[talk] ZFS FreeBSD future confusion?

[Edward Capriolo]

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:

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>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 12:35 PM Isaac (.ike) Levy <
> ike at blackskyresearch.net> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote:
>>
>> > Aside from trying to keep up with 40-char tweets, has *anyone* in the
>> > FreeBSD universe written up a clear public statement about the state of
>> > things- and the future plans?
>> > (Like a plain language, coherent, paragraph or two.)
>>
>> Oh- I sortof found the answers I wanted on page 17 in Alan Jude's slide
>> deck:
>>
>> "Fighting the FUD
>> ●This news resulted in some immediate negative gut reactions
>> ●There is only one OpenZFS, we are all in this together
>> ●FreeBSD will get features sooner, be more involved upstream
>> ●Linux uses the SPL (Solaris Porting Layer) to run ZFS code as close to
>> the illumos upstream as possible
>> ●FreeBSD does similar, so using ZoL code will not inject Linux or GPL
>> code into the FreeBSD kernel
>> ●No Linux-KPI shims are used for ZFS code"
>>
>> Sounds rational.  I'm still feeling shaky, ZFS on FreeBSD is just *so
>> darned good* right now.
>>
>
> Basically, ZoL and FreeBSD had Illumos as our upstream. ZoL has added a
> bunch in a way that could be upstreamed, but weren't due to the extreme
> slow pace of Illumos taking changes, as well as viability issues with
> Illumos. FreeBSD is rebasing from Illumos to ZoL because the official
> upstream of OpenZFS is moving from Illumos to ZoL because the efforts of
> adding the missing bits since the fork to ZoL was much smaller than vice
> versa. ZoL is an unfortunate name because it has the trigger word Linux in
> it. The ZoL folks are not the LKM folks, but quite reasonable people
> without the GPL politics getting in the way that caused Linux to be such a
> trigger word.
>
> Warner
>

Microsoft tried to go after  folks like garmin just for using fat16.

Data on disk is owned by you. The code that happens to read or write the
data to a specific format can be copyrighted by x and licensed with y.

Look at xfs. It is basically universal and the world is better off for it.
Having the format to take the disk to other OS s gives you more options.
You can take that mysql data disk out of your Solaris machine and pop it
into your freebsd machine assuming big e little e is the same. Winning.
Then take it to a linux machine. Winning.


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