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[George Neville-Neil]

On 20 Oct 2017, at 22:19, Scott Robbins wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 04:21:18AM +0000, fire crow wrote:
>> Hi thanks for the tips, 12.0 current from the svn head and 
>> drm-next-kmod > from ports didnt load up when vt initialized on boot. 
>> Im currently looking > at the vesa kmod, getting this error that im 
>> trying to work out.  > > $ kldload vesa > module_register_init: 
>> MOD_LOAD (vesa, 0x< f and numbers>, 0) error 19 > 
>> sysctl_unregister_oid: failed to unregister sysctl I have a page, by 
>> now probably outdated (and I've been really ill, so no time or energy 
>> to follow up But it seems as as if the docs wound up in 5 different 
>> places and are inconsistent these days.  Eventually, using 
>> http://srobb.net/freebsdintel.html got me having a so so Intel 
>> integrated card experience.  Not as good as Linux.  For example, if I
> got out of X after it started, I would have to ssh in a reboot to get
> access again, that sort of thing.
>
> Same issues with Intel wireless dual band cards, 50MBS speeds on LAN 
> with
> Linux, 2 MB on BSD.  (This is mentioned at some places in man pages)
>
> I have not had health to follow up on this for about a month though, 
> so
> maybe it's improved.  However from what I've seen, FreeBSD, and even 
> OpenBSD, are requiring more time, energy and research  to use as a 
> nice laptop.
> Conversely, my desktops, (NVidas) are just about as good with FreeBSD.
>
> But even 2-3 year old laptops give me problems.
>
> Then again, I don't know how much we give up in blobs and the like to 
> get
> the Linux stuff to work easily. I haven't tried any Atheros cards, and
> won't have  a chance to for awhile,but as far as wireless Intel, the 
> dual
> band stuff for iwm isn't working well.
>
> If this sounds as trollish and awful as it may look to me, apologies.
> Again, long period of illness right now and sometimes overly 
> medicated.
>
> But for a laptop in a NOC to get into a server, Free/OpenBSD will be 
> fine
>
> For a smooth scrollin', web browsin', fast graphic thing, might be 
> better
> off saving that for your workstation.  (With NVidia)
>
>
> There are lots of threads on the Intel stuff on forums.
> Some folks  got things to work.  One person feels  the problem is that
> FreeBSD developers use Mac but OpenBSD people do it right. But, if you 
> get
> lucky you may find someone with similar hardware who solved your 
> problem.
>
>
>
> -- 

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Best,
George