<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 12:30 AM Brian Reynolds <<a href="mailto:nycbug-talk@reynolds.users.panix.com">nycbug-talk@reynolds.users.panix.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As luck would have it my laptop died at the beginning of Stay At Home.<br>
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I'm looking for advice on a laptop to buy that will run FreeBSD<br>
RELEASE. I know about the FreeBSD wiki Laptop page, and NYC BUG's<br>
dmesg site, but I'm hoping to hear additional real world experience<br>
from folks running FreeBSD as their daily machine.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You should be extra careful. My laptop old doesn't install freebsd 10+.</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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This laptop will mostly be used for web browsing, command line email,<br>
and administrating my home network. I expect to boot ZFS (hence<br>
FreeBSD), and tinker with virtualbox, jails, and maybe bhyve, but I<br>
have a desktop for any heavy lifting.<br>
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I want an IPS display with a resolution of at least 1920x1080. I'd<br>
prefer a 15-inch display, but might settle for 13-inch. I need<br>
wireless to work. The whole point is to be able to take the laptop<br>
around the house, and not be stuck in my computer room. I also want<br>
suspend/resume to work.<br>
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I don't care if bluetooth works. I guess if the trackpad is crappy<br>
enough I'd use a wireless mouse, but I don't mind using a Logitech<br>
mouse with one of their non-bluetooth USB dongles. I really want a<br>
three button mouse/trackpad, so I could wind up with a wireless mouse<br>
even if the trackpad is OK. Integrated graphics are fine. It would<br>
be nice if it's user upgradable, but I don't mind soldered RAM and<br>
storage so long as I know in advance, and can change my configuration<br>
when purchasing.<br>
<br>
My older daughter has a Dell Latitude 5490 from school that I know<br>
does not work (at least with FreeBSD 12.1-RELEASE). Dell also has<br>
Modern Standby (hibernation) issues with the XPS line. (At least<br>
under Windows 10 closing your Dell XPS 9570 and then putting it into a<br>
bag will void your warranty.<br>
<<a href="https://www.dell.com/community/XPS/FAQ-Modern-Standby/m-p/7514448#M55308" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dell.com/community/XPS/FAQ-Modern-Standby/m-p/7514448#M55308</a>>)<br>
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I've heard good things about Lenovo, especially the Thinkpad X1<br>
Carbon. However it looks like their current wifi is not supported on<br>
FreeBSD. Lenovo recently announced support for Linux on all their<br>
machines, but their website only lists four models, and of course<br>
Linux support doesn't mean FreeBSD works.<br>
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I would prefer to buy a new, current model so that I can get warranty<br>
service for the hardware if needed.<br>
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I really don't want to pay more than what a Mac Book Pro costs.<br>
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If new machines aren't well supported, what specific used machines do<br>
people recommend?<br>
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How about a suggestion as to where to buy other than Amazon, Micro<br>
Center, or Newegg? I've used them before, but maybe I'm overlooking a<br>
better place. I'd love to find a place that I could walk into, and<br>
plug in my FreeBSD USB stick to test the hardware, but online is OK.<br>
The places I've gone to lock the machines down, and won't let you boot<br>
your own OS.<br>
<br>
Other than ebay and Craig's List, where are good places to find used<br>
machines in good condition?<br>
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So does anyone have any suggestions for a good daily laptop running<br>
FreeBSD? <br>
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-- <br>
Brian Reynolds -- <a href="mailto:reynolds@panix.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">reynolds@panix.com</a><br>
"Long ago, it was the way of my people to travel to the Moon. My people<br>
travelled to the Moon in a ship called 'Apollo.' I tell the story of Apollo<br>
in the hope that some day, my people will again travel to the Moon." P. Alway<br>
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