On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Edward Capriolo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:edlinuxguru@gmail.com">edlinuxguru@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The Apache v2 license is a BSD style one. Our shop is a very high %<br>
apache software. I am not sure if you want to count that.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My focus here was intended to be more on software produced by *BSD projects (such as the FreeBSD SMPng kernel, NetBSD Almquist shell, or more generally the POSIX 2008.1 compliant-ish shell and utilities user-land), and how portions of *BSD OSes can be usefully incorporated into other systems to the benefit of all. I think that Apache licensed software is useful fodder for discussion, but not for a *BSD User Group necessarily (unless it's software created by|for *BSD projects that happens to make use of an Apache license).</div>
<div><br></div><div>While I will continue to run FreeBSD personally, and very much like the fact that it is a complete OS, with a coherent and non-political objective ... as a system, I think that *BSD projects could benefit from encouraging those who are interested in running components of this system (either kernel or userland) married with other components. Conversely, I think those involved with other projects could benefit greatly by marrying portions of *BSD systems into their own systems.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am interested in what we can do as a *BSD User Group to facilitate this dialogue (assuming that this dialogue is useful, of course).</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Matthew Story <<a href="mailto:matthewstory@gmail.com">matthewstory@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Wanted to put out a feeler about doing some meetings on the benefits and<br>
> pitfalls of porting *BSD software to non-BSD systems. And the various<br>
> reasons why projects choose to do this, or to support alternate<br>
> distributions of their software that provide optional *BSD software.<br>
><br>
> There seem to me to be a variety of reasons for a project to do this:<br>
><br>
> 1. Quality of software (including better maintenance)<br>
> 2. Preference<br>
> 3. Politics (e.g. getting away from GNU GPLv3 ... or worse the AGPLv3)<br>
><br>
> A few examples come to mind immediately to me, all of which are Debian<br>
> based:<br>
><br>
> 1. Debian GNU/kFreeBSD Port -- <a href="http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/" target="_blank">http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/</a><br>
> * GNU userland + glibc on top of the FreeBSD kernel instead of Linux<br>
> 2. dash -- <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DashAsBinSh" target="_blank">http://wiki.debian.org/DashAsBinSh</a><br>
> * debian extension of the NetBSD Almquist Shell<br>
><br>
> With several projects taking a stand aginst GPLv3 (most notably Linus'<br>
> refusal to move Linux to GPLv3, but also Debian DFSG ruling on DFDL, etc)</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That should read DFSG ruling on GFDL (Debian Free Software Guideline and Gnu Free Documentation License respectively).</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">>, I would be interested in how we make components of the *BSD OSes viable<br>
> alternatives for other projects, and how we as a community of users can help<br>
> get those in search of GNU-replacements interacting and improving the<br>
> software that we all use every day.<br>
><br>
> So, anyone interested in a Meeting on dash, (or the ash port to Linux), or<br>
> Debian GNU/kFreeBSD? And what are the major barriers to adoption of *BSD<br>
> components by other projects to create GNU-free OSes? It seems an<br>
> inevitability that this will happen at some point, as the GNU project<br>
> continues to fragment itself further and further from anyone trying to do<br>
> work with any potential commercial application.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> regards,<br>
> matt<br>
><br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>regards,<br>matt<br>