From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Dec  1 14:10:08 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:10:08 -0500
Subject: [talk] Wednesday Troff meeting details
Message-ID: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>

For this Wednesday's meeting 
(https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10678), we'll use a basic 
RSVP system.

You have to email to rsvp at lists.nycbug.org, and the Zoom meeting 
details will be sent the morning of the meeting.

During the meeting, we'll be on IRC at Freenode #nycbug, as usual.

While the meeting starts 1845 EST, we recommend joining earlier to make 
sure your connected up fine, and obviously for the catch-up aspect... 
it's been too long.

g



From jkeenan at pobox.com  Tue Dec  1 14:31:13 2020
From: jkeenan at pobox.com (James E Keenan)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:31:13 -0500
Subject: [talk] Wednesday Troff meeting details
In-Reply-To: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <fe8971df-4406-6b24-1d6b-b472a0f90ae0@pobox.com>

On 12/1/20 2:10 PM, George Rosamond wrote:
> For this Wednesday's meeting 
> (https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10678), we'll use a basic 
> RSVP system.

The meeting announcement links to this paper by the presenter:
http://www.schemamania.org/troff/for-the-love-of-troff.pdf

It would be good to get an email address to which we can submit comments 
on the paper to the author.  I didn't spot any email address in the PDF.

jimk



From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 15:07:00 2020
From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Pat McEvoy)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:07:00 -0500
Subject: [talk] Wednesday Troff meeting details
In-Reply-To: <fe8971df-4406-6b24-1d6b-b472a0f90ae0@pobox.com>
References: <fe8971df-4406-6b24-1d6b-b472a0f90ae0@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <8341E8B2-7E3B-40F3-862A-002754024EE9@gmail.com>



> On Dec 1, 2020, at 14:31, James E Keenan <jkeenan at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> ?On 12/1/20 2:10 PM, George Rosamond wrote:
>> For this Wednesday's meeting (https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10678), we'll use a basic RSVP system.
> 
> The meeting announcement links to this paper by the presenter:
> http://www.schemamania.org/troff/for-the-love-of-troff.pdf
> 
> It would be good to get an email address to which we can submit comments on the paper to the author.  I didn't spot any email address in the PDF.
> 
> jimk
> 
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> http://lists.nycbug.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/talk

Will ping jkl for email address for comments. Have tweeted and tooted the addition zoom info. Speak soon,
P



From ibsens at ripsbusker.no.eu.org  Tue Dec  1 15:15:23 2020
From: ibsens at ripsbusker.no.eu.org (Ibsen S Ripsbusker)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 20:15:23 +0000
Subject: [talk] Wednesday Troff meeting details
In-Reply-To: <fe8971df-4406-6b24-1d6b-b472a0f90ae0@pobox.com>
References: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <fe8971df-4406-6b24-1d6b-b472a0f90ae0@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20201201201524.B5C831080059@mailuser.nyi.internal>

I present my compliments to my great and good friends and have the honor
to invite their attention to the following matter.

For those of us who will not install Zoom on our personal computers
(because Zoom does provide packages for our operating systems or because
we value our freedom, for example), I invite someone to act as the
bridge between Zoom and Jitsi. You can open the Zoom and then share that
window on Jitsi. Of course, only do this if you already plan on being
used by Zoom anyway; I do not wish to force proprietary software on you.

I can provide the Jitsi service, as I have accounts on both the FSF and
SDF Jitsi servers.

If a Jitsi bridge is not arranged, I will join by telephone.

Hoping for a favourable answer, I pray that you will accept.
Ibsen



From viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 16:05:41 2020
From: viewtiful.icchan at gmail.com (Robert Menes)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:05:41 -0500
Subject: [talk] Wednesday Troff meeting details
In-Reply-To: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <CA+TaHT0hr-4HnhAtAmy-XM+SBo00xrrK1ay5WrPQj8uQ2FTTpA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:10 PM George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com>
wrote:

>
> You have to email to rsvp at lists.nycbug.org, and the Zoom meeting
> details will be sent the morning of the meeting.
>
>
>
 Silly question, but there's no rsvp list listed... do I email talk or
somewhere else to RSVP?

