[talk] Fwd: [FreeBSD-Announce] 2019 FreeBSD Community Survey

Jim Thompson jim at netgate.com
Sun Apr 28 01:33:58 EDT 2019

> On Apr 28, 2019, at 12:14 AM, Sujit K M <kmsujit at gmail.com> wrote:
>> With that, I think a number of questions from the questionnaire deserve discussion:
>>> 7. The FreeBSD Project produces software. I view FreeBSD's software as…
>>> - a building block for commercial appliances (customizable kernel plus packages)
>>> - a competitive advantage in my workplace
>>> - a complete and self-contained operating system
>>> - a consumable piece of released or shrink-wrapped software (a release)
>>> - a suite of userland packages (e.g. ports)
>>> - a toolkit that builds an end-to-end, customized distribution (e.g. make world + poudriere)
>>> - an embeddable kernel (e.g. PS4)
>>> - an opinionated "operating system as a service" that I consume
>> OK- I’ve heard this “operating system as a service” vocabulary before.  What the heck does it mean?  I’m honestly clueless here.
> I have never heard or seen ads for FreeBSD for Amazon/Google Cloud.
> How do they recruit their developers.

Colin Percival on AWS:

Google itself on Google Cloud
https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-10 <https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-10>
https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-11 <https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-11>
https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-12 <https://console.cloud.google.com/launcher/details/freebsd-cloud/freebsd-12>

>> Namespace/cgroup support
>>> Immutable Server Images
>>> Docker Support
>>> Kubernetes Support
>>> Virtualization Support
>> Would have loved a more organized/separate question set about contemporary virtualization stuff, e.g.:
>> - running docker containers (where namespace/cgroup is important)
>> - kubernetes (choking back vomit, but yeah important to address for work)
>> - immutable server images (this sort of facility exists in FreeBSD, what here are we talking about?  A docker implement?)
>> - Differentiation of Hypervisor virtualization, (bhyve, et al), vs process try (jail, docker, k8s, et al)
> Docker??Kubernetes?? It is Linux/Mac/Windows Based, like it is
> dependent on kernel for these OS's.
> Even Solaris doesn't support Docker/Kubernetes as such. My question is
> what are the current alternatives for
> these if Google/Amazon support Cloud for FreeBSD.

While k8s doesn’t run on FreeBSD (though jails are quite similar), Docker does: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Docker

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