From daniel at griffinbell.org Sun Mar 3 20:54:52 2024 From: daniel at griffinbell.org (Daniel Bell) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 01:54:52 +0000 Subject: [talk] RSVP Message-ID: <0101018e072bc54f-0e67cee2-2ce0-4d50-839b-f1a430b1115a-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> I'll be there. From george at ceetonetechnology.com Tue Mar 5 16:21:20 2024 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 16:21:20 -0500 Subject: [talk] NYC*BUG Tomorrow: NetBSD for the Advanced Minimalist Message-ID: <9978a4d8-0bb7-4134-8d0d-01e54518b3f6@ceetonetechnology.com> Please RSVP today! March 6 2024, 1845 EST/2345 UTC NetBSD for the Advanced Minimalist Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov NYU Tandon Engineering Building (new), 370 Jay St, 7th Floor kitchen area, Brooklyn (directly across Jay St from National Grid office). Closest subway exits in order are Jay St - MetroTech Station (A, C, R, & F Trains) Borough Hall (4 & 5 Trains). Notice: Location Change. You should RSVP for this meeting at rsvp AT lists.nycbug.org. You should receive an autoresponse email. Your email address is sufficient verification for entry. Do not expect manual replies to emails to RSVP@ This talk grew out of the experience of going on vacation with only a $100 Pinebook and trying, and succeeding to get work done. Roughly the topics will be: Installation and Updates - possibly automating them Setup after the first boot Battery monitoring with envsys framework tmux - the "GUI" of choice Network connectivity and wireless sudo setup pkgin and binary packages Email with mutt Using external media - USB sticks and CDs/DVDs - with and without sudo Audio Ripping CDs Various audio formats Podcasts Typesetting Typesetting with *roff Typesetting with tex / latex I don't want to give a list of tools only. I would like to discuss more about how they work - for example battery monitoring uses envsys framework that can read various sensors and I have a sample program to demonstrate it. Envsys can react when sensors reach critical values - for exampe when the battery is almost depleted or when the CPU gets hot. Email needs authentication - what the various options are. Wifi - wpa_supplicant is great if you use just a couple of networks, for example work and home; how we scan for wireless networks, how we sniff them. Ivan Ivanov is a Bulgarian software developer currently working for a financial company in New York City. Offsite Participation: We plan to stream via NYC*BUG Website unless the speaker requests otherwise. Q&A will be via IRC on Libera.chat channel #nycbug - Please preface your questions with '[Q]' From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com Thu Mar 7 03:57:31 2024 From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Pat McEvoy) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 03:57:31 -0500 Subject: [talk] NYCBUG March 2024: NetBSD for the Advanced Minimalist, By Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov Video Posted Message-ID: <18569d09-70ea-4999-9f57-dbd9b5f9639f@gmail.com> Youtube: https://youtu.be/-75TQMbar1Y ToobNix (Peertube) https://toobnix.org/w/84kE7QicaHhih9j8dJz3uP From nonesuch at longcount.org Sun Mar 10 11:40:36 2024 From: nonesuch at longcount.org (Mark Saad) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 11:40:36 -0400 Subject: [talk] Down the NetBSD rabbit hole Message-ID: Hey talk I was on twostopbits when I saw an article about the ill fated NC or network computer . The author mentioned the Oracle had a NetBSD based nc back in 1997 . https://halfhill.com/byte/1997-7_cover.html . If you search around there are some impressive looking screenshots of the setup . Anyone ever seen this on person ? Anyway some old school cool to think about . --- Mark Saad | nonesuch at longcount.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From recourse at gmail.com Sun Mar 10 14:44:33 2024 From: recourse at gmail.com (Joseph Jackson) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 13:44:33 -0500 Subject: [talk] Down the NetBSD rabbit hole In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I love looking up the old what could have been. Personally I think the NeXT GUI was the best. On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 10:41?AM Mark Saad wrote: > > Hey talk > I was on twostopbits when I saw an article about the ill fated NC or network computer . The author mentioned the Oracle had a NetBSD based nc back in 1997 . https://halfhill.com/byte/1997-7_cover.html . If you search around there are some impressive looking screenshots of the setup . Anyone ever seen this on person ? Anyway some old school cool to think about . > > --- > Mark Saad | nonesuch at longcount.org > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > https://lists.nycbug.org:8443/mailman/listinfo/talk From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed Mar 20 15:32:29 2024 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 15:32:29 -0400 Subject: [talk] iXsystems dropping FreeBSD Message-ID: <3dbcd6d7-6ae1-453b-9e35-ec755e095402@ceetonetechnology.com> I haven't touched any of their stuff in years, but I know they started building TrueOS on Linux "in parallel" a few years ago.. which sounded like a warning shot. https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/18/truenas_abandons_freebsd/ nonesuch mentioned this on #nycbug as another storage 'distro' based on FreeBSD, so I thought I'd drop here: https://xigmanas.com/xnaswp/ No idea who is involved in that. g From mwl at mwl.io Wed Mar 20 16:33:26 2024 From: mwl at mwl.io (Michael W. Lucas) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:33:26 -0400 Subject: [talk] iXsystems dropping FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3dbcd6d7-6ae1-453b-9e35-ec755e095402@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <3dbcd6d7-6ae1-453b-9e35-ec755e095402@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: Company starts off using FreeBSD for an appliance. Company switches to Linux. Company disappears. Lather, rinse, repeat. If you're looking for an opportunity to run a FreeBSD-based storage business with a ready-made client base, act now. -- Michael W. Lucas https://mwl.io/ author of: Absolute OpenBSD, SSH Mastery, git commit murder, Absolute FreeBSD, Butterfly Stomp Waltz, TLS Mastery, etc... ### New books: DNSSEC Mastery, Letters to ed(1), Prohibition Orcs ### From george at ceetonetechnology.com Wed Mar 20 17:35:33 2024 From: george at ceetonetechnology.com (George Rosamond) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 17:35:33 -0400 Subject: [talk] iXsystems dropping FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <38215D78-62EE-47F1-B5B3-5B6DCBE4324E@bway.net> References: <3dbcd6d7-6ae1-453b-9e35-ec755e095402@ceetonetechnology.com> <38215D78-62EE-47F1-B5B3-5B6DCBE4324E@bway.net> Message-ID: <80ef4d86-09b7-4ba7-a9a7-7b41bb7d17ac@ceetonetechnology.com> On 3/20/24 17:25, Charles Sprickman wrote: > >> On Mar 20, 2024, at 3:32?PM, George Rosamond wrote: >> >> I haven't touched any of their stuff in years, but I know they started >> building TrueOS on Linux "in parallel" a few years ago.. which sounded >> like a warning shot. >> >> https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/18/truenas_abandons_freebsd/ > > "Debian-based TrueNAS SCALE, aimed at providing storage for Kubernetes users" > > my eye is still twitching Oh, I forgot that. It's remarkable if someone finally found something to use Kubernetes for. +1 to MWL's point.. but isn't that what the Xigmana ppl are doing? I think I need to ping some people offline then. My issue with FreeNAS etc was that it evolved outside the basic utility a long time ago. Basic storage (remote and local) is still massively in demand. Provide NFS, SMB, do it over WireGuard, whatever. There is NextCloud but there should be simpler alternatives.. g From spork at bway.net Wed Mar 20 17:25:38 2024 From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 17:25:38 -0400 Subject: [talk] iXsystems dropping FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3dbcd6d7-6ae1-453b-9e35-ec755e095402@ceetonetechnology.com> References: <3dbcd6d7-6ae1-453b-9e35-ec755e095402@ceetonetechnology.com> Message-ID: <38215D78-62EE-47F1-B5B3-5B6DCBE4324E@bway.net> > On Mar 20, 2024, at 3:32?PM, George Rosamond wrote: > > I haven't touched any of their stuff in years, but I know they started > building TrueOS on Linux "in parallel" a few years ago.. which sounded > like a warning shot. > > https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/18/truenas_abandons_freebsd/ "Debian-based TrueNAS SCALE, aimed at providing storage for Kubernetes users" my eye is still twitching > > nonesuch mentioned this on #nycbug as another storage 'distro' based on > FreeBSD, so I thought I'd drop here: > > https://xigmanas.com/xnaswp/ > > No idea who is involved in that. > > g > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk at lists.nycbug.org > https://lists.nycbug.org:8443/mailman/listinfo/talk From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 19:21:20 2024 From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Pat McEvoy) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:21:20 -0400 Subject: [talk] Next NYC*BUG:20 Years of NYC*BUG and Can We Handle 20 More?, George Rosamond 2024-04-03 @ 19:45 EDT (23:45 UTC) Message-ID: <279D73AA-84DA-4171-A41A-FA8A8F2A9A93@gmail.com> 20 Years of NYC*BUG and Can We Handle 20 More?, by George Rosamond 2024-04-03 @ 19:45 EDT (23:45 UTC) More info: https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10695 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From mcevoy.pat at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 16:14:21 2024 From: mcevoy.pat at gmail.com (Pat McEvoy) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:14:21 -0400 Subject: [talk] Next NYC*BUG: 20 Years of NYC*BUG 2024-04-03 Message-ID: <3985D6D0-8BA5-45C0-9212-8AC5612728F5@gmail.com> Next NYC*BUG: 20 Years of NYC*BUG and Can We Handle 20 More?, by George Rosamond 2024-04-03 @ 19:45 EDT (23:45 UTC) More info: https://www.nycbug.org/index?action=view&id=10695