--Robert
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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Dec  1 16:15:42 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:15:42 -0500
Subject: [talk] Wednesday Troff meeting details
In-Reply-To: <CA+TaHT0hr-4HnhAtAmy-XM+SBo00xrrK1ay5WrPQj8uQ2FTTpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <CA+TaHT0hr-4HnhAtAmy-XM+SBo00xrrK1ay5WrPQj8uQ2FTTpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3f61047f-cae2-74a3-54bc-32629d3574a6@ceetonetechnology.com>

On 12/1/20 4:05 PM, Robert Menes wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:10 PM George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> You have to email to rsvp at lists.nycbug.org, and the Zoom meeting
>> details will be sent the morning of the meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>   Silly question, but there's no rsvp list listed... do I email talk or
> somewhere else to RSVP?
> 

Very silly!


> You have to email to rsvp at lists.nycbug.org, and the Zoom meeting details will be sent the morning of the meeting. 

g



From spork at bway.net  Tue Dec  1 16:49:01 2020
From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:49:01 -0500
Subject: [talk] Wednesday Troff meeting details
In-Reply-To: <3f61047f-cae2-74a3-54bc-32629d3574a6@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <CA+TaHT0hr-4HnhAtAmy-XM+SBo00xrrK1ay5WrPQj8uQ2FTTpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <3f61047f-cae2-74a3-54bc-32629d3574a6@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <BED00084-CA9E-47EB-B755-F1F833852AB6@bway.net>


> On Dec 1, 2020, at 4:15 PM, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
> 
> On 12/1/20 4:05 PM, Robert Menes wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:10 PM George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You have to email to rsvp at lists.nycbug.org, and the Zoom meeting
>>> details will be sent the morning of the meeting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>  Silly question, but there's no rsvp list listed... do I email talk or
>> somewhere else to RSVP?
> 
> Very silly!

Hey, I also read this as ?you have to visit lists.nycbug.org <http://lists.nycbug.org/>, where you?ll find rsvp information? (but yes, I do use a GUI email client that linkified ?lists.nycbug.org <http://lists.nycbug.org/>? making it all the more appealing as a destination to click on).

To be clear for anyone else mis-reading this:

?you have to send an email to rsvp ?at? lists.nycbug.org <http://lists.nycbug.org/> and an autoresponder will provide you with meeting details the next morning? (or something like that).

C

> 
>> You have to email to rsvp at lists.nycbug.org, and the Zoom meeting details will be sent the morning of the meeting. 
> 
> g
> 
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at lists.nycbug.org
> http://lists.nycbug.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/talk

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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Dec  1 17:08:08 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 17:08:08 -0500
Subject: [talk] Wednesday Troff meeting details
In-Reply-To: <BED00084-CA9E-47EB-B755-F1F833852AB6@bway.net>
References: <6dfcceec-c1a5-04b3-d3d5-99db1322ac5e@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <CA+TaHT0hr-4HnhAtAmy-XM+SBo00xrrK1ay5WrPQj8uQ2FTTpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <3f61047f-cae2-74a3-54bc-32629d3574a6@ceetonetechnology.com>
 <BED00084-CA9E-47EB-B755-F1F833852AB6@bway.net>
Message-ID: <dcb3ea4a-fc0c-268a-2c51-1a41c1b287c8@ceetonetechnology.com>

On 12/1/20 4:49 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote:
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2020, at 4:15 PM, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/1/20 4:05 PM, Robert Menes wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:10 PM George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You have to email to rsvp at lists.nycbug.org, and the Zoom meeting
>>>> details will be sent the morning of the meeting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>   Silly question, but there's no rsvp list listed... do I email talk or
>>> somewhere else to RSVP?
>>
>> Very silly!
> 
> Hey, I also read this as ?you have to visit lists.nycbug.org <http://lists.nycbug.org/>, where you?ll find rsvp information? (but yes, I do use a GUI email client that linkified ?lists.nycbug.org <http://lists.nycbug.org/>? making it all the more appealing as a destination to click on).
> 
> To be clear for anyone else mis-reading this:
> 
> ?you have to send an email to rsvp ?at? lists.nycbug.org <http://lists.nycbug.org/> and an autoresponder will provide you with meeting details the next morning? (or something like that).

>>
>>> You have to email to rsvp at lists.nycbug.org, and the Zoom meeting details will be sent the morning of the meeting.

Hmmm... ok Spork.

