[nycbug-talk] U.S surrenders ICANN control

[Brad Schonhorst]

This thread has gotten way off topic.  If you would like to continue
the conversation please take it off the talk list.

NYCBUG Email List Guidelines:
http://nycbug.org/index.php?NAV=MailingLists

Thanks!

On 7/31/06, Evgueni Tzvetanov <attroppa at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dude! Stick to BSD. You suck in politics!
> I don't know how good you are in BSD either!
>
> --- Marc Spitzer <mspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 7/29/06, George R. <george at sddi.net> wrote:
> > > Marc Spitzer wrote:
> > > > On 7/27/06, Jonathan Vanasco
> > <nycbug-list at 2xlp.com> wrote:
> > > >> i'd argue that the us doesn't have free speech
> > anymore either.  the
> > > >> difference between other countries and the us
> > is that overseas speech
> > > >> is censored / illegal from the outself, while
> > in america speech is
> > > >> 'free' in theory and the price of a good lawyer
> > in practice.
> > > >
> > > > It has always been that way, the social
> > restraints are what are
> > > > comming undone.  People did not want their names
> > assocated with a
> > > > court case.  Also vilonece was also more common
> > to settle the mater.
> > > >
> > > >> i'm pretty sure that there's never been an
> > actually effective
> > > >> international body.  at best the new group can
> > be as functional as
> > > >> the UN-- which means at best, they'll
> > accomplish absolutely nothing.
> > > >
> > > > The UN(spit) has never had the good grace to do
> > nothing, it would be a
> > > > major improvement over what they do.  They are
> > not stupid they are
> > > > fucking evil.
> > >
> > > Woah tiger. . . keep that tone on your Slashdot
> > posts. .. not here.
> >
> > I was being restrained, turtle bay is a curse upon
> > the earth.
> >
> > If people in blue helmets show up to protect you,
> > run for your life.
> > UN peace keepers have the dubious honer of being
> > responsible for
> > collecting oppressed minorities so they can be
> > killed easier.
> > Engaging in child prostitution and pornography
> > rings.  And in two
> > cases the need to be medically evacuated for damage
> > to there members
> > after trying to have oral sex with a goat.  How
> > stupid do you have to
> > be not to realize there are teeth on that end and
> > the goat is not gona
> > be happy with the situation.
> >
> > I could go on and on on the subject, oil for food,
> > the tysume a few
> > years ago, China, Cuba Syria on the high commission
> > of human rights.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The ultimate problem is who is neutral.  Certainly
> > not the US government
> > > or private industry.  I dred the day when the root
> > servers that are in
> > > the US blacklist TLDs based on executive orders.
> > Even our
> > > intellectually numb president is aware of the
> > internet and the role it
> > > plays.
> >
> > While George Bush was and is not my first choice for
> > the job either,
> > he was much better the the other choice.  I do not
> > remember, in 20
> > years of voting, voting *for* a candadate for
> > federal office.  I
> > generally vote against the other guy.
> >
> > >
> > > Is the UN in a better, more neutral position?
> > That is highly doubtful.
> > >  The UN has always been a battleground of super
> > and regional powers. . .
> > > But that's another OT discussion.
> >
> > No the issue is that the US paid for the internet
> > and if you do not
> > like it go build your own.
> >
> > >
> > > It would be wonderful if there was some truly
> > neutral, non governmental,
> > > vendor-neutral solution to this. . . But the
> > reality of the IETF just
> > > makes that laughable.
> >
> > we can agree to disagree on that.
> >
> > >
> > > shrug. . .
> > >
> > > Maybe NYCBUG could volunteer. . . ;-)
> >
> > always be careful of what you ask as soneone may
> > give it to you.
> >
> > marc
> > ----
> > "We trained very hard, but it seemed that every time
> > we were beginning to
> > form into teams we would be reorganized. I was to
> > learn later in life that
> > we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing,
> > and a wonderful method it
> > can be for creating the illusion of progress, while
> > producing confusion,
> > inefficiency and demoralization."
> > -Gaius Petronius, 1st Century AD
> > _______________________________________________
> > % NYC*BUG talk mailing list
> > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> > %Be sure to check out our Jobs and NYCBUG-announce
> > lists
> > %We meet the first Wednesday of the month
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
> _______________________________________________
> % NYC*BUG talk mailing list
> http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> %Be sure to check out our Jobs and NYCBUG-announce lists
> %We meet the first Wednesday of the month
>