From bcully at gmail.com Mon May 1 08:43:19 2017 From: bcully at gmail.com (Brian Cully) Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 08:43:19 -0400 Subject: [talk] encrypted chat server? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5168D8C0-09E3-41CE-9647-DE03926A109B@gmail.com> > On 29-Apr-2017, at 10:30, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote: > > I'm looking to do it with some form of end to end crypto, (I don't care > if the server itself does tls etc...), so I know client end tools are > probably the more important thing I should dig into looking at. > (Including iOS/Android apps.) > > - What's the state of the art for simple encrypted chat? Mostly XMPP from where I sit, but that shouldn?t be a surprise. ChatSecure is available on iOS/Android, supports old-school OTR and OMEMO (which is what Signal uses). There?s more out there for Android, but I?m not au fait with it, and iOS?s options seem to be, at least for free, ChatSecure. On the Unix side of things, libpurple and the Pidgin clients all support OTR (including Adium), though I don?t think OMEMO. CoyIM has builds for Windows, OS X, and Linux. Everything I?ve mentioned is FOSS, which repos on GitHub if you don?t want to use the pre-packaged stuff as well. > - Any OTR users in the house who can point me at an overview of the > state of that tooling? Old OTR works well, but can be kind of clumsy due to how the protocol sniffs itself. OMEMO is properly advertised, has a ton of support for different types of ciphers and can do key negotiation while one of the party?s offline. In basically every way a better protocol, but it?s more heavyweight, and doesn?t work with my client of choice (Adium), so I only really know about it from the XSF mailing list discussions. > - Is there any way to use good old IRC for transport, or is XMPP really > the thing? I think you?ll have a hard time finding anything that will do end-to-end encryption with group chats. It?s being worked on in the XSF right now, but nothing seems to support it well. Apple?s solution with Messages is to basically have your device send n copies of a message, each separately encrypted, without any real server support, like you?d find with something like IRC or XMPP MUC. > > This is obviously not good for iOS/Android use, but PGP integration is > cool, but I'd REALLY like to know if there is any chat tooling which > could leverage SSH public keys? (Already a culture my peeps understand > how to manage ver well?) PGP and OMEMO are supposed to work together, but as usual that comes with the normal PGP key management issues, and I?m unsure how much client support there is. Something like SSH isn?t going to work because of the way OMEMO distributes its public keys (from what I understand, it basically pre-generates a bunch of public keys which get stored on the server, each one is single use for a given messaging session, as the keys get used, new ones get put in). > On the server end, I'm obviously looking for a clean/reliable solution... Good luck. Let me know if anything works out for you. -bjc From george at ceetonetechnology.com Mon May 1 09:07:00 2017 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Mon, 01 May 2017 13:07:00 +0000 Subject: [talk] NYC*BUG Message-ID: <5cca29e5-05f9-e3ee-18a3-2b95ec1e5394@ceetonetechnology.com> May 3, Wednesday Building Open Source Random Number Generators, Rob Seward 18:45, LMHQ, 150 Broadway, 20th Floor, Manhattan Many of our secure encryption systems depend on black-box closed-source random number generators. After the Snowden documents revealed that the NSA tried to undermine random number generation with the DUAL_EC_DRGB algorithm, there is renewed interest in using open-source hardware as a more secure way to generate random numbers. With this in mind I set out to manufacture an open-sourced design on a small scale as a means to disseminate knowledge about true hardware random number generation. In this talk I'll discuss some of the thinking behind my project http://www.openrandom.org. Speaker Bio Rob is an iOS engineer at Electric Objects. He has been fiddling with random number circuits for about 10 years. He also makes art. ***** Sevan writes about pkgsrcCon 2017 July 1 and 2 in London, England. "This years annual pkgsrcCon is being held in London on July 1st & 2nd. There will be a evening social event on 30th of June beforehand. On July the 1st, we will hold a day of talks at the British Computing Society[1] thanks to the Open Source Specialist Group. While the primary focus is on pkgsrc, the theme of the day is building and packaging open source software in general and the challenges we face. Details for general attendees will be available soon but in the meantime, If you would like to present a talk on such a theme, please send the title, slot duration (minimum of 15 minutes) and a brief description (for the web site) to sevan At NetBSD.org." BSDCan is June 9, 10 in Ottawa Canada https://www.bsdcan.org/2017/ EuroBSDCon is September 21-24 in Paris, France https://2017.eurobsdcon.org/ From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed May 3 14:59:00 2017 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 18:59:00 +0000 Subject: [talk] NYC*BUG Tonight: Open Source RNGs Message-ID: <10431a73-7a12-5f63-74ad-94a3aeeca12c@ceetonetechnology.com> Tonight! May 3, Wednesday Building Open Source Random Number Generators, Rob Seward 18:45, LMHQ, 150 Broadway, 20th Floor, Manhattan Many of our secure encryption systems depend on black-box closed-source random number generators. After the Snowden documents revealed that the NSA tried to undermine random number generation with the DUAL_EC_DRGB algorithm, there is renewed interest in using open-source hardware as a more secure way to generate random numbers. With this in mind I set out to manufacture an open-sourced design on a small scale as a means to disseminate knowledge about true hardware random number generation. In this talk I'll