[nycbug-talk] U.S surrenders ICANN control

[Evgueni Tzvetanov]

Dude! Stick to BSD. You suck in politics!
I don't know how good you are in BSD either!

--- Marc Spitzer <mspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/29/06, George R. <george at sddi.net> wrote:
> > Marc Spitzer wrote:
> > > On 7/27/06, Jonathan Vanasco
> <nycbug-list at 2xlp.com> wrote:
> > >> i'd argue that the us doesn't have free speech
> anymore either.  the
> > >> difference between other countries and the us
> is that overseas speech
> > >> is censored / illegal from the outself, while
> in america speech is
> > >> 'free' in theory and the price of a good lawyer
> in practice.
> > >
> > > It has always been that way, the social
> restraints are what are
> > > comming undone.  People did not want their names
> assocated with a
> > > court case.  Also vilonece was also more common
> to settle the mater.
> > >
> > >> i'm pretty sure that there's never been an
> actually effective
> > >> international body.  at best the new group can
> be as functional as
> > >> the UN-- which means at best, they'll
> accomplish absolutely nothing.
> > >
> > > The UN(spit) has never had the good grace to do
> nothing, it would be a
> > > major improvement over what they do.  They are
> not stupid they are
> > > fucking evil.
> >
> > Woah tiger. . . keep that tone on your Slashdot
> posts. .. not here.
> 
> I was being restrained, turtle bay is a curse upon
> the earth.
> 
> If people in blue helmets show up to protect you,
> run for your life.
> UN peace keepers have the dubious honer of being
> responsible for
> collecting oppressed minorities so they can be
> killed easier.
> Engaging in child prostitution and pornography
> rings.  And in two
> cases the need to be medically evacuated for damage
> to there members
> after trying to have oral sex with a goat.  How
> stupid do you have to
> be not to realize there are teeth on that end and
> the goat is not gona
> be happy with the situation.
> 
> I could go on and on on the subject, oil for food,
> the tysume a few
> years ago, China, Cuba Syria on the high commission
> of human rights.
> 
> 
> >
> > The ultimate problem is who is neutral.  Certainly
> not the US government
> > or private industry.  I dred the day when the root
> servers that are in
> > the US blacklist TLDs based on executive orders. 
> Even our
> > intellectually numb president is aware of the
> internet and the role it
> > plays.
> 
> While George Bush was and is not my first choice for
> the job either,
> he was much better the the other choice.  I do not
> remember, in 20
> years of voting, voting *for* a candadate for
> federal office.  I
> generally vote against the other guy.
> 
> >
> > Is the UN in a better, more neutral position? 
> That is highly doubtful.
> >  The UN has always been a battleground of super
> and regional powers. . .
> > But that's another OT discussion.
> 
> No the issue is that the US paid for the internet
> and if you do not
> like it go build your own.
> 
> >
> > It would be wonderful if there was some truly
> neutral, non governmental,
> > vendor-neutral solution to this. . . But the
> reality of the IETF just
> > makes that laughable.
> 
> we can agree to disagree on that.
> 
> >
> > shrug. . .
> >
> > Maybe NYCBUG could volunteer. . . ;-)
> 
> always be careful of what you ask as soneone may
> give it to you.
> 
> marc
> ----
> "We trained very hard, but it seemed that every time
> we were beginning to
> form into teams we would be reorganized. I was to
> learn later in life that
> we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing,
> and a wonderful method it
> can be for creating the illusion of progress, while
> producing confusion,
> inefficiency and demoralization."
> -Gaius Petronius, 1st Century AD
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