As I always say, "an editor is anyone who didn't do the writing"

g



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Dec  2 11:57:48 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 11:57:48 -0500
Subject: [talk] meeting details sent
Message-ID: <14e9ea38-9b10-4f59-37e9-5b531f01539e@ceetonetechnology.com>

If you didn't get Troff meeting details for tonight, ping me offline.

g



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Dec  2 18:50:45 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 18:50:45 -0500
Subject: [talk] meeting now
Message-ID: <8bbfe89e-20d6-fe70-1ba9-1ae492ffce34@ceetonetechnology.com>

For anyone on Zoom meeting, we are on Freenode IRC #nycbug, and avoiding 
the Zoom chat.

If anyone is having connection issue, ping us there if possible.

g



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Dec  2 21:17:12 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 21:17:12 -0500
Subject: [talk] troff meeting tonight
Message-ID: <82917b05-bd4d-1f1f-1f8d-e5168c7feb3a@ceetonetechnology.com>

I think I speak for many people when I say that was the first online 
video meeting since March that didn't give me a vicious headache.

Huge thanks to James for the meeting, and the many useful contributors.

We had some 26 people online. We are looking into doing something for 
January.  And hopefully we can all be onsite some time, some where, in 
the spring.

Again, huge thanks to Patrick for making this happen. We really should 
have done this earlier...

g



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Dec  8 10:01:44 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 10:01:44 -0500
Subject: [talk] dmesgd submission with curl
Message-ID: <20b16635-9077-7a53-3caf-5cd89c51b447@ceetonetechnology.com>

 From Dan L's twitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DLangille/status/1323963716153626626

dmesgd is at 4703 submissions since 2004...

* There's a couple of en-lang Wikipedia entries referencing it
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueOS#Hardware_requirements)

* Showed up on the pine64.org blog

* And Twitter (using goog operators: "site:twitter.com dmesgd")

g



From dan at langille.org  Tue Dec  8 17:53:05 2020
From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 17:53:05 -0500
Subject: [talk] dmesgd submission with curl
In-Reply-To: <20b16635-9077-7a53-3caf-5cd89c51b447@ceetonetechnology.com>
References: <20b16635-9077-7a53-3caf-5cd89c51b447@ceetonetechnology.com>
Message-ID: <CC567647-37D3-4645-B2E3-CBFD9650A347@langille.org>

> On Dec 8, 2020, at 10:01 AM, George Rosamond <george at ceetonetechnology.com> wrote:
> 
> From Dan L's twitter:
> 
> https://mobile.twitter.com/DLangille/status/1323963716153626626
> 

Do we have any reputable sources? ;)


? 
Dan Langille
http://langille <http://langille/>.org/

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From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Tue Dec 29 13:01:10 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 13:01:10 -0500
Subject: [talk] CharmBUG tonight
Message-ID: <48dd23b6-7fca-6e95-61f7-ff6ab2b9dd9c@ceetonetechnology.com>

FYI.. a casual CharmBUG meeting on meet.jit.si at 7 PM EST

https://www.meetup.com/CharmBUG/events/273254929/

g



From george at ceetonetechnology.com  Wed Dec 30 10:54:06 2020
From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:54:06 -0500
Subject: [talk] 2020 year end
Message-ID: <1b9c3fc6-ddf3-9c8a-2a62-a67b310b5d29@ceetonetechnology.com>

(also being posted to announce@, but if you're on talk@ you should 
confirm you're also on announce@)

We have every intention to get back into the groove for 2021 and we hope 
that NYC*BUG can continue to be a place to collaborate, socialize and 
network.

I'm sure I speak for many people on this list when I say that 2020 has 
been a trying year on multiple levels. We are starting 2021 off with a 
presentation from a character popular throughout the BSD community with 
the January 6th meeting, Michael W Lucas 
(https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10679). MWL is sure to 
educate and entertain, so definitely get the word out.

The year end is a great time to throw a few dollars, if you have them, 
to one or more of the BSD projects of your choice. Note that it's not 
just the size of the donation that matters, but also the number of 
donors as per standard non-profit rules, so every contribution matters.

DragonFlyBSD
https://www.dragonflybsd.org/donations/

FreeBSD Foundation
https://freebsdfoundation.org/donate/

NetBSD
https://netbsd.org/donations/

OpenBSD Foundation
https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html