discuss some of the thinking behind my project http://www.openrandom.org. Speaker Bio Rob is an iOS engineer at Electric Objects. He has been fiddling with random number circuits for about 10 years. He also makes art. ***** Sevan writes about pkgsrcCon 2017 July 1 and 2 in London, England. "This years annual pkgsrcCon is being held in London on July 1st & 2nd. There will be a evening social event on 30th of June beforehand. On July the 1st, we will hold a day of talks at the British Computing Society[1] thanks to the Open Source Specialist Group. While the primary focus is on pkgsrc, the theme of the day is building and packaging open source software in general and the challenges we face. Details for general attendees will be available soon but in the meantime, If you would like to present a talk on such a theme, please send the title, slot duration (minimum of 15 minutes) and a brief description (for the web site) to sevan At NetBSD.org." BSDCan is June 9, 10 in Ottawa Canada https://www.bsdcan.org/2017/ EuroBSDCon is September 21-24 in Paris, France https://2017.eurobsdcon.org/ From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com Wed May 3 19:21:22 2017 From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Pat McEvoy) Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 19:21:22 -0400 Subject: [talk] Stream link Message-ID: Http://www.nycbug.org/index.cgi?action=streaming Patrick McEvoy From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed May 10 14:59:00 2017 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 18:59:00 +0000 Subject: [talk] test Message-ID: From ike at blackskyresearch.net Wed May 10 15:23:51 2017 From: ike at blackskyresearch.net (Isaac (.ike) Levy) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 15:23:51 -0400 Subject: [talk] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10B09FDC-147E-422F-B98E-6D2EA3DFFDB1@blackskyresearch.net> sent from my mobile > On May 10, 2017, at 2:59 PM, George Rosamond wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk ACK, 10-4 From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Wed May 10 15:32:27 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 20:32:27 +0100 Subject: [talk] dmesg from WorkPad Z50 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1cee8095-d99a-9217-91de-ccf9d18e24a4@geeklan.co.uk> On 05/04/2017 11:56, Robert Menes wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I posted my dmesg from my WorkPad Z50 to dmesgd: > > http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=3148 > > Running NetBSD 7.1 on it. Haven't tried wifi just yet but I did try X. > X works but is so ridiculously slow that it's damn near useless. Just as an update, a couple of major bugs in MIPS support were squashed over the weekend in NetBSD, if you get the chance, try putting on a kernel from daily builds on your DOS partition and booting that. Curious if the slow I/O issue still persists. http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/HEAD/201705091910Z/hpcmips/binary/kernel/netbsd-GENERIC.gz Sevan From viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com Wed May 10 15:43:59 2017 From: viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com (Robert Menes) Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 15:43:59 -0400 Subject: [talk] dmesg from WorkPad Z50 In-Reply-To: <1cee8095-d99a-9217-91de-ccf9d18e24a4@geeklan.co.uk> References: <1cee8095-d99a-9217-91de-ccf9d18e24a4@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, Sevan. I'll give it a whack when I get a little opportunity. --Robert On May 10, 2017 15:32, "Sevan Janiyan" wrote: > On 05/04/2017 11:56, Robert Menes wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> >> I posted my dmesg from my WorkPad Z50 to dmesgd: >> >> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=3148 >> >> Running NetBSD 7.1 on it. Haven't tried wifi just yet but I did try X. >> X works but is so ridiculously slow that it's damn near useless. >> > > Just as an update, a couple of major bugs in MIPS support were squashed > over the weekend in NetBSD, if you get the chance, try putting on a kernel > from daily builds on your DOS partition and booting that. 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Maybe on my next paycheck I'll get one. > > Still looking for a board for RetroBSD. > > --Robert > > On May 22, 2017 08:50, "George Rosamond" > wrote: > > Anyone played with these amd64 boards yet? > > They are at MicroCenter. > > They have decent specs (but only one gigabit NIC) and are pretty cheap. > > There are no dmesgs in dmesgd.nycbug.org yet... > > g > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Shawn Webb Cofounder and Security Engineer HardenedBSD GPG Key ID: 0x6A84658F52456EEE GPG Key Fingerprint: 2ABA B6BD EF6A F486 BE89 3D9E 6A84 658F 5245 6EEE -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Sujit K M From crossd at gmail.com Mon May 22 11:02:24 2017 From: crossd at gmail.com (Dan Cross) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 11:02:24 -0400 Subject: [talk] Go As a Programming Language In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Book suggestion: "The Go Programming Language", by Donovan and Kernighan. https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Language-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/0134190440 On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Sujit K M wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a suggestion for a book on Go? Seems to be getting credible > Hype. How would you for instance write a HTML/Go Application with > SaSS/CSS. Doesn't seem to be possible via CGI or Java. Also how > secure are the systems that allow this? > > Regards, > Sujit K M > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin at shiningsilence.com Mon May 22 11:12:56 2017 From: justin at shiningsilence.com (Justin Sherrill) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 11:12:56 -0400 Subject: [talk] Asus Tinker Board