack is in place in order to modify a firewall
to block an attack is an ad-hoc inelegant solution. Blacklistd is a
daemon and a library interface that attempts to correct this problem.

Christos' first experience with Unix was in 1983 while studying at
Cornell. He currently maintains a few Unix programs (file, tcsh,
libedit, rdist6) and he contributes to many others. He is a board member
of the NetBSD Foundation and a recipient of the USENIX Lifetime
Achievement Award for contributions to the Unix operating system. His
day job is in Finance.

Other Upcoming
note the special meeting on June 18.  Ingo Schwarze will be passing
through NYC and will be speaking. We will likely organize a social with
him for June 19.

BSCan registration is now open.

May 6: TBA
June 3: FreeBSD's NUMA, John Baldwin
June 12-13: BSDCan, Ottawa, Canada
June 18: Mandoc, Ingo Schwarze (WE NEED SPACE FOR THIS MEETING)
July 1: Staying in sync with the Precision Time Protocol, Steven Kreuzer
August 5: What's New with OpenBSD, Brian Callahan
October 1-2: EuroBSCon, Stockholm, Sweden (eurobscon.org)