[Semibug] Install webstore on OpenBSD Server

[BCLUG]

Steve Litt wrote on 2023-07-28 17:42:

> BCLUG said on Thu, 27 Jul 2023 17:05:58 -0700
> 
>>> Jonathan Drews wrote on 2023-07-27 16:22:
 >>>
 >>> The whole Hypervisor/Virtual Machine cincept is just crazy.
 >>>
 >>> [...]
>>>
>>> Virtual Machines are like many of the pointless technologies
>>> embraced by Linux.
 >>
>> Once again, you've missed the point and fail to see any scenario larger
>> than "me and a couple friends sharing a computer for insignificant
>> purposes".
 >>
 >
> There's a HUGE distance between "me and a couple friends sharing a
> computer for insignificant purposes" and the huge swaths of computer
> users and the "thousands to millions of users who require 99.999%
> uptime" you referred to in another reply.

After listening to 156 episodes of 2.5 Admins podcast 
(https://2.5admins.com/), featuring Allen Jude (FreeBSD, ZFS, and Jim 
Salter (former contributor to ArsTechnica.com, it seems they are 
frequent users of VMs for most any server / service they spin up.

But they can speak for themselves on the topic.


Do you have any issues with the advice I gave on self-hosting a web 
store?  Refresher: no mention of a VM...



> From what I see, the original
> poster just wants to operate a web store.

Then why the rant about "Virtual Machines are like many of the pointless 
technologies embraced by Linux" and "The whole Hypervisor/Virtual 
Machine cincept [sic] is just crazy"?

Just don't use VMs.

No one suggested using a VM for a self-hosted store.



> The fact that he's buying a
> $100 host tells me he's not getting huge traffic,
 > [...]
> If and when he gets to that point, he'll need to, and be in a position
> to, outsource to extremely talented people. But until then, he doesn't
> need scalability:


As I said in, I believe, my first reply, paraphrasing, "Don't use the 
features you don't want to use" (in relation to Shopify).

Applies to VMs too.




I was too busy to attend the full TrueNAS presentation, did anyone tell 
Chris Peredun (iXsystems) that they're doing it all wrong, what with 
those VMs and systemd and other "pointless technologies embraced by 
Linux" on TrueNAS Scale™?