In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Asus Tinker website says ARM, not amd64 - is there more than one model? On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 8:50 AM, George Rosamond wrote: > Anyone played with these amd64 boards yet? > > They are at MicroCenter. > > They have decent specs (but only one gigabit NIC) and are pretty cheap. > > There are no dmesgs in dmesgd.nycbug.org yet... > > g > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk From george at ceetonetechnology.com Mon May 22 11:17:00 2017 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 15:17:00 +0000 Subject: [talk] Asus Tinker Board In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Justin Sherrill: > The Asus Tinker website says ARM, not amd64 - is there more than one model? > Yes... you're right. I saw it in the store quickly, and assumed it was amd64 partially since it's from Asus. Meanwhile, after I did the initial post, I was reading about uboot configuration, and didn't update the thread. I haven't seen it mentioned on FreeBSD-arm@ yet... g From kmsujit at gmail.com Mon May 22 11:26:03 2017 From: kmsujit at gmail.com (Sujit K M) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 20:56:03 +0530 Subject: [talk] Asus Tinker Board In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 8:47 PM, George Rosamond wrote: > Justin Sherrill: >> The Asus Tinker website says ARM, not amd64 - is there more than one model? >> > > Yes... you're right. I saw it in the store quickly, and assumed it was > amd64 partially since it's from Asus. Don't get carried away with Asus or an android smart phone, if I was permitted to say. I see mine is a Octa Core, But according to me 4 cores out this are not used. From njt at ayvali.org Mon May 22 14:31:17 2017 From: njt at ayvali.org (N.J. Thomas) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 11:31:17 -0700 Subject: [talk] Go As a Programming Language In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170522183117.GB79342@ayvali.org> * Sujit K M [2017-05-22 20:29:25+0530]: > Is there a suggestion for a book on Go? Just started learning it recently myself. The "Tour of Go" site is pretty helpful if you already know how to program: https://tour.golang.org/list The thing that struck me as I started to learn is how different Go is from anything else I've ever encountered. It took me about a day to learn Python (I had Perl and C under my belt at the time), but Go does its own thing (some of it makes sense, other things I'm not so sure about). Thomas From phelanm at gmail.com Mon May 22 15:19:27 2017 From: phelanm at gmail.com (Mark Phelan) Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 15:19:27 -0400 Subject: [talk] Go As a Programming Language In-Reply-To: <20170522183117.GB79342@ayvali.org> References: <20170522183117.GB79342@ayvali.org> Message-ID: * Sujit K M [2017-05-22 20:29:25+0530]: > Is there a suggestion for a book on Go? maybe this so-called-object-relational-mapping thing gorm can give you a jump start? # follow: http://jinzhu.me/gorm/ mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ sudo apt-get install golang ..The following NEW packages will be installed: golang golang-1.7 golang-1.7-doc golang-1.7-go golang-1.7-src golang-doc golang-go golang-src 0 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 798 not upgraded.. mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ go get -u github.com/jinzhu/gorm package github.com/jinzhu/gorm: cannot download, $GOPATH not set. For more details see: go help gopath mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ go help gopath ... mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ export GOPATH=/home/mjp/src/golang/gorm/quickstart mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ go get -u github.com/jinzhu/gorm mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ ls |cat pkg src mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ cat qs.go package main import ( "github.com/jinzhu/gorm" _ "github.com/jinzhu/gorm/dialects/sqlite" ) type Product struct { gorm.Model Code string Price uint } func main() { db, err := gorm.Open("sqlite3", "test.db") if err != nil { panic("failed to connect database") } defer db.Close() // Migrate the schema db.AutoMigrate(&Product{}) // Create db.Create(&Product{Code: "L1212", Price: 1000}) // Read var product Product db.First(&product, 1) // find product with id 1 db.First(&product, "code = ?", "L1212") // find product with code l1212 // Update - update product's price to 2000 db.Model(&product).Update("Price", 2000) // Delete - delete product db.Delete(&product) } mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ go run qs.go src/github.com/jinzhu/gorm/dialects/sqlite/sqlite.go:3:8: cannot find package "github.com/mattn/go-sqlite3" in any of: /usr/lib/go-1.7/src/github.com/mattn/go-sqlite3 (from $GOROOT) /home/mjp/src/golang/gorm/quickstart/src/github.com/mattn/go-sqlite3 (from $GOPATH) mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ go get -u github.com/mattn/go-sqlite3 mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ go run qs.go # it works, as in: no errors, test.db exists? mjp at quirm:~/src/golang/gorm/quickstart$ ls |cat pkg qs.go src test.db On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:31 PM, N.J. Thomas wrote: > * Sujit K M [2017-05-22 20:29:25+0530]: >> Is there a suggestion for a book on Go? > > Just started learning it recently myself. The "Tour of Go" site is pretty > helpful if you already know how to program: > > https://tour.golang.org/list > > The thing that struck me as I started to learn is how different Go is > from anything else I've ever encountered. It took me about a day to > learn Python (I had Perl and C under my belt at the time), but Go does > its own thing (some of it makes sense, other things I'm not so sure > about). > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Green New Deal, Full Employment, 20 million jobs, 100% Clean Energy: http://www.jill2016.com/greennewdeal